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 Post subject: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:38 pm 
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Got a right result yesterday.

I was flashed on the A50 near Derby a while back and was expecting a ticket. Sure enough it came last week. The dates on the ticket were:

Date of offence. 5/10/19
Date of Notice of intended prosecution - 30/10/19

Something in the back of my mind told me that the timescale was quite tight on these send the notice out so I did some digging. Sure enough they only have 14 days so I responded to the ticket explaining that it was time lapsed and not persuable. Yesterday they came back accepting my challenge and advising that it had been withdrawn.

Any tickets in future - check the dates carefully. You can't get away with this if you haven't kept you V5 updated with a new address by the way.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:50 pm 
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Thank God speed cameras will be dismantled as soon as Brexit happens.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 9:39 pm 
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Apols if you've already fielded this Mr.I but why were we showing 2079 hits at 1.55 in the morning last night?

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:10 pm 
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Got a right result yesterday.

I was flashed on the A50 near Derby a while back and was expecting a ticket. Sure enough it came last week. The dates on the ticket were:

Date of offence. 5/10/19
Date of Notice of intended prosecution - 30/10/19

Something in the back of my mind told me that the timescale was quite tight on these send the notice out so I did some digging. Sure enough they only have 14 days so I responded to the ticket explaining that it was time lapsed and not persuable. Yesterday they came back accepting my challenge and advising that it had been withdrawn.

Any tickets in future - check the dates carefully. You can't get away with this if you haven't kept you V5 updated with a new address by the way.


You do know that the two week limit to issue a NIP can be extended in certain circumstances. You challenged it successfully this time, but there's no guarantee it'll happen every time.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:21 pm 
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Maybe that's the answer to drivers speeding - a big copper goes round and issues a really hard nip. First offence a nip on the arm but after that much worse.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 10:30 pm 
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born toulouse wrote:
Maybe that's the answer to drivers speeding - a big copper goes round and issues a really hard nip. First offence a nip on the arm but after that much worse.


Think you're on to something there.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Got a right result yesterday.

I was flashed on the A50 near Derby a while back and was expecting a ticket. Sure enough it came last week. The dates on the ticket were:

Date of offence. 5/10/19
Date of Notice of intended prosecution - 30/10/19

Something in the back of my mind told me that the timescale was quite tight on these send the notice out so I did some digging. Sure enough they only have 14 days so I responded to the ticket explaining that it was time lapsed and not persuable. Yesterday they came back accepting my challenge and advising that it had been withdrawn.

Any tickets in future - check the dates carefully. You can't get away with this if you haven't kept you V5 updated with a new address by the way.


Mr I that is highly irresponsible of you to be speeding in the first place. You should have been taught from a young age... do the crime, pay the fine...

What sort of example are you setting to our younger audience... commit crime and challenge the authorities... You should stick to the speed limits bbolt


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 9:31 am 
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Not often you get the chance to speed these days, usually some retired couple in a Volvo SUV hogging either of the over taking lanes going 65 mph.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 10:04 am 
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Mr I that is highly irresponsible of you to be speeding in the first place. You should have been taught from a young age... do the crime, pay the fine...

so what have i done realy wrong doing a steady 80 mph down a near deserted A19 and A1 after a night match when someone behind you in the morning is upset by me only doing 20 mph on a snowy early morning road because its a 30 limit. as a country we seem to be obsessed by speed limits rather than driving to the road conditions.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:34 am 
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Indeed I do Mr Fat but I thought that the certain circumstances were related to them having to track you down or reissue to a different address. In my case the car was registered to the correct address the delay was due to them not doing their job effectively.

You'll know better than I but that's the way I understand it.

By the way, a bit irresponsible yes, 87 on an empty dual carriageway in good driving conditions in a car capable of 150 mph doesnt seem that excessive. Illegal yes but the law is outdated.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 11:58 am 
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That's all well and good but when the nipper comes round your way you'll be sorry.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:

By the way, a bit irresponsible yes, 87 on an empty dual carriageway in good driving conditions in a car capable of 150 mph doesnt seem that excessive. Illegal yes but the law is outdated.

probably not for you or me but for so many others half that speed would be too much. mind you 60 mph on a twisty narrow country roads like i have around me is far too fast although legal. horse riders, walkers etc. limits seem to be something that drivers now have to aspire to without any thought to road conditions due to weather or traffic etc.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:

By the way, a bit irresponsible yes, 87 on an empty dual carriageway in good driving conditions in a car capable of 150 mph doesnt seem that excessive. Illegal yes but the law is outdated.


Cars may have changed, but the people inside them haven't. Until they do, I don't think the law is outdated at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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accrington fan wrote:
as a country we seem to be obsessed by speed limits rather than driving to the road conditions.


