Do we agree with them? Do we agree that George Floyd was a 'gentle giant', an angel? Just to be clear, the copper deserves locking up because his behaviour was brutal and unacceptable but what on Earth has it got to do with middle class students from Surrey? As for desecrating the Cenotaph, I just wish 1 Para Support Company (circa 1972) had have been present.

Good point Mr I. We all know that the copper who killed George Floyd knew what he was doing in that there was a good chance he could kill the arrested person. He should have the book thrown at him first degree and his mates who stood by and should have pulled him off must be punished as well. Yes, we know there is institutionalised racism in some American police forces but looting innocent peoples shops and businesses including I read somewhere "black" peoples' as well. When ever there is a peaceful protest including over here its fueled up by anarchists, those who hate the current regime, and as for desecrating war memorials the lads I served with back in 1971 wouldn't have taken too kindly to it either. The damage that police officer has done is incaculable. Would nice words from Trump have stopped the violence?

Probably shot down here by somebody for saying this but was George Floyd arrested for? And did "he come quietly" to protest his innocence? Only asking.

Equality amongst the human race has as much to do with the middle class people in Surrey as anyone else on this planet. The institutional racism which is prevalent in every facet of popular culture today needs to be deconstructed. You may be oblivious due to your privilige which you did nothing to earn other than being white.

I, and I hope everyone on here, stand by those protesting in America and across the world as the fight for equal rights is of the upmost important to society.

It doesn't matter what he was arrested for, or if "he came quietly", He did not deserve to be murdered in cold blood.

I wrote something last night very sweary, accusatory and nowhere near as eloquent as you've managed before ultimately deciding not to post it.

I'm glad I didnt and even more so that you did.

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Spot on ! This is why I believe in Socialism. Until you have a fairer , more equal society then these sort of things will continue to happen. As long as people are badly educated then these things will continue to happen.The truth is Black Lives don't matter , a lot of white people in America don't like niggers , just as a lot of people in this country don't like Germans , Pakis , Japs or Polish immigrants . quite understandable given our empirical past , where quite a few of the current Conservative party probably have ancestry who made money out of slavery , which back in the 1700s was the equivalent to holding stocks and shares today. Black lives don't matter to these people , as neither do the lives of white underclass or Mexicans in the US and Romanian immigrants in the UK , luckily for them though they are white , and if you do as you are expected to do , you should avoid getting murdered by the police or wrongly imprisoned.

Black lives don't matter , have we sorted out Grenfell yet?. Ethiopia is in the grip of a Cholera. Diphtheria, Yellow Fever epidemic, did anyone know that? has anyone offered help? do we even care?. I watched Question Time last night , obviously they were talking about current events in the US and George Floyd . I remember them talking about similar things in 1980 , 2000 , has anything changed? has it hell. They will be talking about the same thing on QT in 2040.

Black lives should matter , as should any life , but in reality it isn't the case , and as the luckiest white people on earth , those lucky enough to be born in the UK, where someone on an average wage enjoys a standard of living comparable with a doctor in Somalia. We are all complicit in this by our inaction. In fact it shames me that in many cases it is the middle class taking to the streets. Whatever happened to the working class in the UK and US? well that's another story.

I think we all know why Mr I post on this and Madeleine have appeared. And just showing what this place has become and the people running the asylum

I and most,absolutely do support the protesting across the world. I don’t however,support the stealing from shops and violence which is happening on a massive scale especially in the states. Also not overly impressed that I’ve spent the last 3 months following the rules with social distancing not being able to see family or friends or go to work when thousands are gathered side by side in hyde park.

I and most,absolutely do support the protesting across the world. I don’t however,support the stealing from shops and violence which is happening on a massive scale especially in the states. Also not overly impressed that I’ve spent the last 3 months following the rules with social distancing not being able to see family or friends or go to work when thousands are gathered side by side in hyde park.[/quote]


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they actually might actually be working just to put food on their tables. its back to the question once again of seeing peoples colour before anything else. there are bad folk among all races and racialism does not stop with whites. on top of racialism you have a bigger problem called religeon. protestant v catholic, hindu v sikh v muslim. its not as if all BAME groups get on with each other in a combined effort to tackle racism. the more protests that do go on i can see more recruitments and not less for all parties that use racism as their core belief. only a worldwide action to see our fellow man as an EQUAL man can ever solve the question.

