Raj finally speaks , reads to me like he wants out

https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... er-2854839

I imagine most lower league club chairman feel the same and feel like they are pouring money into a bottomless hole. i dont envy them but any prospective buyer might get a bargain. Its a good time to buy.

its not the money thats the issue for many but trust where it goes. trust and football clubs do not go hand in hand i,m afraid. trust between the club and fans has been completely tarnished over the years and however genuine or not raj is the hardest thing he,d get back is fans trust in the club. for me i am just one big lie and false dawn away from packing the whole pools and then football in general up.

Yes cant say i have missed it that much and certainly not the premier league. I am happy to watch more grass roots football at levels below us if that became necessary but will continue to support pools wherever.

Singhs naivety shows through when he says he didn't expect the losses to be so great. If only he had asked . The problem with HUFC is they are not being run properly , and haven't been for most of their history , bar the IOR years , clubs that are , are even losing money, so its obvious clubs that aren't will lose money. Harry Kane was modelling Orients new strip the other day, what are we doing to raise revenue? What are we doing to raise supporters morale even ? Singh talks about the play offs , why not automatic promotion?

if anyone wanted instant success they,d give pools a swerve anyway from its begining. with each generation coming up it must be harder and harder for kids to come down to the vic. the only plus points are that other local league sides are not exactly success stories at the moment. if pools were closer to manchester or liverpool i really doubt they still exist after the past ownerships. parents must be having a real fight on their hands to keep their kids interest in pools and i really wonder if the club realizes this. when my lad was growing up i did everything in my power to get him away from the premier league and i succeeded. problem was that pools were not an option as we lived in rugby at the time.

The marketing of pools has been a big disappointment recently and the demise of the media department feels like the club has disconnected with the fans which might be seen in the future as a false economy.

just another, and a bad one, of mistakes pools seem to enjoy making. its as if they go out of their way just to annoy fans and give us more reasons not to go than to do go.

Getting rid of Mark Simpson was a big mistake.

Isn’t that a rehash of his interview a couple of weeks ago?

Or a rehash of interviews from 9 years ago.

Some truth there Mr Star. It does have the sense that a number of chickens are returning home. In the current environment I can’t see RS having a lot of spare cash about and any that he does have will be going into his core businesses. That means that unless there is a fair bit of alternative funding coming, we’re screwed. I don’t expect administration for Pools in the next six months but I wouldn’t be shocked either.

To be honest if we really are over £3m in the hole the. It wouldn’t be the worst outcome.

We have low overheads, 18k a year rent plus utilities then it’s simply a case of living within our means. With crowds of 3k we should surely be able to compete of we’re not paying excessive salaries or ridiculous amounts of money back to Sage.

if ever a club needs a cup run then its pools. no matter how well the club is doing in the league then i doubt they,ll get more than 4k attending non league home games on a regular basis. a cup run and even getting to a play off final or a final of the micky mouse trophy would give the club some good publicity in the area. could actually gain investment by this. the club themselves are certainly not going to sell themselves to the public.

if ever a club needs a cup run then its pools. no matter how well the club is doing in the league then i doubt they,ll get more than 4k attending non league home games on a regular basis. a cup run and even getting to a play off final or a final of the micky mouse trophy would give the club some good publicity in the area. could actually gain investment by this. the club themselves are certainly not going to sell themselves to the public.

HUFC have generally poo - poo cup competitions , fielding weakened sides etc , in order to concentrate on promotion , that usually results in neither a cup run or promotion or even play offs

Another example of how the club has been badly run over the years.

We had a decent cup run which gave us over 130k, what happened to that?

Don’t forget who gets the unbudgeted revenue.

When did Pools play a weaken side in a cup game?

durham orphanage cup 1927/8.

Well Horden says otherwise he also says club is being badly run but doesn’t say how..

I have said numerous times on here over the years how I think the club is badly run and even put forward ideas to improve things , some of which IOR took on board. I cant be arsed to go over specific details yet it again. I would think though its quite obvious with Raj having to put his own money in and staff being laid off , its not being run very well.

If Raj or Maguire want to hear what I have to say I am quite happy to discuss it with them , but not people I don't know , hiding behind a pseudonym on a message board .

