Laugh all you want PJ .but it's the likes of people like you who make my flesh creep when you ignore the many ongoing grooming trials..

How hasn’t this idiot been banned? Now what is he taking about!!? What has child grooming got to do with asylum seekers?

A racist buffoon and a fucking moron.

Making up things as you go along has become a common trait of your's PJ..are you putting that sun factor 200 on that bald patch like i advised you ??

I think you need to put down the Special Brew, log out and take your piss soaked Y fronts to bed. I find it’s better to type words in an order that make sense so you people know what you are on about.

Apologies to anyone else reading what was an interesting enough thread but this balloon needs calling out, he adds nothing.

You're so out of touch PJ ..it's all Peroni and San Miguel ,flavoured gins and the likes....dry throat ??

Talking to a few colleagues at work about Asylum seekers in Britain doesn't convince me ..Anything to back this up with facts ?? Of course they'd have to be looking for work.it's drilled into them by your sorts at Calais and other ports..[/quote]

Given that you have no idea what my job is I'd quit now if I were you.

Please can you rephrase this reply too, I'm not quite sure what you're getting at.

Given that you have no idea what my job is I'd quit now if I were you.

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I'll have a guess. Yoghurt Supplier ?? Jo Brands PR ??

zzzzzzz...

It’s anecdotally true that the East Europeans are hard working and a credit to their country. Unfortunately you cannot say the same for the Africans and the Arabs. Africans are bone idle in Africa so no reason they should be any different here. Not when they can claim from the government and make up the difference from crime.

Does that include Afrikaans?

I haven’t seen too many rowing across the channel. I’ve seen a lot of Africa but never South Africa so I can’t really say.

There are only about 1.25 billion people living in Africa so nobody could accuse you of generalising.

nee praat hulle afrikaans ook. dankie meneer.

no they speak african as well. Thank you sir

Its weird how obsessed some far right people are with child grooming gangs


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[quote="Yubep"]Its weird how obsessed some far right people are with child grooming gangs


no just ignore them as they do not really exist and are a figment of the Daily Mail,s imagination. do not upset em as it may cause upset to em all and infringe their human rights.

I think it’s exclusively the nonces with brown skin they are obsessed with.

I would love to know in what way or level people ‘ignore’ grooming gangs, it’s like something from brass eye. Given even Yaxley-Lennon only actually rocks up when they are in court before they get massive prison sentences. He’s hardly the racist Sherlock Holmes is he? I have even read that ‘Tommy’ ‘exposes them’ it’s about as absurd as anyone can get. How do these imbeciles suspect they got in the dock in the first half place? It’s like saying you exposed the Yorkshire Ripper because you saw the report on News at Ten.

Far right ? Left,Centre or Right wing does it matter shouldn't we all be concerned that the same community keeps coming up time and time again in many past and present grooming trials ?

If you have genuine concerns over the grooming of children you should start with the Catholic Church.

I suspect you don’t though.

Still... bit weird


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Another sickening abuse case, are you going start the thread ??.. Are you going answer my question or dodge it like everyone else?

Who or wouldn’t be concerned about vulnerable children being exploited and sexually abused? I would imagine every normal and right minded person would find anyone indulging in those sort of crimes abhorrent and sub human.

But don’t you think the authorities are now wise to this type of crime after cases like Rochdale and the reason you are hearing about a lot of these gangs is because they are being caught and brought to justice?

How exactly is the issue being ignored? What do you want us to say or do beyond that? You are an idiot on an industrial level, like a parody of racist Moron created by The Viz.

I'd like to see a brave enough paper print it PJ.

Are you seriously suggesting the press don’t cover these cases?

Are you actually all there? I’d call it brainwashing if you had ever provided evidence of having a brain.

Who gives a hoot what you think PJ..i'm still seething from your comments on the Adam Johnson thread..

‘Seething’

Sad, racist, weirdo.

Right that is my last engagement with you, again apologies to other board users.

Seething - jesus christ.

biggest idiot around.

The police and social services have failed so many of these victims.There's 100's maybe the figures run into 1000's .Yes it does get my back up,maybe the biggest scandal in a decade..And all you can come back with is idiot and weirdo.

With my analysis of the legal position of different forms of migration?

Paedophile rings have been round a lot longer in the UK than we've had asian immigration.

Nonces come from any background. They abuse kids of any background. It is a myth that asians only abuse white kids.

