Higgy and Ged sacked

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Hartleblue wrote:

I,d have given him till Xmas but if we were still in even mid table then time to go. Whoever gets appointed will have to start from scratch again so we might as well forget about promotion, play offs or anything else it looks like a survival season yet again. banghead

The chairman has clearly acted going by his statement in an attempt to prevent that sort of season.

At some point we have got stop thinking so short term though, we will go nowhere until we achieve some sort of stability. Not all the managers we have sacked can have been that bad.

I would go for Ian Evatt of Barrow by the way.

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

Chris Powell
Sol Campbell
Michael Brown
Ben Clark

yloop · **Posted:** Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:47 pm

Monkeybutt wrote:

Oi Sweeney, pick this team and you can thank me later.

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale
Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta
Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James

Get around or problem of having too many central midfielders by playing them as full backs then put our two full backs who have played well all season on the bench.

You're becoming a parody of yourself now, at first I thought you were serious but this really is a joke account isn't it?

Fetish_Bob · **Posted:** Thu Oct 10, 2019 4:57 pm

Monkeybutt wrote:

Chris Powell
Sol Campbell
Michael Brown
Ben Clark

Chris Powell on the England coaching staff stay there till a more attractive position comes up or join a national league team that been sacking managers about every 6-8 months for years

charco · **Joined:** Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:24 am **Posts:** 885

I am disappointed and not a little bit pissed off.

We were head and shoulders the better team at Stockport and played some good footy. A couple of defensive lapses and poor finishing cost us the game, but the game plan was plain to see and I remember thinking after the match that some team were in for a good hiding when it finally all clicks together.

Higgy wanted to play football, which is a good long-term strategy for getting us up the league.

I just hope that we don't get another has-been like Money or Short-term fixit like Mr Harry Houdini.

charco · **Joined:** Thu Jun 25, 2015 8:24 am **Posts:** 885

charco wrote:

I am disappointed and not a little bit pissed off.

We were head and shoulders the better team at Stockport and played some good footy. A couple of defensive lapses and poor finishing cost us the game, but the game plan was plain to see and I remember thinking after the match that some team were in for a good hiding when it finally all clicks together.

Higgy wanted to play football, which is a good long-term strategy for getting us up the league.

I just hope that we don't get another has-been like Money or Short-term fixit like Mr Harry Mooredini.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Thu Oct 10, 2019 5:26 pm

Monkeybutt wrote:

Oi Sweeney, pick this team and you can thank me later.

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale
Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta
Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James

You were lucky to get a proper keeper in there seeing as though you obviously just picked the names out of a hat.

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale
Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta
Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James[/quote]

:laugh:

Get around or problem of having too many central midfielders by playing them as full backs then put our two full backs who have played well all season on the bench.

You're becoming a parody of yourself now, at first I thought you were serious but this really is a joke account isn't it?[/quote]

That you Craig?

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale
Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta
Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James[/quote]

You were lucky to get a proper keeper in there seeing as though you obviously just picked the names out of a hat.[/quote]

So you would pick the same players and get the same results, wow sherlock!

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:38 pm

Not bothered about starting line up my subs would be Kerr kabamba Kennedy kioso and kitching

Pooly_Imp · **Joined:** Fri Jun 03, 2011 1:36 pm **Posts:** 2810

Raj had to act. He can't wait years and years for this to come good. He can see what the rest of us can (or should) see..... managers elsewhere with far less support from their chairman picking up point after point, sometimes at our expense. Raj had a 3-4 year plan which he budgeted for. I don't think he was unreasonable in thinking that we should be better than this considering he has put his money where his mouth is. Its all very well people saying we should have consistency when they're not the ones writing the massive cheques while having to sit through dross.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22670

I find it disappointing and a bit disloyal. CH was the main catalyst for Raj Singh buying the club. It’s not too much of a stretch to say that Pools wouldn’t exist without his input.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Mr Irrelevant wrote:

I find it disappointing and a bit disloyal. CH was the main catalyst for Raj Singh buying the club. It’s not too much of a stretch to say that Pools wouldn’t exist without his input.

