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Ten workers dead, drivers ‘terrified to go to work’ with good reason, how many have caught the virus and passed it to someone else on the network? Surely a safer alternative can be found to get people to work?

being an ex bus driver i can understand their attitude. you might think your job is essential but not being shoved in the front line to do it. the problem is that more and more of us commute longer and longer distances to work than we used to do. too many businesses concentrating in large city centres. its when something like when the present situation comes up that you see the need for a change. at the moment there is not an alternative as someone has to pay for it.

Valid and good point about people travelling longer distances to work , but I would say concentrating work in city centres is a good thing, problem is you need to concentrate housing in the same city centres also , and that is something up until recently we as a country haven't been doing. In places where we have done it, the price of housing , especially for low paid workers leaves a lot to be desired. Another problem is locating places of work/shopping malls outside of town/city centres on business parks and retail parks adjacent to arterial roads, necessitating the use of cars, bad for environment , bad for the workers pocket. If these workplaces/ retail parks where located in town/city centres people could walk or cycle to work etc. An example in Hartlepool , the Queens meadow Business Park, when the Oakesway Trading estate is dying on its feet. The new hospital was going to be built at Wynyard rather than its present site,

As I have said before this virus has exposed the fragility and madness of rampant Capitalism.

when the traditional industries died out it seemed the end of people living a walking distance to work. most towns are like ring donuts with nothing but shops and businesses in the centers and housing outside.

14 London Transport drivers now dead.

And that’s just TFL there are others outside the capital.
The problem for drivers is the public are within 2 feet not metres of you paying and getting their ticket.
Handling the cash is the issue.
Buses are a little breeding ground when people are so close, seats are not 2 metres apart, we asked if the alternate seats could be blocked off, NO
Can we go cashless NO

Life is a bit worrying at the moment

This fuck bucket must be up there?

Why don’t antibiotics work??

https://twitter.com/tucker5law/status/1 ... 89281?s=21

Imagine if a country that thinks it's the land of the free voted that lunatic into power.

not surprised with their gun laws in place, love of rounders, american so called football, dressing up as animals and thinking jerry lewis was funny would vote for anyone like him.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-5 ... =CS8-1000-[Discovery_Cards]-[Multi_Site]-[SL03]-[PS_NEWS~C~~A_Googletrackingdata]

A bit much this like, understand we do need to lockdown but this is going into 1984 territory.

Churches and religion in general. If there is no sport on a saturday there is no bleedin church on a sunday even if its easter sunday. Get over it. I dont want half of the news being some bloody vicar telling us god is looking after us all.

If god was real surely he is to blame for this virus as well as all the stuff?

And that there in a nutshell is why religion is bollocks. Like them idiots in USA thanking the lord for saving a church in a natural disaster just ignoring all the town that’s been destroyed or people that have died

A bit like stupid films like the day after tomorrow. One man searches for his son and finds him. Ah a happy ending. Forgetting 90% of the world has perished.

do not forget the soldiers of WW1 of both sides. they were told that god is with you when they went over the top. at least other fairy tales had happy endings.

Andrew Denton: ‘When you see all these things, do you ever get a sense of God’s pattern?’

His Majesty David Attenborough: ‘Well, if you ask…about that, then you see remarkable things like that earwig and you also see all very beautiful things like hummingbirds, orchids, and so on. But you also ought to think of the other, less attractive things. You ought to think of tapeworms.

‘You ought to think of … well, think of a parasitic worm that lives only in the eyeballs of human beings, boring its way through them, in West Africa, for example, where it’s common, turning people blind.

‘So if you say, “I believe that God designed and created and brought into existence every single species that exists,” then you’ve also got to say, “Well, he, at some stage, decided to bring into existence a worm that’s going to turn people blind.” Now, I find that very difficult to reconcile with notions about a merciful God.'

was done when god was in lockdown.

I like david attenborough even more after reading that.

And still part of their headlines, the news channels are saying stuff like "Christians across the world are celebrating easter".

Celebrating? Holy mother of the baby jesus. What time to be celebrating.

The Creationists' counter argument is actually not that far from that. They say yeah but he omitted to say that all those nice things were created before The Fall.

I think Stephen fry said that not Attenborough

I don't usually like doing this but...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Gfa88SeNohY

When I hear people say "God works in mysterious ways" I always think Aye you can say that again.

and they,ll take that their prayers at this time will be the thing that makes the world recover from the virus. you cannot win with some of em as they have an answer for everything.