The reason a lot of asian gangs are being prosecuted is partly a reaction to put things right, partly because the publicity has led more people to come forward (like the Savile case), and also it is easier for the police to get convictions because asian paedophile rings don't usually have members in positions of influence like white British ones do.

If anyone was really bothered by kids being abused they would be demonstrating outside parliament about Teresa May 'losing' a dossier with information on MP abusers in it.

In it's own way that's as ridiculous as the shite Sussex is coming out with. The reason 'a lot of Asian gangs are being prosecuted' is because their organised abuse of vulnerable children went on with impunity in towns and cities right across the country for too many years, while (mostly) Labour councils presided over a culture of looking the other way for fear of damaging race relations. Unfortunately there are more mass trials in the pipeline for Yaxley-Lennon to bang his gums about, but it's a long way from being the case that all the victims will get justice or that all the perpetrators get the punishment they deserve.

Yes, it's fucking terrible that the Far Right are in a position to make political capital out of this - but if it had been stamped on from the beginning it would never have reached the proportions that it did.

No doubt there are plenty of white paedophiles dodging justice as well, but with the Carl Beech trial heading to its inevitable conclusion it's not the best time for conspiracy theories, is it?

What are the exact figures then?

My biggest concern is the majority of people from the Arab countries are single lads 25/30 years old, the government are always talking about how great we are at integrating they are obviously wear blinkers. Very rarely do the Arab population integrate and the the majority only come to the U.K. for the ‘free ride’
We are a real soft touch in the U.K. and foreigners know it, we allow them to continue in their beliefs, beliefs from which they have ran away from.
It’s been said many time you try practice Christian beliefs in an Arab country.
By 2050 there will be more Muslims in the U.K., they are encouraged too have loads of kids with their many wives.

Jamie, please can you answer the following questions:

What exactly do you mean by 'free ride'?

Please give me a list of 'Arab' countries where Christians can' practice their beliefs?

Some of the ignorance towards this part of the World is staggering I live in an Arab country and believe it or not we have churches here for Christians I know quite a few people who go to Church every week, the shops get Christmas and Easter stuff in as well.

The Uk is a civilised country why would we or should we have any desire to stop someone practicing any religious faith? I find it all religion a nonsense but surely we can be tolerant and respectful towards other people? Are you suggesting by the year 2050 we will be outnumbered by Muslims in the UK? That is insane if you are, it’s like the far right are brainwashing people. These sort of attitudes fuel and grow extremism on either side.

Anyone going to Shildon next week?

Only if they have a mosque, 2050 is too far away, I want it done by next year.

Won't be long before all friendlies are played under Sharia law. First step towards a fully Muslamic league structure by 2050.

"Locomotion" the railway museum is great the only thing that lets it down is badly signposted so i have put a complaint in.

i imagine even now in parts of this country that there are more that pray in a mosque than in churches. do not know the figures on this but by what i,ve seen church attendance is taling off mhilst muslim worshipers stays the same. what a lot of right wingers do not get is that the vast majority of these worshipers are not and never will be terrorists but people like you and i who just want to carry on with a normal life in the area they live.

I could post loads of links/articles not right wing backing up that by 2050 there will be more Muslims than Christians in the U.K. but you would probably discredit every one.

Fact of life Muslim families have 3 times more kids than Brits, they are encouraged too.

The U.K. a civilised country but there were 132 murders on London last year and currently the total is 56. Even in Hartlepool murders are becoming very common now.

I think if you look at the figures for the Brexit vote the majority voted out because of immigration. Foreigners have no respect for for the U.K. not all though but the majority who are queuing up in France are coming for the freebies on offer not for the love off the U.K.

I could post loads of links/articles not right wing backing up that by 2050 there will be more Muslims than Christians in the U.K. but you would probably discredit every one.

Fact of life Muslim families have 3 times more kids than Brits, they are encouraged too.

The U.K. a civilised country but there were 132 murders on London last year and currently the total is 56. Even in Hartlepool murders are becoming very common now.

I think if you look at the figures for the Brexit vote the majority voted out because of immigration. Foreigners have no respect for for the U.K. not all though but the majority who are queuing up in France are coming for the freebies on offer not for the love off the U.K.[/quote]
does it actually matter if there are more practising muslims than christians. does it matter that they have more kids than whites do. {something that used to be pointed out about catholics}'. are murders muslim v non muslim. whilst many of immigrants do not come to britain for the long haul i do think the majority are here for the money and then go back with what they see as job done.

I could post loads of links/articles not right wing backing up that by 2050 there will be more Muslims than Christians in the U.K. but you would probably discredit every one.

