That now locked yellow card thread

Far more abuse was flying about general election and Brexit threads, you’d almost think this talk needs shutting down because the bloke who runs the show on here can’t argue with what is being said. It speaks volumes that he hasn’t tried to as well apart from blaming the Chinese for starting it, a point I haven’t seen anyone really dispute. I wish I had saved all the mad, personal rants I’d had in my direction over the years yet Valliant gets a yellow for calling the same bloke ‘stupid’.

Red me if you want as well this is bollocks.

Who locked that thread? Someone please consult VAR! VAR should also be used to determine who starts the insults first as well as misquoted posts

I have a lot of respect for Mr I, he’s kept this board going for years out of his own pocket he’s was integral in the setting up of the trust but I am sorry this is rubbish behavior.

I am all for people respecting each other and not stepping over the line (apart from Sussex) but the all of a sudden moderation is comical when it’s been missing since the days of the No Rarfs Arms.

Why would that be???

Crackdown by Lauren Order

What I don’t get is how those of us really concerned about this are being vilified for making political points or for points scoring. Yet it seems to us that we’re the ones offering reasons, explaining our points and making reference to the evidence that’s out there. Those criticising us seem more often to make clear party political points, utilising counter narratives about what a different government may have done. Or just asking us to accept that the government are doing their best. I’ve made numerous references to why scrutiny is always important in any political process, but particularly in a time of crisis. Not a single critic has provided reasons to say why I’m wrong.

And I haven’t snapped yet, but it is really frustrating to see others respond to reasoned posts with unreason.

Mock , insult , ridicule , attempt to humiliate and if that doesn't work , isolate , first steps towards Fascism

I must admit to finding it all rather bizarre.

Any government in this position would I hope respond to the advice of the experts in the field of science and medicine. I support what’s being done in the knowledge that the advisers will in turn be doing their best.
I now find it churlish every time sniping and thinly veiled political point scoring crop up.
Let’s get this sorted before indulging in 20 20 hindsight or pure malice runs rampant.

Some of the experts who advised the government have openly said their advice was ignored. So no, we can’t just trust the government. As I’ve said numerous times (and it’s been ignored again), the science only gets us so far. What we do with the science (which is always contested) is a political and ethical choice. Politics is still important. Deferring to the experts is merely a call to shut down (scientific, political and ethical) debate.

No way am I blindly trusting this government on any issue especially this virus. They are culpable for many many deaths.

Exactly !

Sometime soon the lockdown will have to be lifted. Some experts will say the time is right , some won't , so then its left to the government , experts in politics ( allegedly ) , who we elect to make the correct decisions on our behalf. Hopefully this time they will get it right. We might even see our hapless Prime Minister convey the news.

I have never called for anyone to be banned and I didn't call for Valiant to be banned or
yellow carded.
I don't believe in banning.
Mr Valiant tried to engage in a slanging match and I refused, therefore complying with Mr Fatman's request for civility.
Purely and simply.