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 Post subject: Strikers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:06 pm 
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We must be the only team in our league where not only do our strikers fail to score consistently from open play but they don't score consistently direct from set pieces either. On top of that they're not trusted with penalties either.
Unbelievable, Jeff.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:10 pm 
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Unfortunately, they just don't score. Oh dear.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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I think one of the main reasons is that we take far too long to get the ball into dangerous areas due to our laborious passing movements, allowing opposing defences time to get into shape. Their second goal today was conceded when we lost the ball after one such passing movement and they went down the other end and scored.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 6:25 pm 
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We must be the only team in our league where not only do our strikers fail to score consistently from open play but they don't score consistently direct from set pieces either. On top of that they're not trusted with penalties either.
Unbelievable, Jeff.


There might be a vacancy for penalty taker now.

All this and Davies out for another 4 weeks. My glass half full has sprung a leak.


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 7:53 pm 
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Muir is okay , but James is a disgrace. As for Davies , does anyone think he will ever play more than 4 games on the bounce? I don't and that's why I wouldn't of signed him, and ffs a 3 year contract. Grimsby get Danny Collins and we get Davies, though no doubt if Collins had signed for us and Davies for Grimsby the roles would of been reversed, fookin holiday camp is HUFC

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sat Nov 24, 2018 11:51 pm 
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As for Davies , does anyone think he will ever play more than 4 games on the bounce? I don't and that's why I wouldn't of signed him, and ffs a 3 year contract.


Yes, you're a real mister consistent you are, spotted Davies for a waste of money right from the off, didn't you?

Remember these comments from August 6th?

"In Noble and Davies we probably have 2 of the best players in their positions in this league, and that could be our saving grace as the season progresses"

"Davies was great a proper centre half"

Or this one from August 8th?

"Davies is an absolute rock at the back."

They're all you! So much for your crystal ball :-) :-) :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 12:09 am 
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It is dead easy to be clever with hindsight, have you nothing better to do with your time than to childishly trawl back through three/four months postings on this mb just to prove a point?

What a saddo - get a life.


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Trawling should be banned.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 7:12 am 
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
horden wrote:
As for Davies , does anyone think he will ever play more than 4 games on the bounce? I don't and that's why I wouldn't of signed him, and ffs a 3 year contract.


Yes, you're a real mister consistent you are, spotted Davies for a waste of money right from the off, didn't you?

Remember these comments from August 6th?

"In Noble and Davies we probably have 2 of the best players in their positions in this league, and that could be our saving grace as the season progresses"

"Davies was great a proper centre half"

Or this one from August 8th?

"Davies is an absolute rock at the back."

They're all you! So much for your crystal ball :-) :-) :-)


Is that the best you can do clappp I stand by those comments, when he is fit and under a decent manager, of course the posts relating to his fitness and my concern about Bates as manager you conveniently omit. You havent a clue, just come on here defending the indefensible, no ideas of your own on how to put things right, just picking fault with those who highlight problems and come up with suggestions as to how to correct them.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Sorry genius, I was just looking for the bit where you shared with us you that wouldn't have signed Davies - assumed it must have been around the time he was actually signed, otherwise it's like saying 'I never believed in Father Christmas' when you're no longer a child.

Full marks for trying to change the subject though. What solutions to Pool's current problems have you suggested then? Other than sack the manager?


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Sun Nov 25, 2018 10:36 pm 
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Trawling should be banned.

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Post Brexit i can see it will be a bit of an issue.

I predict we will be at war with our natural enemy Iceland within 6 months.
"Kipper war" is what it will be it named by the press but i think its just a smokescreen for the continuation of Austerity.

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
Sorry genius, I was just looking for the bit where you shared with us you that wouldn't have signed Davies - assumed it must have been around the time he was actually signed, otherwise it's like saying 'I never believed in Father Christmas' when you're no longer a child.

Full marks for trying to change the subject though. What solutions to Pool's current problems have you suggested then? Other than sack the manager?


Are you for real? Unlike you, I have better things to do than trawl back through old posts, but I'm sure I would of questioned his signing, if not, have that one on me, no way would I of supported a 3 year contract for a 35 year old though.

As for solutions , I've been putting forward names of players, formations, playing styles ,the fact we should be signing players who are fit and strong and 6ft plus etc for nigh on 10 years, and people laughed at my suggestions , we were in league 1 in those days like.


I repeat , what solutions do you have? exactly , none, just the usual lets knock out another tune while the titanic sinks, you were the same last season and the one before that and the one before that and …...

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Smokin Joe wrote:
It is dead easy to be clever with hindsight, have you nothing better to do with your time than to childishly trawl back through three/four months postings on this mb just to prove a point?

What a saddo - get a life.

In any other walk of life it's celebrated. Politics, the law, etc, etc. Or is it that sometimes on message boards some people apply a playground set of immature rules. Conkers anyone?

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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Imagine my shock when reading that we had strikers!


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 12:19 am 
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Snowy wrote:
Smokin Joe wrote:
It is dead easy to be clever with hindsight, have you nothing better to do with your time than to childishly trawl back through three/four months postings on this mb just to prove a point?

What a saddo - get a life.

In any other walk of life it's celebrated. Politics, the law, etc, etc. Or is it that sometimes on message boards some people apply a playground set of immature rules. Conkers anyone?


As far as I’m aware football mb’s aren’t courts of law and contributors are not on trial for expressing views that may be contrary to those of one or two regulars who as horden references above, steadfastly defend the indefensible.

