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 Post subject: JFK
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:57 pm 
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Now this is interesting.

Howard Hunt who was a long time CIA deniable operative and one of the Watergate burglars has made a statement on his deathbed. Hunt was described by Nixon as 'one of the horribles' made statements regarding the conspirators, the shooters, the motive and the organisation. He himself was one of the 'hobo's' who were arrested but not charged at the scene.

It is a matter of historical fact that Howard Hunt was involved in just about every post war CIA undercover operation, coup and dity tricks campaign so if there was a conspiracy then its an almost certainty that Hunt would have been involved. Make no mistake, Hunt was a very big player in CIA deniable operation.

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Son Of JFK Conspirator Drops New Bombshell Revelations
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet


As the explosive revelation of E. Howard Hunt's deathbed confession, in which the former CIA agent and Watergate conspirator admits that he was part of a CIA conspiracy to assassinate JFK, continues to rage across the Internet, the establishment media remains almost mute on what is undoubtedly one of the biggest stories of the decade.
Hunt was first made aware of what his father knew about the events of November 22nd 1963 when he came into receipt of hand-written memos that outlined the birth of the plot to kill JFK in Miami where it was discussed that a coup needed to take place in order to topple Kennedy and save the CIA from being splintered into a thousand pieces, as JFK had promised. Saint John then opened his mailbox one January morning in 2004 to discover an unlabeled cassette tape on which his father details the identity of the individuals that were involved in the actual assassination of JFK.

E. Howard Hunt names numerous individuals with both direct and indirect CIA connections as having played a role in the assassination of Kennedy, while describing himself as a "bench warmer" in the plot. Saint John Hunt agreed that the use of this term indicates that Hunt was willing to play a larger role in the murder conspiracy had he been required, but was primarily used in an oversight role. Hunt alleges on the tape that then Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson was involved in the planning of the assassination and in the cover-up, stating that LBJ, "Had an almost maniacal urge to become president, he regarded JFK as an obstacle to achieving that."

In the Alex Jones Show interview, Hunt reveals how Kevin Costner, star of the JFK fillum, had shared a mutual friend with E. Howard Hunt and had subsequently visited Hunt in Miami in the interests of producing a documentary film based on Hunt's knowledge of the plot. "Kevin Costner flies down and is introduced to my father by this mutual friend and Kevin just blurted out, 'so who killed JFK'? My father's jaw dropped and he turned around and looked at his wife and said, 'what did he say'?" "So the whole thing just kind of blew up in its face and that was the end of that," said Hunt.

Hunt said that Costner had become "somewhat of a conspiracy enthusiast" after having made the JFK fillum and was very interested in starting a project based on E. Howard Hunt's revelations. "What my father devised was a code and a key to give Mr. Costner the relevant information without naming the names," said Hunt, "He listed out a chain of command and a timeline series of events and things that took place along with the most important players in the plot."

Costner considered the information to be "dynamite stuff," but elements of the "Miami mafia" derailed the project and the documentary never got off the ground. Saint John Hunt also revealed for the first time that E. Howard Hunt thought that the Chicago plane crash that killed his wife in 1972 was not an accident. Investigators discovered at least $10,000 dollars in Dorothy Hunt's luggage, money that Saint John Hunt alleges was Nixon campaign funds used to payoff the families of the Watergate burglars to keep them quiet about the involvement of the Nixon White House in the Watergate break-in and cover-up.

"Later on in his life at one of these bedside confessions....tears started welling up in his eyes and he said, 'you know Saint I was so deeply concerned that what they did to your mother they could have done to you children' and that caused the hair on my neck to stand up - that was the first disclosure from my father that he thought there was something else going on besides sheer pilot error," said Hunt. Eyewitnesses reported that the plane exploded above treetop level before it had even hit the runway. Hunt said that "at least 20-25 FBI members," as well as numerous DIA agents were at the scene of the crash within minutes before rescue personnel had even arrived, and that this fact was attested to in a letter sent by the head of the Chicago FBI to investigator Sherman Skolnick.

