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Just out of interest, has anyone actually seen Bale play? Because I haven't.

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Yep pre season, very quick and decent feet, TrEe I will hunt you down if you mention that Duracell bunny again, he makes Donaldson look messi ish.

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I can’t see why Steve Watson would want too leave York, probably on a similar salary as Pools would offer and moving too Hartlepool one league above isn’t exactly going too enhance his career.


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Just out of interest, has anyone actually seen Bale play? Because I haven't.

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When we first signed him I saw him for about 3 minutes as a late sub...I think it was against Aldershot? He seemed confident and physical but that's all I can remember.


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Featherstone alongside Mafuta doesnt work.


You mean the two players who set up the winning goals against the 5 wins-on-the-trot, 3rd top in the league side , not 7 days ago ?


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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:

You mean the two players who set up the winning goals against the 5 wins-on-the-trot, 3rd top in the league side , not 7 days ago ?


Featherstone should have been released in the summer, Hignetts retained list to a degree has cost him his job instead of have 20 Centre midfielders another commanding centre back and a more experienced keeper might have made more of a difference. Mafuta is the type of midfielder you need at this level, Featherstone isn’t. I’m not a hater of the bloke he’s decent player in the correct circumstances but he is indicative of the malaise we have endured over a sustained period. The epitome of inconsistency.


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I see Jeff Stelling has said on Twitter that he’s not behind the sacking of Hignett either, given he’s someone who put money into the cub this is another alarm bell ringing in my head.

I have been informed of another reason behind the sacking which would explain the sudden nature of it but Jeff surely would be aware of the issues involved and wouldn’t comment against the sacking? So I am skeptical at best on those rumours.


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Inconsistency on the field got Hignett the sack. He takes his teams so far then starts scratching his head, like a cross channel swimmer who half way across loses his sense of direction.

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[quote="Jamie1952"]Again it looks like player power, when Noble left no doubt he spoke with Singh and gave his opinions on Hignett. Maybe some the older players in the squad had also voiced concerns to Singh about Hignetts tactics and team selection.

thought the same thing myself once i heard about the sacking. who would i want as a replacement. i,d go for jim bentley at morecambe. done a brilliant job there keeping em in the league with the lowest budget for years and i think he could jump before being pushed there.


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thought the same thing myself once i heard about the sacking. who would i want as a replacement. i,d go for jim bentley at morecambe. done a brilliant job there keeping em in the league with the lowest budget for years and i think he could jump before being pushed there.[/quote]

What a horrible pair of bounders him and that scouse assistant are, wouldn`t have them if they came gift wrapped and they are shite to boot.

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The way I see it is Raj has acted quickly to react to the circumstances, to be blunt we have 3 people off the wage bill, we have ample staff for a club at our level, I couldn't give a damn who's in charge as long as they can get results, by that I mean they don't have to be a big name, ex-player or budding starlet, if the club cleaner could string together a run of good results I'd be happy.
Ian McGuckin and Sweens might be a good pairing. If we were on the hunt for a new Manager I'd love to see Neil Harris here, he's left Millwall after doing a fantastic job with them saying he;s taken them( a small club) as far as he can, well come and take our club that far please.......although I doubt he'd drop to our level unfortunately.

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Bentley’s best ever season must be finishing about 20th I have no idea how they are a still in the League or how he’s kept that job. It’s a no from me.


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We need a proven non league manager with no bells and whistles who will get them stuck in sick of thinking we are the barcelona of this league and watching teams like dover,stockport who dont play football much and beat us without breaking sweat.

Wednesday night was the perfect example far to naive even a blind man could see that.


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Also I notice the O/S has not been updated for a week now, it was previously daily, is that another cost cutting exercise?

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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
Also I notice the O/S has not been updated for a week now, it was previously daily, is that another cost cutting exercise?


It has been updated and what would they be saving on by not updating it.... Leccy!?

I’ll say it again, look at the job Evatt is doing at Barrow and they play good stuff by all accounts.

The tough thing would be convincing anyone in a job to come and work for a bloke who’s goes through managers at such an alarming rate.