I just don’t condone violence of any sort. The copper will hopefully get the book thrown at him as will the others on duty who stood by and watched. Changes are needed worldwide but more so in the states than probably anywhere else in the world and I think the majority agree. Protests are a start but like I said they don’t need to be violent. I just don’t support violence on any side of any argument

Everybody has a right to protest. Looting, wilful burning of other people's property and desecrating national monuments dedicated to our ancestors who gave their lives so we could have the freedom to protest is definitely a no no.
No right minded person could even begin to defend the treatment meted out by the Police of Minneapolis to George Floyd or any other citizen of that city. Their behaviour in the so called carrying out of their duty was and is disgraceful.
For over 300 hundred years the US have failed to address this issue and, like the gunlaws, I don't think there is the political will to address it.
Why would four police officers carry out their "procedure" boldly and blatantly in the manner that they did??? The only answer I can think of is that they thought they would be exonerated. And that is the heart of the problem. All four should pay the highest penalty available in law and no less than that, no watering down or lame excuses. That's what should happen but I won't hold my breath.

As always, the lefties ignore what I said and attribute words that I didn’t say.

fishy fishy fishy

True. An Indian bloke driving an Uber taxi in London was asked why he did it? we have all heard of how bad Uber treats its employees and how ruthless its business model is. He replied " It is shit , but before this I used to work in kitchens and waiting jobs , I didn't have the money to pay for a Black Cab licence and wouldn't of passed the test anyway. Working in a kitchen was hard , and you got spoken to as though you were a piece of shit , and the pay wasn't good either. At Uber the work is hard , I work 60-80 hours a week , but I can work and go home (within reason ) when I want to and I don't have a horrible nasty piece of work Chef barking orders at me.

Similarly a Romanian working in an Amazon warehouse , said "I was a nobody in Romania and I couldn't afford to eat. I am a nobody here ( UK ) but I can earn £240 a week and put food on the table , that is why I am here.

This is what our young people are up against in the jobs market , this is the exploitation and racism that exists in Britain, the EU and the world today. And when things are tough those at the bottom turn on each other , just how the rich like it.

How do you defend young fat black women punching a white disabled women in an electric chair in the head and a male setting off a fire extinguisher at her outside an oap home?

The video I imagine your on about was taken at the entrance of a Target store (if I'm wrong please share the source) which was being looted by people of all races, which you can clearly see if you've watched it, you can also see she let's a white woman leave the store with bags of goodies in hand only to try and stop a black woman from leaving with a trolley load, hmmmm strange, the disabled white woman (who was also featured on another video walking, so certainly has some use of their legs, still could be disabled though) was caught on video, with a knife, slashing and attempting to stab at the looters, I'd say she got off lightly with a couple of punches to the head and a blast of the fire extinguisher to the face.

But you know, don't let facts get in the way of a bigoted story.

frankie 1966 wrote: "It doesen't matter what he was arrested for, or if "he came quietly", He didn't deserve to be murdered in cold blood."

and Mr Irrelevant wrote: "As always, the lefties ignore what i said and attribute words that I didn't say."

Frankie 1966 I suggest you actually read what I said and not just pluck out the "he came quietly" bit. You will see I in no way condoned what happened to him. The cop who did this knew full well what might happen by his actions and his mates were culpable as well. I stated this quite clearly. I happen to throw in a suggestion that maybe the the victim was not quite as innocent at many people seem to have forgotten about in their condemnation of racism. I saw something on FB this am where somebody asked where was all the condemnation of the murder of Lee Rigby by a "black" man?

And as for Mr Irrelevant's comments. I sympathise with him and his complaint of what he did or didn't say and not for the first time on here I might add.

When you see looting in America, which is the predominate race?, yes there may have been the odd white person but keep the perspective!
I do not condone anyone looting and despite several muppets on here keeping the racist card going, due to my one liners, I am not a racist and what happened to Mr Floyd was disgusting and upsetting.

Did I say that or are you just picking out the bit you want people to focus on?
The TV clips I have seen have been 90% black people running away with shoe boxes etc and there were others that looked like trailer park residents also.
What is the term for trailer trash or is that white racism?

Phil clearly has negative vision specs on because almost all the looting I’ve seen on TV has been by niggers. But then tv cameras are obviously racist too. In empathy with him I want to deny that George Floyd wasn’t an armed robber who held up a pregnant woman while burglar OMG her house. Oh no siree, that didn’t happen.

Didnt deserve to die with a pigs knee on his neck though.

I did say that in my first post.

Film footage is taken over an extended period of time and it depends on where the camera man points the camera or how the film was edited prior to transmission on TV.
On the other side of the street there could of being a gang of white or Hispanics looting too............i just dont know.
I never totally believe what i see when its only a snapshot in any situation.
What i saw was horrendous and the book needs to be thrown at these cops.

