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 Post subject: Re: Money has gone
PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 7:26 pm 
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Only a fool, Would defend him.
He,s walking away with a pocket full of dosh.


Not defending him as it appears he’s taken the club for a bit of a ride but if he’s walked away he won’t be due anything apart from any wages owed.


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It probably did happen but for him to walk off the back of one wag in a Fish and Chip shop (only at fucking Pools could I be writing those words :laugh: ) he clearly was looking for any excuse and he didn't have much stomach for his new role. That's not saying he deserved to be verbally abused, that it is totally out of order.

The Ineteresting thing is now after what was said the podcast about how important this role is with the challenges ahead how can they not replace him!?



Hewitson

Before he swapped roles with Higgy, I posted he was a southern Blagger.
Just saying.


He’s a youth team coach who with due resident has never played professional football what do you think qualifies him as someone who could be director of Football/chief of operations??


One of the worst things you could do imo, Is employ a expro as DoF, Higgy was there to watch the pennies.


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Only a fool, Would defend him.
He,s walking away with a pocket full of dosh.


Not defending him as it appears he’s taken the club for a bit of a ride but if he’s walked away he won’t be due anything apart from any wages owed.



Hope your right and we will never know, But i think it will be a lot more than his week in hand.
And he,s going to get it for insulting the club, The fans and the players.


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I think Hignett pulled the wool over Raj eyes saying the club needed one, being cynical it looks like he was looking after his own interests more so continually repeating he didn’t want the Managers job.
For me he didn’t want to put himself in the firing line knowing that the current squad are going nowhere.


On the basis that it was Hignett who is credited with getting Raj Singh involved, and both Hignett and Singh confirming that, and Hignett saying that he was at the club to protect Singh's investment, it would appear that you haven't got a clue what you are talking about.


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For whatever reason Higs has done a lot for our club, including calling out the previous regime and as said above, helping to get Raj involved. Also a good manager in my view - played some great stuff first time round and in the three games he’s had this season we looked more confident. I also like that he’s succinct - he knows words are cheap - he’s obviously passionate about football and sets the team up to win games. As things have panned out hopefully we’ll now improve on the pitch.


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He would be mad, to try and attempt to set this team up to win games. Playing 3 at the back with the current personnel available is suicidal IMO , but we shall see. Hignett alluded to his love of attacking teams on the podcast, all rather honourable, but he also said he had the players to play like that in 2015/16 , and lets face , he hasn't at the moment, and lets face it, in 2015/16 or whenever we still lost more than we won.

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352 or Higgys favourite of 3412 are the only formation that will work with this current squad.

Thankfully Hignett knows his stuff and can see this.

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I can't believe the one question that should have been asked hasn’t been asked by anyone, so I’ll do it myself. Which chippy?

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Its like the Daily Mail referring to a report in the Express ha ha

According to a report in the Northern Echo, Money has decided to walk away from his position as director of football at Pools.

Read more at: https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-9562005

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The bloke has pissed off and left us after boosting his own importance and boasting on his own record. He won one game in 8. He achieved nothing and has left after 44 days. And yet, people are still defending him.

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Because it's an easy option to attack the club.

The comment above about it being the same off the pitch now as last year is the final straw for me. Absolute nonsense and frankly insulting to the staff at the football club who were fearing for their jobs.

Will be much easier to read this place with blocks anyway.


Spot on!!!!


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Dalton'sHaircut wrote:
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The bloke has pissed off and left us after boosting his own importance and boasting on his own record. He won one game in 8. He achieved nothing and has left after 44 days. And yet, people are still defending him.

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Because it's an easy option to attack the club.

The comment above about it being the same off the pitch now as last year is the final straw for me. Absolute nonsense and frankly insulting to the staff at the football club who were fearing for their jobs.

Will be much easier to read this place with blocks anyway.


Quite unbelievable not just insulting to staff but to the couple of people who have parted with significant amounts of cash to even begin to put a sticking plaster over some of carnage caused. It's like some are choosing or don't realise what actually happened to the club.


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Has Money gone or not? Just I heard he was at the Blyth v Hereford game on Saturday

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Mr Horden, sorry, Dave Jones is my least favourite............




Anyway Brian, I want to know more about these hotels in Cheltenham and Sutton Coldfield :wink:


He started off in 'hospitality' starting at the Old Sun & Mill in Minster Lovell in 1989. Around 1993 he apparently ran his own business - a Michelin starred restaurant with rooms called Lovells at Windrush Farm - for ten years before moving to Hotel Kandinsky in Cheltenham and then New Hall Hotel in Sutton Coldfield. He then moved onto Hull City.

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Has Money gone or not? Just I heard he was at the Blyth v Hereford game on Saturday

On the official site gone and didn’t get or want any compo, another wage freed up.
It will be interesting to know why, if he left without a pay off he can say what he likes in future about his time here.


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So where does that leave the position that he's vacated ? On the last podcast it sounded as if he was going to be responsible for taking us forward for the next 5 years. Now all of a sudden we are grateful for freeing up a wage !
Will the club be seeking a replacement or is it not so important after all ?


