I can’t help thinking the council is right on this one and the government should not have issued an across the board opening timetable given the varying stages of the virus in different parts of the country.

Agree entirely local decisions are needed as the R rate here is different to elsewhere. The government (any)has really get to grip of its London centric view of the country.
Councils/regions should be encouraged to make their own decisions only if they take a more cautious option only.

And what would you learn in 6/7 weeks skooling your 5 times table and that Salisbury is the capital of Rhodesia?
It's just a waste of time and effort.

I'm in agreement with schools remaining closed in the North East. Children do seem to be carriers although their symptoms appear to be less severe than adults. IMHO too much chance of spreading it to each other then infecting others. In this day and age I'd hazard a guess the majority of children can learn online. Whether their parents guide them in this direction is questionable. Still too many unanswered questions re Covid 19, still a chance of a 2nd Wave and unfortunately too many numpties still thinking they're invincible. I'm for keeping Lockdown as it is for a while.

[quote="Bluestreak"]Agree entirely local decisions are needed as the R rate here is different to elsewhere. The government (any)has really get to grip of its London centric view of the country.

yes, london bloody london and sweet fa else. just wonder if other countries just concentrate on their capital cities and the area around them like we do. another grant for transport for london due to its operational losses. mind you it has transport where the residents only moan about it.

Typical of all this governments policies since 2010. Bollocks to the rest of the country

Point of order Mr Chairman.
After a General Election in December 2019, Her Majesty The Queen asked Boris Johnson to form a Government, which he duly did. This government is not responsible for any policies before then. They can only be held to account on policies since 2019. In 2010 the Tories and Lib Dems formed a coalition government, in 2015 the Tories formed a government on their own, in 2017 the Tories formed a minority government backed by the DUP and in 2019, as previously stated, this new government was formed consisting of Tories on their own.

so does that comment actually makes RAY52 comment valid or not. i knew what he meant and i imagine others did also.

Neither Boris Johnson or Rishi Sunak were even MPs in 2010 never mind making policies.
It depends on the degree of accuracy you want. The government of 2010 had Cameron and Osborne in those positions. It wasn't even a one party government. There are more examples if you want to do the research.
By all means criticise the government but you can hardly blame anyone who wasn't involved, or is that your idea of fair play. A government lasts for the maximum of five years and then a new one is formed. How hard is that to understand.

I blame Harold Wilson for Labour losing the last election.

Exactly.
I blame Corbyn for Blair and Brown's policies.
I also blame Brian Clough for allowing Coxhall to grab hold of the club. Yes I know Cloughie was no longer alive but what's that got to do with it.

Ok, lets just say the COMMON DENOMINATOR then is the Tory Party!!! END OF!!!!

No need to shout old boy.

What for? Shouting!

No reason for him to be banned whatsoever. He made his point in a perfectly acceptable way without resorting to abuse.

Bigger spoon on its way to you via Amazon.

Even if the government use bullying tactics on the likes of Hartlepool Council to comply i just hope the parents do the right thing and not send the kids. Teachers could be difficult to thwart this madness.
All of this for 7 weeks of baby sitting.

Depends what you shout.

Boris is a drunk does that count?

Where is the PM ?

Went through Seaton this afternoon. Promenade busy, parking spaces from the Staincliffe to the golf club full, children playing and running on green areas and beach even the ice cream van parked up and busy. Of course there was the usual line of customers at Don Bees and where were they eating them, on the benches around the bus station. Better get the teachers union down there to sort them out.

If common sense is being used then people can do all sorts of things safely. Its not difficult to understand how the virus spreads and how to prevent that.

Not much you can do in a cramped classroom with 15 strangers kids sneezing all over you though.

He's out looking for the shadow education secretary. Any idea where she is???

I think people should keep their kids off school until the PM does a full weeks work

so you want schools to shut down permanently then horden.

Not really , but I see what you are getting at. It could quite well come to that if it depends on Johnson putting a full week in.

just wonder if johnson will officially go part time next season as full time does not seem to suit him. if that does not work then a luke williams type contract may be his way forward.

He's the manager. He's got a fantastically strong team. He relies on his team to secure the points, which they do regularly. Not only that but shortly after his appointment he completely obliterated the management team of the main opposition. He has amassed a formidable team of experts, including J Harries who he persuaded to join his strike force.
These guys are going places.

I fucking hate this obnoxious Tory excuse for a government more than anyone can know, I am totally opposed to Brexit which is primarily the reason why these losers were returned to power with a fucking increased majority. However I am 100% behind the drive to get the kids back to school and the parents back to work as soon as is practically possible. There is not going to be a vaccine available for months, if ever but we desperately need to get the country moving again. Yes there will be associated risks and no-one can guarantee that there won’t be further cases/deaths but there will be anyway, CV or not for a multitude of reasons. Anyone who is not happy with the situation should continue to stay at home/shield whatever and allow the rest of us to take risks on there behalf. Rant over.

They cant stay at home. Teachers have got to go in even if they are a vulnerable person or have a VP at home.

after reading all these posts it does surprise me that some think the council has more idea than even this government. who are the councils experts and scientific advisors on the subject. if any council no matter where in the country says one thing then thats a good reason to do the opposite. just leave it to the teachers unions to decide. its their responsibility at the end of the day and no one elses.

Just out of interest I have just learnt that Rossmere school will be opening in June. The governers are happy, the head teacher is happy and the teachers are happy. They will phase the children in gradually. They have of course been open for vulnerable children and children of key workers .

All schools in hartlepool will probably open in june, just not june 1st.

I've just come back from an evening stroll round Sedgefield and there were 8 cars parked at the club house of the Cricket and Rugby Club, which is set back about 150 yards from the main road. Last week it was 4, but they're obviously getting braver. Including people who walked there'll be 20-25 people inside, no doubt having a nice civilised drink among friends. Thought about ringing the police but what's the point? There's probably a JP or two in there.

Fens school are letting the parents decide if they want to send their kids back or not before the summer holidays and once everything is in place, it's initially for those in year 1, year 6 and reception

Sounds sensible.

[quote="phil"]

The council's are making decisions with a better knowledge of the local context and local resources. I'd back them to make decisions to protect local people over the government.

unless there is something different happening in hartlepool i cannot see the difference to hartlepool and any other coastal industrial town in the country of a similar size. this government may not be to everyones taste but for me i,d even prefer this one to organise my life than some local shopkeeper to do so.

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