The Labour group out of power after the council elections.

I’d like to see every local election open only to independent candidates who must live the in the ward. Once any of the Party’s get involved, the ‘Party’ always comes first.

I agree with Snowy but can't see it happening.
The Tory party is in complete disarray both nationally and now locally and the Labour party can't take advantage.
They're all blaming brexit but it is their own( both parties) dithering and incompetence over brexit that is to blame.
Other factors include austerity and the way the Tories are running the country.
In spite of all the Tory failings people have no faith in Labour and, like I've always said, the main reason for that is Corbyn, Momentum and front benchers like Abbott and McDonnell.
What a to do as Elizabeth Bennet would say.

I see Akers Belcher is trying to blame national politics. Nothing to do with the disarray in Hartlepool then?

I'm a Labour supporter and I'm pleased that our candidate on the Fens ward (Jim Lindridge) was re-elected.
Christopher Akers - Belchers has sez being a divided Labour group here in Hartlepool contributed to loss of seats.

Labour have lost control but unfortunately the Tory Councillors will always support them, probably the only Council where they the Torres back Labour on every vote.

Who are all these "independents"?
What do they stand for?
What political parties were they previously members of?
Who will they align themselves with come voting?

Have the potholes behind the mill house stand been filled in?
Has the Mill House bar been refurbished?
Has a professional caterer been appointed?

The Labour membership voted to oust him, but the Councillors kept him in office. I don’t even regard him as Labour.

Perhaps there is now a majority to oust him (CAB) before next May?

CAB has survived a vote of no confidence; some members still feel that for the good of The Labour Party he should walk away!

All fulla shit.
Vote for me promise u the world.
Council tax keeps going up.

[quote="Bluestreak"]Who are all these "independents"?
What do they stand for?
tories in disguise just to get your vote.

Yeah that.

It’s a sad state of affairs all round, how can anyone look at a lot of characters involved in UKIP and think ‘they are getting my vote’.

UKIP gained seats ?

In places like Hartlepool and Sunderland, staggeringly they did yes.

Yes I heard that too... unbelievable Jeff!

This is what happens when the party in power AND the opposition both present equally unpleasant options.

As unfit for purpose as they both are neither as an unpleasant as UKIP, I mean how have we reached this point;

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When the incumbent party is so awful as the ruling Labour Group and others would never bring themselves to vote Conservative they will look for a protest vote. Even though the UKIP brand is so toxic now they are an option for some. It was interested to note that nationwide the variety of non main three parties did so well. Combined they weren't that far behind the major parties. I don't think either that the Liberals should be so pleased with themselves. They lost a massive amount of seats in 2015, often by small margins. With the state of the big two parties at the moment it's no shock that they won a lot of those seats back but without making too many inroads elsewhere.

The Labour Constituency Party (the members) are asking him to resign today again. They asked him several months ago but he got a vote of confidence of fellow Councillors in his Party, but several of them have either been de-selected by the Party since and some have been voted out of office. He is actually criticising the Labour Party for losing control, I suggest he looks in the mirror.

Yes Christopher's losing the numbers game isn't he?
All appears to be lost; unwanted by the party, loss of power base, receiving lots of personal abuse with allegations of financial wrong doings on various message boards - - beleaguered me thinks!

I doubt he will go without a fight he earns a good "salary" from his roles.

His detractors are using "his incomes" as a stick to beat him with aren't they? Generally followed with a dose of "there only innit for em selves"

that's true. services getting cut but vanity projects might actually increase.

When your own Party membership wants rid, why hang about?
Unless you think he’s ‘misunderstood’?

No I don't think he's misunderstood; I think CAB, SAB, Kevin Cranney +possibly several others are despised by vocal groups/key board warriors of Hartlepools electorate. This passionate group of haters might be right, rumours of wrong doing /self interest have been circulating in the town for several years haven't they? Perhaps it's political enemies spearheading a gerrem owt campaign I dont know - perhaps better enlightened people may know and provide hard facts!

Just seen this on Arsebook. Just who are these new parties and their objectives....this may give some indication.

Ian Griffiths - Prospective Councillor for Headland & Harbour Ward
May 3 at 12:21 PM ·
As announced last week, the Democrats and Veterans Party are affiliated with the Brexit Party (Nigel Farage and Ann Widdecombe) for the European Elections.

I shall be assisting with handing out leaflets at The Ramp at the Middleton Grange on Sunday.

Just seen on Arsebook that the so called Independent Union and Conservative have joined forces in a coalition to run the Hartlepool Council.

So we now know what these "Independents" are.

The labour party cleansed itself of the remaining dodge pots yesterday with them all joining the Socialist Labour Party which was set up in 1996 by Arthur Scargill. It has 5 councillors in the UK are all in Hartlepool!

Also sad to see Hartlepool got a 5 minute piece on the 6 o clock about drugs in the town. Yet more bad publicity following Skint Britain.

Very depressing.

Am I reading it right that a group calling itself the Socialist Labour Party is going into coalition with the Tories in Hartlepool?

Dunno who'd be more incensed, Arthur or Margaret.

I read it as the Independent Union and the Tories as a coalition but given the individuals involved in moving from Labour to the Socialist Labour Party (SCABS and others)they may well side with this Coalition just to spite Labour.
You just cant make this up.
Unbelievable Jeff, Arthur and Margaret!

Sadly, they did not cleanse them, they flounced out.
The Labour Party let them run the town for years after they got rid of Drummond and said nothing. Not so much a cleanse as a light dusting of foo foo powder when they’d gone.