Monkey by referring police officers as pigs you lose all my respect it is just the same as people using the n word.

In this case, he was a pig!

Your tone was to me that it referred to police officers. Every body knows what the police officer deserves and he will get it in prison.

It looks like the people gathering in their thousands at mass protest gatherings don't mind putting others at risk of death, as well as themselves.
They are also risking the NHS being swamped, a return to lockdown and the question needs to be asked why should anybody work their socks off to keep people safe when potentially mass murderers roam the streets unchecked. When the key workers who are keeping us safe, keeping us fed and keeping us moving see the scenes being witnessed today across the country and indeed across the World, what are they expected to think.
We are taking a big risk with this behaviour. So what happens next??? Do we just give in, open everything up and take whatever the virus throws at us.
Already the people who we rely heavily on are asking what is the point? Can we blame them for asking that. The people who have fought day and night to save lives and who we have clapped every Thursday night for ten weeks are virtually having two fingers stuck up at them.
There is a time and place for protest gatherings to take place but definitely not in the middle of a World wide pandemic and certainly not in Piccadilly Gardens in Manchester where an estimated gathering of FIFTEEN THOUSAND people congregated today in such a small place.
Total lack of responsibilty.

Remember hearing that the Police refer to Firefighters as "water fairies"

And not a word of criticism from the hypocritical media or the leftwaffe after their hysterics over Domimic Cummings. Same goes for Barry Gardner.

An absolute sickener, for every keyworker, and the majority of people who have done the right thing to protect every one else.

When the deaths start to rise again, they can't blame the government..can they???? Sickener

Its madness just like the kids going back to school for 6 weeks of babysitting.
Glad to see the government has now reverted to "stay at home as much as possible" with "stay alert" moving down the list. But the government and press have been putting out too many mixed messages.People are getting frustrated, confused and are looking for loopholes/excuses.
If there is a second spike (apart for the obvious risk to human life and NHS) the government wont forever keep in place all the financial support to people and businesses.
Mass unemployment and destitution here we come.

They'll blame everyone but themselves.

They'll blame everyone but themselves.

Very convenient for the tories and or racists to use the protesters as a detraction

"Remember hearing that the Police refer to Firefighters as "water fairies"

So do the NHS and Ambulance Service...............at least around these parts, partly due I belive as to when there is a serious incident the Police, Ambulance, Doctors and Nurses been, done their stuff and gone and by the time the TV cameras arrive there is usually only a firemean left hosing something down.........hence the water fairy tag, or so I am told.

what the police officer did was disgusting and was hard to watch but at what point did it become about race i never heard anything racist been said to him, would there have been as much protests if it was aasain person or a white person been knelt on

Get to fuck, it’s not the same at all


Mr I. Delete me, I don’t want to be associated with this racist board anymore.

I’ve not posted much recently because of the shit that’s been going on but the fact you allow this to stay tells me everything I need to know.

If you want to leave then just leave.

Prefer the flounce. Delete me and my posts.

See ya

What happened to all the posts objecting to the racism? Derwent's meltdown where he starts shouting ALL lives matter and calling me an anti-semite has also gone. Not to mention Verbalkint's rage at being called a racist when he started a thread calling Anthony Joshua a racist. If I remember rightly he offered Mr B out and wanted to show his testicles to someone's face. I'm looking forward to seeing how gets on in his "chat" with Joshua. And, of course, Mr B's repeated polite requests to have his account deleted that were responded to with taunts have gone.

Is the new rule that whichever reactionary loon that is still a moderator can just delete anything embarrassing? If so you should have a trawl back and delete Derwent's determined refusals to condemn racism and Monkeybutt's general perviness and dog noncing. Would make the place seem more civil.

load of bollocks. the database was uploaded at the last backup point of 11pm on 6/6. You can be as conspiracy theorist as you like but that's the fact of the matter.

Obviously I've got no reason at all to disbelieve you. Still, you must have been pleased to see that it got rid of the racism, threats, unpleasant taunting of people who asked to have their accounts deleted, and deranged ranting from your favourite pet moderator.

Seriously it never crossed my mind. I was more concerned with fixing the purposely done database corruption.

I'm sure, but it is a happy old coincidence that all that embarrassing shite like a moderator taunting MrB when he asked to have his account deleted disappeared too. And the same moderator defending obvious implied threats when a bloke who started a thread specially to call a black man a racist went mad because he was called a racist.

Lots of nasty stuff so it's good to see that whoever did the techy thing that I wouldn't understand did everyone a favour.

It is unquestionable that what Joshua said was racist. If I had said don't buy from shops owned by niggers, would that have been ok too?