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So where does that leave the position that he's vacated ? On the last podcast it sounded as if he was going to be responsible for taking us forward for the next 5 years. Now all of a sudden we are grateful for freeing up a wage !
Will the club be seeking a replacement or is it not so important after all ?


The main concern at the moment is to reorganise the Academy into a self sufficient body , And as i stated in a previous post
Hewitson is more than capable.


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How do you suggest the academy becomes self sufficient? It’s not something that can possibly generate enough income to pay for itself. On whatever scale it will cost money without outside funding from The Football League.


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I can't believe the one question that should have been asked hasn’t been asked by anyone, so I’ll do it myself. Which chippy?


This man deserves an answer........which chippy?

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How do you suggest the academy becomes self sufficient? It’s not something that can possibly generate enough income to pay for itself. On whatever scale it will cost money without outside funding from The Football League.


Well maybe i was hoping people could rally round with sponsoring events, Maybe allow the kids teams to partake in
Local Leagues cutting costs, Which would also allow our coaches to keep an eye on local talent.

Maybe even MMagurie could find a deal.

Who knows, But something have to be done otherwise a lot of decent kids will go elsewhere or nowhere.


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The board of Hartlepool United can confirm that Richard Money has left the Club.

Following discussions on Monday, Richard made it clear he didn’t want to burden the Club with additional cost and offered to cancel his contract. It was therefore mutually agreed that Richard should be released from his contract.

During his time here, Richard assisted in a number of player signings, which we believe will be of benefit to the Club this season for which we are grateful.

Raj Singh commented “Whilst we are disappointed, I would like to thank Richard for his honesty. I respect Richard’s integrity and the fact that he didn’t wish to further financially burden the Club and wish him all the very best for the future”

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How much does it cost to run the academy?
When we know that a judgement can be taken as to if it could ever be self sufficient?(or partly)

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PJPoolie wrote:
How do you suggest the academy becomes self sufficient? It’s not something that can possibly generate enough income to pay for itself. On whatever scale it will cost money without outside funding from The Football League.


How much does it cost to run?

Maybe a regulated supporters body could invest in exchange for a stake in the club


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PJPoolie wrote:
How do you suggest the academy becomes self sufficient? It’s not something that can possibly generate enough income to pay for itself. On whatever scale it will cost money without outside funding from The Football League.


How much does it cost to run?

Maybe a regulated supporters body could invest in exchange for a stake in the club


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They need to be looking at the Lottery to see if they can get a grant but need some one with the ability to put a decent case forward for a grant.


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We have to face up to reality we are a non league club and the only way we are going to compete in this league is spend what we have on the first team, you can have only what you can afford that is our current situation.
Getting back to the football league has to be our primary target.


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The academy can only be self sufficient if you're going to play the youngsters, the end goal is obviously to sell them on. Hignett has a record of giving kids games, if we can bring 1 or 2 through a season and sell 1 on hopefully it would be enough to make it self sufficient.


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I wouldn't think twice about closing the Academy personally, many clubs function without one even Championship sides, we have 3 big clubs on our doorsteps and more big ones just over an hours drive away, we should be investing the money in to better scouting and coaching. We could still have the philosophy of signing younger players to eventually sell them on, but we need the right coaching in place to achieve this.


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Academies can be self funding. You get grants per pupil and they do college courses as part of that.
Darlo set up their new academy last season and, bearing in mind it costs to set up, it should break even this year and show a profit next year.
Considering your set up is there already I can't see a problem.
You just have to look at the MGFA as an example. Thats been a good earner for Gray and all it had was a connection with DFC and now Darlington Town FC, yet officially its an independent company.


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I wouldn't think twice about closing the Academy personally, many clubs function without one even Championship sides, we have 3 big clubs on our doorsteps and more big ones just over an hours drive away, we should be investing the money in to better scouting and coaching. We could still have the philosophy of signing younger players to eventually sell them on, but we need the right coaching in place to achieve this.


The chairman has committed to funding it next season it’s something they want to keep in place.


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The board of Hartlepool United can confirm that Richard Money has left the Club.


A nation mourns....... or probably not.

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Academies can be self funding. You get grants per pupil and they do college courses as part of that.
Darlo set up their new academy last season and, bearing in mind it costs to set up, it should break even this year and show a profit next year.
Considering your set up is there already I can't see a problem.
You just have to look at the MGFA as an example. Thats been a good earner for Gray and all it had was a connection with DFC and now Darlington Town FC, yet officially its an independent company.


Thanks for that LoneStar, i thought i seen that somewhere.
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With due respect you are talking about two different things, setting up an academy is slightly different to inheriting one that is still operating like it’s at a football league club. The chairman has committed to support it financially for the next 12 months. If we don’t get promoted next season then it’s going to have to be either scrapped altogether, but that isn’t part of the clubs philosophy, or its going to have to be completely restructured/scaled back.


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With due respect you are talking about two different things, setting up an academy is slightly different to inheriting one that is still operating like it’s at a football league club. The chairman has committed to support it financially for the next 12 months. If we don’t get promoted next season then it’s going to have to be either scrapped altogether, but that isn’t part of the clubs philosophy, or its going to have to be completely restructured/scaled back.