Hunt cited numerous coincidences surrounding the aftermath of the crash, including Nixon's appointment of his henchman, Egil Krough, to the National Transportation Safety Board which investigates plane crashes, the very day after the incident. When asked about the photos of the "three tramps" that were arrested on the scene of the JFK murder but were later ordered released, Hunt agreed that they likely showed his father and the two other key conspirators. "As my father's son, every time I look at that comparison photo between the tramps and my father - it looks like my father to me," said Hunt.

Hunt also said that he was reasonably confident that one of the other tramps was CIA operative Frank Sturgis, who his father had also named as a key member of the murder plot. Hunt said that his father was not one of the shooters but was more of a manager of the plot on a command level, but was later "hung out to dry" by the CIA and the government.

Asked why Hunt became a willing conspirator in the plot to murder JFK, Hunt responded,"Within intelligence circles, he felt that it was an imperative situation that President Kennedy not be allowed to serve in that office for any longer because there was a lot of crucial things coming down, there was the Vietnam war, there was also the anger and the threats Kennedy had made to splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces." Hunt also said that his father eventually desired to become the director of the CIA and Kennedy was a direct obstacle to that goal. Hunt concluded by agreeing that his father's legacy was that of a patriotic American who was manipulated and twisted by people like LBJ and Nixon, later to be deserted and have his family torn apart by these same criminals.

E. Howard Hunt finally redeemed himself shortly before his death by blowing the whistle on the JFK murder plot, but now there is a fresh attempt to bury this information on behalf of the compromised and cowardly establishment media, who have afforded this bombshell story almost no attention at all while lavishly devoting coverage to the mindlessness of Britney Spears' comeback and radio host Don Imus' off-hand comments. Once again the responsibility lies with alternative media and the Internet to make sure E. Howard Hunt's story is heard.


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 11:08 pm 
Howard Hunt he's a....tit!!!! :grin:


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:20 am 
If you ever get a chance, go to the museum, the old Texas Schoolbook Depository, see if you reckon you could get those shots away.

I've been. No chance!! :laugh: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:15 am 
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For a couple of years my personal weapons was an L42A1 which is a bolt action snipers rifle. It's based on the old lee enfield and was/is a superbly accurate weapon. But even with that there is no way I could hit a moving target three times in that period of time from that distance, from that trajectory. Particularly when you are extremely nervous and snatching your shots. This for me is the key point; that Oswald was a lone shooter is simply not possible.

As a sniper the single most important factors are preparation and your breathing which needs to be controlled and calm. This weapon had not even been zeroed and we are expected to believe that Oswald achieved arguably the greatest feat of marksmanship since King Harold lost his eye with this rifle and after running up five flights of stairs.

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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 8:50 am 
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So you reckon he didn't do it, then :shock: :shock: :shock:

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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 9:18 am 
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
Pooliekev wrote:
If you ever get a chance, go to the museum, the old Texas Schoolbook Depository, see if you reckon you could get those shots away.

I've been. No chance!! :laugh: :laugh:


So have I Kev. When I raised doubts about getting off three shots to the woman showing us around, her classic reply was :"Well sir, if you have any information, I suggest you conact the FBI." rolfl


I hope you were dragged off the smart mouthed bitch?? :roll: :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:36 am 
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:
Pooliekev wrote:
Cornelius Atweasle wrote:

So have I Kev. When I raised doubts about getting off three shots to the woman showing us around, her classic reply was :"Well sir, if you have any information, I suggest you conact the FBI." rolfl


I hope you were dragged off the smart mouthed bitch?? :roll: :roll:


I got three "shots" off of my own. :wink: :grin:


Full face?? :wink:

Good lad.... :sweeeet: :sweeeet:


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 2:27 pm 
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I was in a taxi the other day when the Asian driver turned round to me and said "did u hear about that politician John F Kennedy smoking on a train". stpid stpid stpid


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 4:07 pm 
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Pooliekev wrote:
If you ever get a chance, go to the museum, the old Texas Schoolbook Depository, see if you reckon you could get those shots away.