I agree with that to a large extent and will always have a lot of respect and time for Craig but I don’t think that means he was the best person to be managing the team, he wasn’t brought back in that capacity but he failed on the golden rule at Pools. Avoid the managers job. But 20 points from 17 games with the scope he was afforded in the summer is totally shit, 5 wins from 17 with the players we have is not good at all.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37486

At this point of the season we should be seeing a sign of a team developing and yet we have no defined first team and the same old inconsistency.Win one, lose one and no sign on the horizon of it changing.
Change was inevitable, you get no rewards in this game for being a canny bloke.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I agree again but sometimes it takes longer than that to click, one signing to add a spark a run of games were we find your best team, I remember us being bottom of the Football League in November after a summer where we signed a few then adding a couple of players (they were quite decent in fairness Smith and Watson) at the lowest ebb and ending up having a rather enjoyable day at Exeter last day of the season! I don’t think our current squad is that far off being decent. Why not look at the couple of players we need try and move on ones we don’t, rather than sacking another manager?

I’m slightly concerned about this development as by all accounts no manager is lined up.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Monkeybutt wrote:

Oi Sweeney, pick this team and you can thank me later.

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale
Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta
Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James

I respect you mr butt as you go to pools way more than I do but you are playing a central midfielder at right back and a centre back at left back.

I’m assuming your going 4-4-2 but that then means you are playing 4 central midfielders and no wingers. Who are the wingers?

I am sure if hignett had played with that team you would hammer him

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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Your team brought to you in association with the Royal Mail.

It’s innovative to go with any sort of left sided player with at least some defensive duties. Unless Bale is Gareth revisiting his youth? He has fell out with Real Madrid.

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

Oi Sweeney, pick this team and you can thank me later.

Klip
Donaldson
Kerr
Raynes
Cunningham
Bale

Holohan
Kennedy
Mafuta

Muir
Toure

Subs
Kioso
Kitching
Kabamba
Featherstone
James[/quote]

The line up is 3-5-2, so Donaldson and Bale are wing backs, what is so difficult to understand, they just replaced Kioso and Kitching.

I respect you mr butt as you go to pools way more than I do but you are playing a central midfielder at right back and a centre back at left back.

I’m assuming your going 4-4-2 but that then means you are playing 4 central midfielders and no wingers. Who are the wingers?

I am sure if hignett had played with that team you would hammer him

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Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

PJPoolie wrote:

Your team brought to you in association with the Royal Mail.

It’s innovative to go with any sort of left sided player with at least some defensive duties. Unless Bale is Gareth revisiting his youth? He has fell out with Real Madrid.

Our Bale is left footed, you would know if you had seen him!

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I did for couple of games in pre season he played holding midfield.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

He might be left footed but that doesnt make him a winger.

Mufata is right footed but you wouldnt put him right wing.

You've put a holding midfield player left wing back?

Thats crazy.

Teams dont do that at the top level why do you think our players can do it?

RAY52 · **Joined:** Sat Aug 11, 2007 7:36 pm **Posts:** 932

poolie wrote:

Steve Watson................

Totally agree, he could teach them how to take those funny long throws as well

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

phil wrote:

I'm disappointed to see Hignett go. Unlike some, I did think we were seeing a plan starting to come together. It would have probably been too late for this season, which isn't really good enough when Raj is investing the amounts he is, but I can't see a new manager getting us to the top spots by the end of this season either.

I never really disagreed with Hignett's line up, but I found him immensely frustrating when he would leave substitutions until the 75th minute.

I also like that we have so many young players that will hopefully grow as part of the team. Best thing about supporting a football team as crap as ours is seeing young lads coming to the squad and making a name for themselves. Hignett has brought on Hawkes, Richardson and Cunningham from our youth team. We've also got Kioso, Killip, Bale and Molyneux as young players. Even Mafuta is only 24. I hope that whoever takes over follows a similar path.