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poolie wrote:
We need a proven non league manager with no bells and whistles who will get them stuck in sick of thinking we are the barcelona of this league and watching teams like dover,stockport who dont play football much and beat us without breaking sweat.

Wednesday night was the perfect example far to naive even a blind man could see that.

Exactly, Managers from the higher leagues try to instil there systems in the National League and it just doesn’t work.
Let’s be honest no Manager would drop down a League I don’t think, the ones who are available have been sacked.


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Poolie_on_Tyne wrote:

You mean the two players who set up the winning goals against the 5 wins-on-the-trot, 3rd top in the league side , not 7 days ago ?



So featherstone coming on as a sub and getting an assist from a deflected shot/cross means he is an ideal partner in midfield for Mafuta?

You will have to explain that logic.

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Sacking Craig Hignett this early in the season will only make sense if the person brought in to replace him does significantly better with the players at his disposal. It's certainly possible, but looking at Pools track record with managerial appointments since the oil money ran out (and Raj Singh's for that matter) I'm not optimistic.


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Every club in this league is inconsistent and every club is looking for that perfect fit manager who does not exist. These sacking were stupid if made for pure footballing reasons.

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Daft as it sounds, Sweeney has the look of a manager these days. I have a feeling if he gets a result or two...


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Daft as it sounds, Sweeney has the look of a manager these days. I have a feeling if he gets a result or two...


Never had a look of a manager imo but then again I could never have seen Darrell Clarke making it either.

Crazy league, top 3 lose and we are only 9 points off top.

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poolie wrote:
We need a proven non league manager with no bells and whistles who will get them stuck in sick of thinking we are the barcelona of this league and watching teams like dover,stockport who dont play football much and beat us without breaking sweat.

Wednesday night was the perfect example far to naive even a blind man could see that.

spot on for me poolie. just want someone in who,s no north east connections but not another oap like money.


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Bentley’s best ever season must be finishing about 20th I have no idea how they are a still in the League or how he’s kept that job. It’s a no from me.

fine, but they are still in the league and most of theur fans realise its because of him and not dispite him. him and his assistant might not be mr nice guys but mr nice guys rarely make good managers.


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So featherstone coming on as a sub and getting an assist from a deflected shot/cross means he is an ideal partner in midfield for Mafuta?

You will have to explain that logic.


I didn't say they are ideal partners - I only pointed out they were instrumental in the build up to the winning goals against a top-3 side.

Sticking to the facts, they both played yesterday in our biggest winning margin of the season


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fine, but they are still in the league and most of theur fans realise its because of him and not dispite him. him and his assistant might not be mr nice guys but mr nice guys rarely make good managers.


I see he’s got Morecambe flying high again this season with only one relegation spot up for grabs this season he can afford to be one place worse as well. Bottom of the League with one win all season at the moment though. I struggle to see any evidence of him being a good manager. Plus this is the year they are going down as they signed Mr drop out of the League himself Lewis Alessandra.

As I say though I doubt anyone would leave a job that appears impossible to get sacked from for one that’s impossible not to be sacked from!!


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whoever does get the job would be a fool to move house. a minimum 6 months rental agreement is pushing it a bit also.


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I can't see Bentley leaving Morecambe even if they are relegated. How that team survive season after season is beyond me, can't help but feel they're riding their luck.

I wonder if Lee Bradbury would of been a good fit here?


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Just as long as it's not Sol Campbell. For God's sake not him. :angry-screaming:


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Just as long as it's not Sol Campbell. For God's sake not him. :angry-screaming:


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The tough thing would be convincing anyone in a job to come and work for a bloke who’s goes through managers at such an alarming rate.


The last one being his mate and hasn't even lasted one season. Raj's track record on managers is piss poor. Is it 3 in a year for you lot? 5 in two and half for us. I reckon Sweeney will be in charge for a while yet.


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Firstly, you can hardly count Richard Money. On paper he was a stand out candidate, and he packed in.
Secondly, should a prospective manager really be surprised that we (like every other club) sack managers who are not producing the goods, particularly when they are well backed by the chairman.