So is your name Horden? Staff have been paid off in practically every walk off life during the present climate and difficult and sometimes ruthless decisions have to be made. Raj is a self made business man with a few bob in the bank and thankfully for us has kept us alive. I have no doubt he will be ruthless sacking (and rightly so imo) his good friend Hignett showed us that. Don’t forget Jeff Stelling put a substantial amount into the club so do you not think he would have looked closely at Raj before doing so.
Fact is Raj May be well off but he is not a bottom less pit.

And your point is?

I thought you were going to tell me how the club could be better ran , rather than telling me something I already knew.

Raj has kept us alive , but on the equivalent of a life support machine , and life support machines inevitably at some point get switched off.

It was you who said the club could be better run not me. So you say how. Anyway you still have not said when Pools played weak sides in cup ties I certainly can not and Accrington fan has a better memory than me.

Harrogate last season in FA Trophy. We even pulled out of the Durham Challenge Cup.

I will say though we are not as bad as we used to be at fielding weakened teams , probably because its difficult for a weak team to be weakened even further. The rhetoric in the weeks leading up to cup games over the years , suggests they can take a run in the cup or leave it, that I don't agree with , never have, never will.

It was good we made it to the 3rd round last season for a change , typical of our luck we got a shite draw , though the way clubs are treating cups these days, good draws are now few and far between.

To be fair the Durham FA kicked us out as they wanted wholly unrealistic fixture dates.

You scraped the barrel there Horden. Harrogate was virtual full team but let down badly by Dimi. Can you dig upany others?The Durham Challenge Cup I believe has rules regarding first team payers. You still not saying what changes you would make to the running of the club.

Hmmmmm

And he's 100% correct. Don't see how anyone could disagree with that sentiment?

Sorry for the people made redundant but this Fund is supposed to be to help the manager attract players. Darlington have done very well in giving their manager a helping hand. To date I have not given anything.

People literally, literally, fucking arguing with Barron on twitter. Forgetting two promotions, over 10 years and over 300 appearances just to accuse him of stirring shit because he cares about people who've lost their jobs.

Depressing.

£30k won't go far to cover the cost of cold compresses, herbal poultices, leeches and snake oil for Lukes break through season.

Emagine being so stupid you accuse the clubs most successful ever captain of having an agenda becos he wants staff to get paid what they are owed.

It’s ok he was only hassled from fake accounts and a Sunderland fan anyway.

Carnt see the people in charge at pools will be happy that fans linked to the budget booster are using it to hassle mark Simpson n Micky Barron on Twitter.

PR nightmare.

But then again if mcguire chooses to align himself to people as nasty as this what do you expect.

Mickey Barron has pointed out the exact same thing I did and he is correct in doing so. Why haven’t the club paid people off they have let go in full? Will this money just be for buying new players or just to prop up the running costs? If it’s the latter it’s great people want to help as we are down match day money but it’s very worrying.

The club should release a statement answering these questions and remove all doubt. The people doing this want best for club like us all but it’s worrying that the club would need this if it’s the latter or is it just a gesture of good will from supporters?

other clubs have tried this over the years and the money just goes down the bottomless hole. there must be hundreds of used buckets for sale in bury for a start. if anyone actually wants to fund something relating to pools then one for a rainy day and possible setting up a pheonix club in the future would be more worthwhile.

The arguing with Barron is embarrassing like. People have different opinions, I get it. But for them to engage in a public spat wasn’t the right thing to do. Private message probably would have sufficed if anything


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Hackworth could start an argument in an empty room, opinions are like penises, we all have them but when you start waving them in peoples faces

Just my opinion , but any money raised would be better used replacing the seats in the Mill House Stand

He also does`t know the difference between telling tales and stating the obvious!

And the West Ham turnstiles

10% of fans donate 11k.

Was that rumour ever confirmed? I know parts of that stand were still in storage in Darlo up to a few years ago but it seems to have vanished.
Chances are if you did have them then they are long gone too.

only ever go in the mill house if i can get on the back row. did my back in a couple of years ago sitting further down then driving home in her indoors bloody range rover.

The seats ( if you can call them that ) are shite. At least by doing this , it would be improving comfort for fans, and leave a legacy in respect of decent seats , when the club eventually goes tits up and a phoenix club needs to be formed. Personally I would put every penny into improving the ground , as we are never going to achieve anything on the field in the short term.

Anyone know the total to date?

£11,700 after 1st week.

think history is on your side there. over 80 years in existence without being promoted says a lot.