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Actually this brings me back to last night I’ll start with Virgo when he was suggesting Gus was a ‘very experienced player’ and was having a nightmare in possession (he at that point has been caught in possession once but did lose his man at the corner for the first goal) but that’s small fry compared to Adam Summerton won the prize for laziest least astute diatribe “Josh Hawkes thrived under Richard Money and has struggled since his departure from the club” Say what!!?

born toulouse · **Posted:** Thu Oct 10, 2019 10:08 pm

I've got a horrible feeling that things are about to start unravelling. Hope I'm wrong but I read this as a sign that Raj wants promotion this season or the investment ends.

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

born toulouse wrote:

I've got a horrible feeling that things are about to start unravelling. Hope I'm wrong but I read this as a sign that Raj wants promotion this season or the investment ends.

I agree, 3 year plan needed additional investment, has to be this year I reckon to go up.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

born toulouse wrote:

I've got a horrible feeling that things are about to start unravelling. Hope I'm wrong but I read this as a sign that Raj wants promotion this season or the investment ends.

That is my concern as well. I was hoping for rumours of an incoming manager from home, I haven’t received any.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

I think Bale has one of them infamous Denis Behan left pegs

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22670

born toulouse wrote:

I've got a horrible feeling that things are about to start unravelling. Hope I'm wrong but I read this as a sign that Raj wants promotion this season or the investment ends.

That’s the bit I hesitated to say but let’s keep changing the manager, it’s always worked well for us.

Remember the good old days when lots of people wanted rid of Danny Wilson because we were only 8th in League One?

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 6:58 am

Kenton Richardson should be nowhere near a hartlepool united team. A woeful player.

trevwoody · **Joined:** Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:44 pm **Posts:** 386

Look who’s ready and waiting for a call

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/50006010

pittingtonone · **Joined:** Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:03 pm **Posts:** 130

Great news this is hopefully the start of some real change. I'm not going to the matches but off the highlights they must be keeping all these dominating good parts to themselves. The squad has numbers but lacking greatly on quality and to keep reading James and featherstone are the solutions only goes to comfirm the problem. Never in the history of football has a forward scored so little and been praised so much. He is one of many not capable of performing at this standard.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Sacked the over the phone by Maguire according to the Echo which is a disgrace in itself and they are linking us to the arsehole that is Martin Gray. If they go there that’s it for me.

RemotePoolie · **Joined:** Tue Feb 19, 2019 8:34 am **Posts:** 597

I have an awful feeling about all of this...

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Concurring.

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

phil wrote:

I think we have enough players in this squad we should be able to make money on, if we've been clever enough to get them on long contracts, that Raj isn't panicking about his investment, provided we get them playing well and in the shop window. I think every appointment we make is important, but I also think we have a group of players here that can achieve something with the right person in charge. I don't think they'll do it this season, but if we can get a manager in that gets our young players performing consistently then we have no reason to worry about league position or income.

Killip
Richardson Kioso Raynes Kitching
Mafuta Kennedy
Molyneux (when fit, Donaldson until then) Hawkes Toure
Kabamba (would be my first choice, but there are teams where James or Muir would be better.)

Cunningham, Richardson and Kioso can be rotated, so they all get game time. Again, use them for their strengths against different teams.

That line up features numerous young players that we will make a profit on if they are performing. Equally, it's got a few experienced heads and big physical players to mix it up.

I also like the 343/352 in certain circumstances, but if we're playing one of the whipping boys in the league then we should be getting in their faces and getting at them. 3 at the back leaves us too defensively vulnerable away from home and too stretched in midfield.

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The fact you think Richardson and James should even be in the squad makes the whole post a crock, I get you like to please but make a choice based on performance.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19787

PJPoolie wrote:

Sacked the over the phone by Maguire according to the Echo which is a disgrace in itself and they are linking us to the arsehole that is Martin Gray. If they go there that’s it for me.

yes, its no way to sack any guy. hate to see martin gray in morrisons car park never mind pools manager but at times being an arsehole and a good football manager seem to go hand in hand with each other. how long could taj have waited to get rid of higgy. was wednesday night the best starting 11 he could have put out. was the defence shit. was the build up play so slow and laboured again. are the results so irratic its unbelievable. the time might have been a little quick but there are players at the club who i,m sure could do better with different tactics and an arsehole in the job who can give the fans a winning team by getting into the oppositions faces and getting forward up the pitch much more quickly.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Gray isn’t a good football manager though he’s managed one full time club where he was an absolute disaster

Help · **Joined:** Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:53 pm **Posts:** 30

STEVE WATSON 100% no matter how much it costs.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:47 am

phil wrote:

The list of realistic managers that haven't already been sacked by Pools can fit on the back of a postage stamp.