I've been. No chance!! :laugh: :laugh:


thats rubbish anyone who says that hasnt seen the facts oswald was a good shot passed his marksman test in he marines the bolt action shotgun could have easily have got those shots off in the desired time no matter what the film JFK tell you its bollocks, bbc did a test with this old miletry duffer and he did it so a guy in his 20's would have easily made it.


the guestion asked is why the funny buisness at the autopsy and also it could all have been answered if mr zebruger the guy who filmed it had panned to yards to his right and got a clear shot of the grassy knol

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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Fri Jul 20, 2007 7:06 pm 
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Pooliekev wrote:
If you ever get a chance, go to the museum, the old Texas Schoolbook Depository, see if you reckon you could get those shots away.

I've been. No chance!! :laugh: :laugh:


thats rubbish anyone who says that hasnt seen the facts oswald was a good shot passed his marksman test in he marines the bolt action shotgun could have easily have got those shots off in the desired time no matter what the film JFK tell you its bollocks, bbc did a test with this old miletry duffer and he did it so a guy in his 20's would have easily made it.


the guestion asked is why the funny buisness at the autopsy and also it could all have been answered if mr zebruger the guy who filmed it had panned to yards to his right and got a clear shot of the grassy knol

What the hell has the owner of a cross channel ferry got to do with it?


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:06 am 
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Abingdon_Poolie wrote:
thats rubbish anyone who says that hasnt seen the facts oswald was a good shot passed his marksman test in he marines the bolt action shotgun could have easily have got those shots off in the desired time no matter what the film JFK tell you its bollocks, bbc did a test with this old miletry duffer and he did it so a guy in his 20's would have easily made it.



Says who? How about his direct supervisors in the US Marine Corps: These were statements given at the time:

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Nelson Delgado, Sherman Cooley, and James R. Persons served with Oswald in the Marines and saw him shoot. Here
is some of what they had to say about his marksmanship ability:

Q. Did you fire with Oswald?

DELGADO. Right; I was in the same line. By that I mean we were on line together, the same time, but not firing at the same position, but at the same time, and I remember seeing his [shooting]. It was a pretty big joke, because he got a lot of "Maggie's drawers," you know, a lot of misses, but he didn't give a darn.

Q. Missed the target completely?

DELGADO. He just qualified, that's it. He wasn't as enthusiastic as the rest of us. We all loved--liked, you know going to the range. (8 H 235)


Cooley said the following in an interview with former Rockefeller Foundation fellow Henry Hurt:

If I had to pick one man in the whole United States to shoot me, I'd pick Oswald. I saw the man shoot. There's no way he could have ever learned to shoot well enough to do what they accused him of doing in Dallas. (REASONABLE DOUBT, New York: Holt, Rinehart, and Winston, 1985, p. 99)



Incidentally, apart from anything else the weapon was a Mannlicher Carcano, possibly the worst rifle ever made. The italians actually attribute their loss of WW2 to this poor weapon. Look, I speak as a qualified sniper not someone who just read the books; the fact is that the man (or any other man) could not have done that feat of marksmanship with that weapon. Accept that and you have to conclude that there was at least one other shooter.


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:19 am 
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Mr I wrote:
The italians actually attribute their loss of WW2 to this poor weapon.
rolfl rolfl rolfl rolfl

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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:23 am 
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Hey, I'm not saying its true, that was more down to their penchant for white flags but that doesn't change the fact that rifle was utterly crap.


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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:26 am 
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No worry Mr I, my mockery was well and truly aimed at the eye ties (with a Mannlicher Carcano by the looks of it).

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 Post subject: Re: JFK
PostPosted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 12:43 pm 
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either way, I reckon JFK would have died of old age by now bbolt

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