"completely restructured/scaled back"

And Hewitson is just the man to do it.

Thank you for agreeing with me.


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This forum has become like a humorless, more childish version of the old Rivals site.


And you get more sun affected by the day, stay out of it man and wear sunscreen you crazy bastard :dance:

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This forum has become like a humorless, more childish version of the old Rivals site.



Childish really, Humorless really, Headup a camel,s arse really.

Get a grip man, Its not as though anyone is accusing you of spying, lol


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This forum has become like a humorless, more childish version of the old Rivals site.


And you get more sun affected by the day, stay out of it man and wear sunscreen you crazy bastard :dance:



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What about the one next to Seaton Baths 46/1

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So how long do you’s think Raj is going to keep funding us before he thinks this isn’t enough this isn’t going anywhere? I mean respect to the man in the first place he saved our club along with Geoff but there’s only so much money he can put in before he thinks, Enough is enough I’m off, I mean he’s a buisiness man and afterall buisiness men are in the game purely to make money, Then if he does go and has had enough we will be back to being potless and players and staff not being payed again and looking for a buyer for our club where to be honest I don’t think they will be that many offers, Hopefully Raj is here long enough to get us back in the Football League.


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So how long do you’s think Raj is going to keep funding us before he thinks this isn’t enough this isn’t going anywhere? I mean respect to the man in the first place he saved our club along with Geoff but there’s only so much money he can put in before he thinks, Enough is enough I’m off, I mean he’s a buisiness man and afterall buisiness men are in the game purely to make money, Then if he does go and has had enough we will be back to being potless and players and staff not being payed again and looking for a buyer for our club where to be honest I don’t think they will be that many offers, Hopefully Raj is here long enough to get us back in the Football League.


I would imagine he is looking for a way out now Smithy. Hignett is last desperate throw of the dice, it that doesn't work out, he has to sack one of is mates ( yes him who looks after his money ) . Timescale? I would say this time next year. A lot depends on who Hignett gets rid off and who he brings in during the summer, will it be poor players out and worse/cheaper ones in or will it be poor players out and better ones brought in, I would go for the former myself. Whether Hignett has the balls to get rid of his loyal lieutenants Magnay and Featherstone will be an indication of how things may pan out in future, my guess is they will be staying, James is another one, and Loach. We are sleepwalking towards the NLN , forget about a return to the FL for now. We haven't a pot to piss in, we will be downsizing in every way, as will the town itself once Brexit kicks in, there is no money anywhere to suggest things will improve, they won't. Unless things drastically change of the pitch and unless the personnel are changed I cant see that it will , we will eventually become a club that yo-yos between the NL and NLN , like Barrow for example.

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Trouser tent when typing that?

Comical stuff really, all yet again completely baseless.

I’m looking forward to the Town downsizing, are you going to move it to Peterlee or something.

That couple who have just won the £100 million on the Euro lottery have recently started reading your posts apparently and are now down in the dumps.


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Trouser tent when typing that?

Comical stuff really, all yet again completely baseless.

I’m looking forward to the Town downsizing, are you going to move it to Peterlee or something.

That couple who have just won the £100 million on the Euro lottery have recently started reading your posts apparently and are now down in the dumps.




What about your trouser tent post's on the Darlo board when he was running our club Mr Sanctimonious ??


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Trouser tent when typing that?

Comical stuff really, all yet again completely baseless.

I’m looking forward to the Town downsizing, are you going to move it to Peterlee or something.

That couple who have just won the £100 million on the Euro lottery have recently started reading your posts apparently and are now down in the dumps.




What about your trouser tent post's on the Darlo board when he was running our club Mr Sanctimonious ??


The bloke is an idiot. He will be posting the same shite when we are in the NLN.

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Lies from Sussex.

Name calling again from Citizen Smith.

I feel sorry for you imagine having such a downtrodden outlook on life, why do you even go to Pools or live in area you clearly hate both. If the chairman did walk away it would be partly down to the poisonous negativity of people like you.


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Wrong Mr Deluded, it would be because, he never took notice of people like me. Thanks for the sympathy though, it is shit living around here, but I would rather this than live in boring Doha just to avoid paying taxes and not being able to watch in person the only thing in your life.

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horden wrote:
Smithy1 wrote:
. We are sleepwalking towards the NLN , forget about a return to the FL for now. We haven't a pot to piss in, we will be downsizing in every way, as will the town itself once Brexit kicks in, there is no money anywhere to suggest things will improve, they won't. Unless things drastically change of the pitch and unless the personnel are changed I cant see that it will , we will eventually become a club that yo-yos between the NL and NLN , like Barrow for example.
better to go with half the squad being part time along with the full timers. surely there are better local part time lads about than giving full time contracts out to sub standard players. even fitness could improve as part time teams do not look less fit than pools do.


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 Post subject: Re: Money has gone
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PJPoolie wrote:
Lies from Sussex.

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Best check your post's or delete them quick.. :wink: As for Sussex didn't all his hair fall out after you abused him ?? he must be nearly in his 80's now PJ. :(


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