Featuring shane Moore. Whose had more political mind changes than he’s had drink driving bans... just.


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The Tories in Hartlepool are more of a family dynasty than a Party. Political opportunists.
As for the Socialist Labour Party’s new members, they’re the ones who’ve been running theetown and the local Labour Party for years before their unlamented departure from being in charge, hand in hand with the Tories, the only Labour/ Tory coalition in the country.
Now they’ve gone, maybe the local Labour Party will now be able to get back to proper politics after the Pantomime years.

Just seen a video of Nigel Farage at H,pool marina getting interviewed by Pam Gooderman of Hartlepool TV creaming her knickers in a stage managed interview supporting his party.
Interesting to note some of the people in the background look very much like some of our new "Independent" councillors looking very happy with Farages words.
Will this lot prove to be worse than the SCABs and their followers?

Highly thought of on here,did anyone get to shake his hand ??

Nigel has my vote at every opportunity.

You’d have to be fairly gullible to fall for Farage’s bluster. The man is chancer and an opportunist. When he’s questioned and something comes up that he can’t answer (nearly all of the time) he just deflects it by shouting about media bias, he did it yesterday on the BBC. The irony being the odious twat is never off our TV screens.

The people to blame are the current MPs strutting about Parliament, who are completely oblivious to the chaos they are causing both to businesses and the general public. Both the main parties are simply putting their own self interest above all else.
People are proposing to vote for Farage because they consider the rest of them to be a waste of space, ironically just like Farage.
I won't be voting because I'm not at home and can't be arsed to apply for a postal vote.
I'm glad really because none of them are worth the effort. From what I hear on a daily basis, I'm not the only one. People simply can't relate to the current crop of politicians.

The foolish referendum only happened in the first place because of self interest. It was always going to be almost impossible to deliver in reality by anyone, it’s fits nicely for Brexiters to blame MP’s and shouting about the death of democracy but this was always going to happen due to complexity of what was happening many of those issues were not even mentioned in the lead up to the vote. Farage has no plan for us actually leaving the EU his new party has no policies or manifesto apart from leaving the EU, what then? He’s no more than a chancer riding on the seat of his pants. Is someone as narrow minded as him really the person to lead the country into the unknown?

It’s as if people have completely forgotten about all the outright bullshit spouted by people like Farage that lead to Leaves victory, it’s amazing people like him are getting away with it.

I suppose it was predictable that as things have become more complicated the angry people who demanded a simple solution have got even angrier, dug in and are now demanding an even simpler solution. Brexit, in any form, was never going to solve the problems that most British people face. No deal Brexit would probably make things worse but the main issue for many has become whether the politicians listened or not. Failing to deliver a neat, simple cutting of the ties with the EU which included many advantages and no drawbacks at all is taken as proof that they didn't pay attention so now's the time to shout louder.

Farage is just a chancer who understands how to cash in on that anger. I suppose that's a step up on a racist thug like Yaxley-Lennon but it is still a sad state of affairs that, even after he legged it to the US to make a few quid peddling his crap to Trump's supporters and conspiracy loving loons, lots of people will actually vote for him.

I reckon Farage will choose somewhere like Hartlepool for his seat to contest at the next general election.

What a time to be alive.

Farage is a single issue politician at bottom - he's smart enough to know that his only real connection with public opinion is over the EU. He lost interest in UKIP after the Referendum and if Labour had stuck to its post-referendum, 2017 GE manifesto position and stuck to saying 'give us another general election and we'll sort it' a lot of the people who came back to Labour in the NE in 2017 would still be with them.

As it is, nothing can prevent a Brexit party landslide in two weeks time. Farage's hour has come again, helped in very large part by the intransigence of Remainers who are determined to prevent any sort of Brexit - including the one that Labour used to be (still are?) proposing.

Fanatics on both sides of the argument rule the roost and there's less and less room for compromise.

Both main parties promised to deliver brexit in their manifestos.
Parliament itself voted overwhelmingly to trigger article 50.
Now when they can't do the job they promised to do, they want to hand the nettle back to the electorate.
Where have any of the people calling for a second referendum told us that, this time, they will deliver what we, the electorate, have decided.
Even if they did promise to abide by the electorate's decision this time, who would believe them?
I certainly wouldn't.
We, who voted, took part in a vote. By taking part I am honour bound to accept the result or what is the point in taking part. That vote was given to us by parliament who subsequently ratified the result by triggering article 50. Now the same parliament, who now realise the job of delivering what they promised isn't the walk in the park they thought it was, want to pass it back to us, in the hope that, this time, we will overturn the first vote. What if we don't overturn it, what then?????
Politicians started it, politicians ratified it and politicians fucked it up.
That's why I lay the blame firmly on their doorstep.
Quite frankly, at this point, I would accept any result. In or out???? Either is better than the current pantomime.

Have you ever considered the Shake It All About Party Mr Derwent?

Only once Mr T. After thunderous shouts of WOW and almost every girl drooling and/or fainting, the other jealous guys threw me out !!!!
What was your experience??

Just got a mixture of sniggering, pointing and complete disinterest. Thought that was normal until now

Wonder whats this all about?
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 8dCVbbgM_I

Think Mike Youngs is a conservative councillor.

See page 40 for how this will benefit our community.
https://s3.eu-west-2.amazonaws.com/docu ... 155af863e3

Access Denied????

On "filing history" tab view PDF 42 pages.

Have you "adobe reader" installed on your computer?