Be careful what you ask for:

Bishop Gerald Glenn, the pastor of New Deliverance Evangelistic Church in Virginia, has died, the church announced on Sunday. Glenn had tested positive for coronavirus, according to a video posted by his daughter Mar-Gerie Crawley.

Despite warnings from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to avoid mass gatherings and maintain social distancing, Glenn said in a sermon on March 22, "I firmly believe that God is larger than this dreaded virus," and announced he was not afraid to die.

This would seem to be the fella. Ticks all the same boxes as the Spanish fiasco.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/14/heal ... index.html

They're zealots. I've heard over there most Easter celebrations went ahead as usual, mainly because "The Chinese Virus" is a "democrat hoax". People protesting in Michigan today with rifles, only in America as they say.

Naga munchetty just added after a disgraceful interview with a labour MP doctor where she basically played devils advocate on behalf of the government pressing her to say what she whether she will refuse to work without PPE and then saying what do you expect the government to do as there is a world wide shortage.

She was basically egging her on to say I wilm refuse to work without the PPE so she could them claim that that was labour's position.

Disgusting.

Back to the original title, can I add Iceland to the Blacklist. Offensive text to staff about NHS staff shopping there (basically saying they were unclean and spreading the disease and suggesting if an NHS worker touched an item they HAD to buy it); and in the Metropolis yesterday the Manager threw an elderly couple out for not following the 1 person procedure, even though the wife had to help her husband. This has kicked off locally with calls for the Managers head to roll. ICELAND (the shop) aren't coming well out of this.

I still haven't forgave them for 2016, always did prefer the Faroe Islands.

I heard one time the Faroe's played a friendly with Wales...had to be forfeited, apparently throwing harpoons wasn't allowed

Where the World is Going by Helena Handbasket

How to post in the wrong thread by Simian Derrière

back to the blacklist. top would be anyone who suggests or implements the lowering of lockdown till its totally safe to do so. put people first for once and not big business.

They have started phasing out the quarantine here and will allow some further freedom next weekend.
But we will still have nowhere near the freedom of movement the UK already has in its lockdown.
And we're quite a bit further along the curve than the UK.

The two measures so far are
1. kids can now go for a 1/2 hour walk with their parents (3 children max)
2. from 2nd May adults will be able to go out for a half an hour alone or with the same household

In, both cases no farther than 1km from their homes.

Totally safe? And how long do you think that might be?

6 months? A year? Ever?

If a the lockdown isn't eased soonish, and I dont mean in the next two weeks, people will rebel. Millions of them. Its happening already. Just take a walk outside and see for yourself.

It's not just big business. Every local pub. Local restaurant. Corner shops. Small businesses like hairdressers, gardeners, local builders the list goes on.

Unless you are somehow going to prevent credit card firms and banks calling gin their debts ever. Can you do that?

And then there is everyones metal health. Affects millions already but that number will be going up massively. I am fine but even I am having moments of depression I have never felt before.

And what if the youngsters and their future short term and long?

There is a lot to take onto consideration.much more than people are prepared to discuss.

My wife works with vulnerable children of all ages and she is having to video call them now rather than visit and she is noticing a huge rise in their bad mental state. It's extremely worrying that this is being ignored. And that's just in one small area of the uk.

Surely no one thought this would be easy. Saving lives is the most important thing and the only thing that matters, People have to plough on regardless , even if it does mean a bit of civil unrest and some people who had mental health problems anyway, getting carted off by men in white coats. This government started 3 weeks after everyone else, as a result we will have to end the lockdown 3 months later than everyone else. Had they got it right from the start , we could've been starting to relax the lockdown as I speak. I don't suppose it will end in 3 months time , but it probably should , it will be a risk whenever we decide to relax/end it, because of the economy I believe the government will cave in to business pressure and ease/end it well before 3 months time, but talk of relaxing or ending it now or within next few weeks are a non starter IMO. We need to get on top of this testing and get down to something like 50-100 deaths a day at least. Compared to how people must've felt during WW1 &2 this lockdown is a walk in the park. We need to just hang on in there and give it another 4 weeks or so at least.

My first thought when this lockdown was announced was mentally ill and autistic children. It must be absolute torture for them and the parents. Middlesbrough's mayor won't even open parks, I know his heart is in the right place but for me that is too much (especially when some completely non essential workplaces are much more cramped). Single people with no kids are lucky in this scenario.



