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We both made an argument based on factual things and opinions, and i was wrong on this occasion, but i tried to look at it from another angle. Except i didn't abuse someone to to make a political point and then discredit the person making their side of things based on their experience by accusing them of "bluster" because that's what the believe of a certain type of person. Did i say they know fuck all because they've never been in the houses of parliament or seen how politics works and used this to further own political views based on an existing hatred (and i have no evidence of that either to make that kind of claim), no i didn't, because people are entitled to an opinion. When the opinion becomes about the person themselves, rather than the policy or the opinion then i'm afraid that goes too far and i will not back down on that.

You do agree that Jacob Rees-Mogg is a c*nt though?

To be honest I thought your tone was pretty patronising from the off - explaining that the press can be biased and so on - but I tried to stick to the facts. It was a bit frustrating when you didn't seem to be reading the evidence I offered you properly but I stuck to the facts. Saying that your work experience should count as form of fact checking really pissed me off though.

You obviously have, or at least had, a job that provided some insight into Westminster and politicians' lives but you seem to think nobody else might have any skills, experience or knowledge that might mean they're well equipped to make a point too. For example, how do you know I've never been in the Houses of Parliament? Could it be possible that I have an inside view on the media? I might even have direct personal experience of press bias. There are lots of people who post on here who have done jobs that put them in a very good position to argue in an informed way about a range of topics. It's also sometimes the case that being too close to something, or directly involved in it, skews your view.

As far as the idea that any opinion of someone like Rees-Mogg has to be based on policies alone, that is just ridiculous. He followed up the dossing around by abusing parliamentary privilege to slander a consultant neurologist and then had to apologise. Where does that arrogance come from? It isn't from his policies. It's from his wealthy background, exclusive schooling, elitist university education and enormous private wealth generated by playing the markets using inside information gathered from the political sphere.

I could also mention that his stated policy is pro-Brexit but he moved his business to Dublin, possibly for tax reasons but it also shows he's happy to keep his own affairs in the EU.

Finally, you've clearly got me down as somebody who hates all MPs but I don't. A lot of them are corrupt, expenses fiddling crooks who should be locked up. That's without considering all the 'outside interests' that tend to involve taking payments from companies who hope to influence events or at least gather intelligence. Others, and I'd include some Tories in this, are hard working dedicated public servants. Look at Ruth Smeeth that Mr I mentioned. I don't agree with everything she says but you can't fault her record for hard work, clean expenses claims or outside interests. I said what I said about Rees-Mogg because if the Tory leadership believe what they say about standards in public office they should be disciplining him on a number of counts not hounding out anyone who disagrees with them on Brexit.

Right lets all forget about this political shite lets talk about making some money out of it.

Per Coral
To be shortest serving PM ever (under 119 days) (appointed 24 July 2019) 2/1 ..........i am having a punt

Another

Rory Stewart to be PM before 2030 25/1..........good value bet i would say.

Fill ya boots chaps.

I accept most of what you say here, i don't know you from the next person so i can't comment on your views of MPs or even have you down as an MP hater. But to hate one MP because of his behaviour in Parliament, which was not the best thing to do but ultimately nothing wrong with it, to make a political point about why would any one vote for this party is a bit much. His background is his background, and agree with it or not, having a go at him for that is no better than him having a go at people from more working class backgrounds, it's just the same behaviour in reverse so no better. Equally to dismiss my offer of an explanation as bluster and what you'd expect from PR people is also offensive directly to me. All i was trying to do was say consider some alternatives before using a photo like that to a political end and offering my own personal experience of why MPs sometimes look asleep, i didn't mean that to be patronising and i apologise if it came across that way. Yes i was wrong on this occasion, he was being an arse, i accept that. But why did you feel the need be offensive to me as i disagreed with your assessment of the situation? It undermines your argument which could have been fair...

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Bald as well mr toulouse ?? If it's all about image Bo Jo wigs are all the rage over here atm..


Are you retiring in France or England ? Is Brexit a problem to your pension pot??

JHumps.

Mogg is an utter utter c**t. It's impossible to believe anything else. A truly loathsome human being. One that has been found out very quickly.

Older and fatter than Owen Jones but not as old. fat or daft as you. Will be working for a while yet and pension will be fine either way. to I'll

for me its not what he actually says that bothers me that much, its the vtotally arrogant way he says it. typically public schoolboy type. met a number like him when i played hockey. its this air of total superiority they have about them which the majority of us seem unable to obtain.

Don’t let facts get in the way of the truth though

I personally think his policy ideas honk, I mean, keeping the NHS free for all, building schools and hospitals, looking after the sick and old, but most of all bringing in money from the billions hidden away by the men of the people like the Barclay brothers are just mental

Think of all the banana republic countries we could help out with that money Talbot.And there'd be plenty left over for Hamas and the likes..

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