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Raj always liked Hignett being here as he was helping him out on the football side of things which always seemed to make sense, who will do that role now?

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[quote="Pooly_Imp"]Firstly, you can hardly count Richard Money. On paper he was a stand out candidate,
problem with money was his appointment was 10 years too late for me. to be honest there is no out of work candidate out of work for the pools job and cannot think of anyone in the league below who is doing that well against the odds. think we all could be a bit underwhelmed once the appointment is publicised.


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Raj would have sacked Dickie Dosh in a matter of weeks if he hadn't bailed.

Of the 3 veteran managers Pools have tried in the last 5 years only Ronnie Moore was borderline competent. Money and Jones the Odious were so far past their sell by dates they'd have stunk Poundland out.


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fred westgarth is more animated now than bloody dave jones was. he should have a statue built dor dogs to piss on.


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Is all well with our club,Jeff stelling not happy higgy getting sacked, is raj telling us all .I wonder.


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Of course it isn't and of course he isn't. If all is well the manager doesn't get sacked and businessmen in charge of football clubs, or other businesses, never tell 'outsiders' all. In fact they rarely tell them anything much.

My guess is that finances are stretched, Raj doesn't want to put much more in and he feels Hignett's public comments on budgets were basically disloyal because they put some of the private stuff into the public domain.

Plan 25 has to be a smokescreen because there was already an openly under-funded three-year plan to return to League 2 in place and it isn't working. Plan 25 might be the next intended instalment but it probably depends on going up this season and reducing yearly losses with the extra income.

All just guesswork and maybe I'm paranoid but I hope the Trust earned a shedload of money with the legends match because we might need one very soon.


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My guess is that finances are stretched, Raj doesn't want to put much more in and he feels Hignett's public comments on budgets were basically disloyal because they put some of the private stuff into the public domain.


I was surprised by Hignett 'releasing' that financial information, was unnecessary and I'm sure Raj would not have agreed to it.

We really really really need an FA Cup run though.

As for Jeff, bless him, he's not that good at Twitter, he usually stays away but I think he's having another go due to his lay off after his hand operation. Jeff, you are brilliant, but don't engage on Twitter, it's really not necessary.

The Mail attempted to stir with a reply he made on a comment about Pools being the next Darlo or Bury, they took it has him saying Martin Gray wouldn't get the Pools job. Anybody could see that's not what Jeff was saying, but they still twisted it.

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I’m sure he was talking about Gray as well.

The new lad in the Mail is Pulitzer Prize winning compared to that Kennedy bloke and I can give you FIVE reasons why at least but ripping stuff straight off Twitter and trying to find hidden meanings in it is almost at his depths.

No more than a Scurr story.


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Jeff gets involved a bit too much on twitter, though i had to lol when he told a certain pools fan he was clueless, though he'll probs get an email to his gaffer at work tomorrow trying to get him sacked.

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I seen that as well... Frank is writing an email as we speak!

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Which Pools fan did he call clueless and is there a link?

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s'not gonna be Sol Campbell then, gone to Southend and watched them lost 7-1 at home!!

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A close shave.......that never was.

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s'not gonna be Sol Campbell then, gone to Southend and watched them lost 7-1 at home!!

https://talksport.com/football/efl/6193 ... eague-one/


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Who said it was?!

Odd comment.

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He’s got to go for me, he’s failed to instill any discipline in those fours hours as they had 9 men before half time and wasn’t he a former defender? Shipping seven goals shows he’s not used those 240 minutes to work on team shape or the offside trap. It’s a results business at the end of the day.


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He’s got to go for me, he’s failed to instill any discipline in those fours hours as they had 9 men before half time and wasn’t he a former defender? Shipping seven goals shows he’s not used those 240 minutes to work on team shape or the offside trap. It’s a results business at the end of the day.

Obviously guilty by association. He had several hours to sort it and failed so he has to go. At least they can move on now and turn a new page.....etc, etc

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Does that mean he's back in the frame for Pools?


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