Very true Mr. Horden. No one knew how bad this would get, but the PM and the government consistently ignored experts advice every time. Well, it wasn't ignored intentionally, I think it had something to do with not attending the very meetings the advice was given in...

I was watching the news earlier and they were talking about the easing of Italy's lockdown. The measures they were talking about we can already do here. Things like get a takeaway, go outside for exercise etc. What surprised me was how this was then uncritically used to talk about how we can expect some restrictions to be lifted in a couple of weeks. If our lockdown was 'lockdown lite', is there really any scope to open up more?

it ist it does not suit their agenda at the moment. mind you if the general public at large behaved themselves a bit more it might help the government to ease lockdown somewhat. its fine if a lot push the bounderies of what you can do a bit but plenty are still taking the piss. give em an inch and they,ll take more than 2 metres. need some cold weather and rain as much as anything i,m afraid.

Accrington, for a couple of days now all your messages are being posted twice. I don't know why but could you be a mate and make sure you delete the duplicate to save me having to do it. Ta.

I'm expecting it to take a month for us to be allowed to do the things the UK has been doing ALL ALONG.
And fines begin at 120 euros here for the first infringement then escalate. A couple we know got one for shopping together instead of just one person. Another got turned back when he was heading for his choice of supermarket, which was too far from his home. And as I already said, we are much further along the curve than the UK.

The two major European countries with the mildest restrictions (UK) or least public cooperation (France) and incidentally also with the fewest tests are the ones looking worst off at the moment. France's de-escalation measures are bonkers given its situation.

Problem is Macron had a choice: relax the lockdown rules real soon or lose the next election.
Right now, many many people in France are exasperated with the government's incoherence on the handling of the Covid-19 crisis and don't respect lockdown rules anymore anyway: 'the average age of those who die from that virus is 80. Take care of the elderly and just leave us alone!' And people aren't even afraid of getting fined anymore because of a persistent rumour that some kind of 'lockdown-related fines amnesty' is likely to be granted in July, on Bastille Day.

That doesn't fit with what I'm seeing at all Pooliedor. There are certainly people worried about their livelihoods and angry about testing but I can't see any change in behaviour. Obviously only got a limited view based on where I am and what friends fairly nearby say.

That doesn't fit with what I'm seeing at all Pooliedor. There are certainly people worried about their livelihoods and angry about testing but I can't see any change in behaviour. Obviously only got a limited view based on where I am and what friends fairly nearby say.

That's because you don't live in a city. Watch this, it's from April 17. It's from a public channel, which means they're going to undermine the problem (euphemism)

https://www.francetvinfo.fr/sante/malad ... 20751.html

It's got much worse since then and not only in the so-called 'rough suburbs'. I think you might well be underestimating the increasing level of dicontent among the French. France's economy wasn't exactly thriving before the Covid crisis and now it's on the brink of collapse. Macron's newest idea for the country is to create a government of 'national unity' but so far only unpopular has-beens like Raffarin have shown a bit of interest. And the far right are lapping it up because they believe their time is coming. Look at what happened to Italy. Matteo Renzi was some kind of young arrogant go-getter who came to power because of the media. He talked a lot but delivered very little in the end. After his demise, some sort of national unity governement was set up and proved a shambles. And a couple of years later, the far right is now part of the government and pretty much running the show. Well, the same thing may happen to France soon. Next year, the local conservatives ('Les Republicains') are going to split up and their right wingers (Wauquiez, Ciotti) will form an alliance with RN. Then things are really going to kick off.

The bunker.
RIP

True, I don't live in the city but most of my work is in Toulouse and although I'm at home I do still talk to people spread across the area. I agree that there is going t be a return to Macron being massively unpopular once the crisis is over but I just don't see large scale defiance of the lockdown in 31.

Maybe I'm overthinking it but am I the only one somewhat offended this virus and things like #stayathome have essentially became marketing ploys? I watched wrestling (yeah the boredom really is sinking in) last night and every add break was loaded with these adds. I just feel like a lot of businesses, mainly streaming companies are making an absolute killing off a world's misfortune. I just feel like such an extreme disease shouldn't be name dropped in the way it is. I'm probably overthinking though.

Also "stay at home". I agree with the sentiment but where do they think I'm watching TV? The Hanging Gardens of Babylon?

agree. when i get something continually being rammed down my throat like this i,m more likely to do the opposite. there must be others who feel the same.

I think quite a few companies had already booked advertising slots and it would have been pointless showing their usual products so they went on message. No harm done.