Maybe now is the time for the Humphreys/Barron dream team...

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Unless the new appointment has the support of the fans i think this will get very messy.
Many (not all) are surprised by the sackings so what we get now has got to be better.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:54 am

The choice is clear to me:

Martin Gray

Ronnie Moore

Billy Horner

Monkeybutt

Time for Raj to spin the wheel of stupidity.

Help · **Joined:** Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:53 pm **Posts:** 30

The one and only choice STEVE WATSON. Crowd funding for the compensation....

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

born toulouse wrote:

The choice is clear to me:

Martin Gray

Ronnie Moore

Billy Horner

Monkeybutt

Time for Raj to spin the wheel of stupidity.

I would be the best choice out of that mess!

northumberland · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 10:58 am

Steve Watson all day long for me.

Amazing job at Gateshead with no players or money and now top of NL North.

Of course he might not be interested as York are traditionally a similar sized club to us and are likely to be in the same division come next year.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Monkeybutt wrote:

I would be the best choice out of that mess!

I'm not convinced you would be :laugh:

born toulouse · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:03 am

Billy Horner might be 79 but he still has his club car. It reappears in times of need, like Excalibur but with a better paint job.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Players at this level struggle to play their own position, nevermind a totally different role just because of what footed they are. The fact he hasnt even started a league game yet makes it an even worse choice imo, could shatter his confidence straight away. We all saw the abuse Crichlow got and that was his natural position.

Saying that I like Kitching but he gets into positions around the box but he never ever looks like scoring or getting an assist etc. Id give Crichlow a game.

For me we needs more energy in the team, its too slow at the moment. Featherstone alongside Mafuta doesnt work. Id go with....

------------------Killip------------
----Raynes------Kerr-----Cunningham
Kioso----------------------------Crichlow
-------Bale----Mafuta----Holohan
------------Toure----Donaldson

Jamie1952 · **Joined:** Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:56 pm **Posts:** 7452

Again it looks like player power, when Noble left no doubt he spoke with Singh and gave his opinions on Hignett. Maybe some the older players in the squad had also voiced concerns to Singh about Hignetts tactics and team selection.
Will they take any notice of Sweeney who is only a couple of years older than some of the players ?

Monkeybutt · **Joined:** Sun Jan 21, 2018 6:22 pm **Posts:** 2428

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:

Players at this level struggle to play their own position, nevermind a totally different role just because of what footed they are. The fact he hasnt even started a league game yet makes it an even worse choice imo, could shatter his confidence straight away. We all saw the abuse Crichlow got and that was his natural position.

Saying that I like Kitching but he gets into positions around the box but he never ever looks like scoring or getting an assist etc. Id give Crichlow a game.

For me we needs more energy in the team, its too slow at the moment. Featherstone alongside Mafuta doesnt work. Id go with....

------------------Killip------------
----Raynes------Kerr-----Cunningham
Kioso----------------------------Crichlow
-------Bale----Mafuta----Holohan
------------Toure----Donaldson

You know Bale is left footed yeah and Donaldson couldn`t hit a cows arse with a cello?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Monkeybutt wrote:

You know Bale is left footed yeah and Donaldson couldn`t hit a cows arse with a cello?

Cant say I was overly fussed about which spot I put the middle 3 or the 3 centre backs in.

Ok il put James in instead of Donaldson.

Bluestreak · **Posted:** Fri Oct 11, 2019 11:33 am

born toulouse wrote:

Billy Horner might be 79 but he still has his club car. It reappears in times of need, like Excalibur but with a better paint job.

I think its a Datsun.

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