As is often said by coppers, it's a limit, not a target.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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The Fat Man wrote:
As is often said by coppers, it's a limit, not a target.

Or "amber does not mean hurry up before it changes to red".

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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Me and me mates are on a protest at the moment and as such will not exceed 45 miles per hour on motorways and dual carriageways, whilst straddling the outside lanes.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 7:00 pm 
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But if you travel at 88 miles an hour you could purchase a golliwog doll and talk about it on a fake bus without someone swearing at you.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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The Fat Man wrote:
Cars may have changed, but the people inside them haven't. Until they do, I don't think the law is outdated at all.


Actually, when Britain's first motorways were opened, there was no speed limit.

It was only the fact that the cars of that time were so unreliable and caused chaos by breaking down when being red-lined at 65mph for 3 hours that resulted in the limit being imposed.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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And the 70 mph limit was based on 1960's car such as the Ford Anglia which had drum brakes and mechanical leafs springs as suspension. Those cars were very dangerous compared to todays vehicles. Think 1960's F1 safety compared to todays - its a world apart.

Even the French have an 81 mph limit but sensibly reduce it when the conditions dictate.


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They've also set fire to most of the speed cameras and think putting hazard lights on means they can do whatever they like no matter how dangerous.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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But if you travel at 88 miles an hour you could purchase a golliwog doll and talk about it on a fake bus without someone swearing at you.

:laugh: clappp :laugh:
It was a train you silly bugger.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
And the 70 mph limit was based on 1960's car such as the Ford Anglia which had drum brakes and mechanical leafs springs as suspension. Those cars were very dangerous compared to todays vehicles. Think 1960's F1 safety compared to todays - its a world apart.

Even the French have an 81 mph limit but sensibly reduce it when the conditions dictate.

it wasn,t just stuff like ford anglia,s either. owned a number of vauxhall cresta,s at that time. 2.6 or 3.3 litre and even with them you knew it when you were doing 60 mph. apart from the engine reliability tyres have improved out of all recognition since those days. the french certainly seem spot on as well with their limit.


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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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the french certainly seem spot on as well with their limit.

It means they can travel at 150kph without stretching things any further that a Brit doing 130 instead of 110. And they do.
Give 'em a centimetre and they take a kilometre works everywhere.

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Surely the future is these smart motorways where the limit changes. If it's busy or bad weather then the limit drops, but equally if it's quiet and the roads are clear then I don't see the harm in putting the limit higher than 70.

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'don't see the harm'.

What about the increases in pollution, fuel consumption and associated CO2 emissions.

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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To argue against myself for a second.

I regularly use the M6 from Stoke to Walsall. It’s mostly 50mph due to conversion to smart motorways. It’s always free flowing but slow through to 50 stretch of around 20 miles then you get the national speed limit signs so you can go faster.

Guess where the congestion starts.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:

I regularly use the M6 from Stoke to Walsall. It’s mostly 50mph due to conversion to smart motorways. It’s always free flowing but slow through to 50 stretch of around 20 miles then you get the national speed limit signs so you can go faster.

Guess where the congestion starts.

plus guess where the accidents are also if its anything like the M62 was when they were doing this type of work.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
To argue against myself for a second.

I regularly use the M6 from Stoke to Walsall. It’s mostly 50mph due to conversion to smart motorways. It’s always free flowing but slow through to 50 stretch of around 20 miles then you get the national speed limit signs so you can go faster.

Guess where the congestion starts.


Smart motorways and average speed cameras work to deal with congestion; if you've got to stick to a speed limit, it stops the speeding up and slowing down pattern of driving that leads to a 'concertina effect'. In a congested motorway, if you have to apply your brakes relatively hard, this concertina's back to the cars that follow (because everyone drives too close) so that, eventually, someone ends up either stopping or braking to a really low speed. With average speed cameras, you can't suddenly speed up, so most stop the sudden lane changes that causes someone to brake hard.

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driving too close is something those from abroad comment on the most regarding our driving habits. drive a correct distance behind someone then you are sure of someone pinching the space.


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accrington fan wrote:
driving too close is something those from abroad comment on the most regarding our driving habits. drive a correct distance behind someone then you are sure of someone pinching the space.

They're obviously not from Paris, Mr ACC. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Speeding ticket
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I am sure I read that smart motorways are being done away with as they are deemed to be dangerous.


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I am sure I read that smart motorways are being done away with as they are deemed to be dangerous.

its the lack of a hard shoulder that deemed them dangerous. thevidea is fine as long as they keep the hard shoulder. chief constable of south yorkshire was against them from the outset because of this.


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