Fact of life Muslim families have 3 times more kids than Brits, they are encouraged too.

The U.K. a civilised country but there were 132 murders on London last year and currently the total is 56. Even in Hartlepool murders are becoming very common now.

I think if you look at the figures for the Brexit vote the majority voted out because of immigration. Foreigners have no respect for for the U.K. not all though but the majority who are queuing up in France are coming for the freebies on offer not for the love off the U.K.[/quote]

The murders in Hartlepool aren’t being carried out by Muslims are they Jamie ?


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They aren’t in the main in London either, unless anyone now with black skin is a foreigner and a Muslim.

How is us voting to leave the EU linked to illegal immigration and asylum seekers? Anyone who voted Leave for that reason shouldn’t be allowed to participate in grown up elections or referendums anymore especially if they are from the North East where it isn’t really an issue.

It’s madness this whole situation, absolutely toxic.

Sometimes you have to separate things out to get a sense of perspective. The people trying to enter the UK from France are mostly asylum seekers who are refugees from war in North Africa and the middle east. Many want to get to the UK for family reasons, others because of language. Maybe some have heard that the UK system is more hospitable to asylum seekers but to be honest they'd be far better off heading for Germany or Scandanavia in that case. They'd avoid a difficult sea crossing and be treated far better in those countries. Many but by no means all of this group are Muslims.

Next you've got migrants from other EU countries who have no problem entering the UK because they have the legal right to do so. They aren't waiting in France unless they've brought their car and arrived too early for the ferry. Many but by no means all of this group are Christians, in particular Catholics.

Lumping these groups together doesn't help any sensible discussion because they're completely different in terms of legal status as well as likely reasons for migrating and likely length of stay. For example, I don't know of any French people who moved to the UK because the level of fighting in their home department meant they thought their family was in danger. They've nearly always moved for job reasons and for the experience of living in another country (particularly London which is seen as a world city).

I can't see why anybody would try to merge these two groups into a single immigration issue unless they were deliberately misrepresenting things to encourage racism or had fallen for somebody else doing that.

Same thing is true with all this stuff about paedophile rings. The most striking thing about the media obsession with 'rings' is that the vast majority of offenders act alone. When I say vast I mean that in any given year there are thousands of individuals who offend against children and maybe a few dozen of the gangs that target vulnerable youngsters to make money which is what most 'rings' do. Weirdly, quite often the people in these gangs/rings aren't sexually interested in children themselves, they're just prepared to stoop to almost any level to make money and will use kids in the sex trade because they are more vulnerable than adults. Arguing about the numbers of Asians and white British in the gangs is missing the point completely - anybody serious about reducing these crimes would be putting more focus on the individuals - they commit far more crimes against far more children.

The far right's merging of the two groups isn't about protecting vulnerable children, it's about linking selected high profile but rare 'ring' cases that involve criminals from Asian backgrounds to the far higher numbers of overall crimes against children to generate racist sentiments.

Yes that is a fair point I missed that he meant more Muslims than Christians but you are absolutely correct to point out that it’s not because we are being overrun by Muslims it’s because in the main the Church going generation are dying out. I also agree on the ridiculous comment, it’s no wonder the country is in the state it is when people hold these views.

Next Halloween I am home I’m dressing up as a Muslim as people seem far more scared of them than Zombies and Ghosts these days.

Next Halloween I am home I’m dressing up as a Muslim as people seem far more scared of them than Zombies and Ghosts these days.[/quote]
don,t joke about it. one of my sons mates who lives in a typical miss marple type village was shit scared the first time he got off the train in leicester and sam all those brown people and some with turbans on. he was 25 at the time.

What are the exact figures then?[/quote]


More than i thought,i'll have to revise my figures Yubep they've missed lots of towns and cities out. Thank god there are people out there like Sara Rowbotham eh ?


https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/h ... t-13450338


The court details are easy to find on the net..

Good job Catholics don't do that type of thing.... oh

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-44209971

Why does anyone bother about religion anymore? When anyone mentions it I just switch off. I only ever go to churches for weddings and funerals. Neither of which I want for my personal circumstances. There is no god end of. No matter what fairy tale you believe a rapist is still just that irrespective of colour or creed.

Or the EDL.... oh

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/c ... 31231.html
https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article ... -sex-abuse
https://politicsandinsights.org/2018/05 ... demn-them/
https://malatesta32.wordpress.com/2014/ ... once-list/
https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/3k74 ... r-17-years
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest ... EDL-leader