But God please forgive me - I am forgetting that this is the infamous Bunker where woe betide any contributor who puts their head over the parapet to criticise anyone in authority at the club - until such time that at least 12 successive defeats have occurred, the team is ensconced in the traditional end of season relegation battle, the Tax Man is hammering on the door and the Chairmans’ axe is poised to fall on the latest failing incumbent. Until then all previous posts are open to review criticism and ridicule. Who is therefore applying the playground rules - Hopscotch anyone? Amen.


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 1:00 am 
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We are like moneybags Man U, couldn't score in a brothel.
Mind you when we sign players you have to GOOGLE to find out info about them....
Sadly football is ALL about money, and we don't have much.
If only the amazing football player Raheem Sterling could donate 1 week of his salary, that would be a massive boost for us.


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Whilst money does and can help, there are NL clubs with part-time players and pitiful attendances compared to HUFC that manage to avoid relegation and bankruptcy. With our support and full time players some of us expect more than we are getting. If that is unreasonable I guess that I am unreasonable!


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Smokin Joe wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Smokin Joe wrote:
It is dead easy to be clever with hindsight, have you nothing better to do with your time than to childishly trawl back through three/four months postings on this mb just to prove a point?

What a saddo - get a life.

In any other walk of life it's celebrated. Politics, the law, etc, etc. Or is it that sometimes on message boards some people apply a playground set of immature rules. Conkers anyone?


As far as I’m aware football mb’s aren’t courts of law and contributors are not on trial for expressing views that may be contrary to those of one or two regulars who as horden references above, steadfastly defend the indefensible.

But God please forgive me - I am forgetting that this is the infamous Bunker where woe betide any contributor who puts their head over the parapet to criticise anyone in authority at the club - until such time that at least 12 successive defeats have occurred, the team is ensconced in the traditional end of season relegation battle, the Tax Man is hammering on the door and the Chairmans’ axe is poised to fall on the latest failing incumbent. Until then all previous posts are open to review criticism and ridicule. Who is therefore applying the playground rules - Hopscotch anyone? Amen.


How true. It was particularly annoying when the local press were exposing all the wrong doing of the previous owners and The Bunker just wouldn't listen. Dodgy agents? Not at all said the Bunker, just Dave Jones using his contacts. Owner running a string of shite businesses from above a barbers? Nothing wrong with that said The Bunker, Mario's is a fine establishment. Other owner has grabbed some cash and legged it? No, he is still at the club and using his real name all the time as he is proud of his blemish free business record said The Bunker.

Some people always look to give managers more time in the hope that stability will pay off while others are a bit trigger happy, again in the hope that it will help. Everybody gets proved right every now and again and everybody gets proved wrong a lot too. In the case of Pools, and most clubs without strong finances, predicting that a manager should be given more time or sacked and replaced will both end up with you being proved wrong because building a successful team on a shoe string is very difficult. It can be done but only by a select few and even then they can't always repeat the trick.

I favour trying to be patient because building the right sort of culture and squad takes time. I also think it can help the club to attract better players and managers. In a volatile industry stability and can count for a lot. There does come a point where you have to accept you've got it wrong and roll the dice again though. Whether we're there yet seems to be what the argument is about and posters catching each other out for old posts and so on is just part of that.


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Smokin Joe wrote:
Snowy wrote:
Smokin Joe wrote:
It is dead easy to be clever with hindsight, have you nothing better to do with your time than to childishly trawl back through three/four months postings on this mb just to prove a point?

What a saddo - get a life.

In any other walk of life it's celebrated. Politics, the law, etc, etc. Or is it that sometimes on message boards some people apply a playground set of immature rules. Conkers anyone?


As far as I’m aware football mb’s aren’t courts of law and contributors are not on trial for expressing views that may be contrary to those of one or two regulars who as horden references above, steadfastly defend the indefensible.

But God please forgive me - I am forgetting that this is the infamous Bunker where woe betide any contributor who puts their head over the parapet to criticise anyone in authority at the club - until such time that at least 12 successive defeats have occurred, the team is ensconced in the traditional end of season relegation battle, the Tax Man is hammering on the door and the Chairmans’ axe is poised to fall on the latest failing incumbent. Until then all previous posts are open to review criticism and ridicule. Who is therefore applying the playground rules - Hopscotch anyone? Amen.


How true. It was particularly annoying when the local press were exposing all the wrong doing of the previous owners and The Bunker just wouldn't listen. Dodgy agents? Not at all said the Bunker, just Dave Jones using his contacts. Owner running a string of shite businesses from above a barbers? Nothing wrong with that said The Bunker, Mario's is a fine establishment. Other owner has grabbed some cash and legged it? No, he is still at the club and using his real name all the time as he is proud of his blemish free business record said The Bunker.

Some people always look to give managers more time in the hope that stability will pay off while others are a bit trigger happy, again in the hope that it will help. Everybody gets proved right every now and again and everybody gets proved wrong a lot too. In the case of Pools, and most clubs without strong finances, predicting that a manager should be given more time or sacked and replaced will both end up with you being proved wrong because building a successful team on a shoe string is very difficult. It can be done but only by a select few and even then they can't always repeat the trick.

I favour trying to be patient because building the right sort of culture and squad takes time. I also think it can help the club to attract better players and managers. In a volatile industry stability and can count for a lot. There does come a point where you have to accept you've got it wrong and roll the dice again though. Whether we're there yet seems to be what the argument is about and posters catching each other out for old posts and so on is just part of that.


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 Post subject: Re: Strikers
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Barriewardrobe wrote:
If only the amazing football player Raheem Sterling could donate 1 week of his salary, that would be a massive boost for us.


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dstanley wrote:
Whilst money does and can help, there are NL clubs with part-time players and pitiful attendances compared to HUFC that manage to avoid relegation and bankruptcy. With our support and full time players some of us expect more than we are getting. If that is unreasonable I guess that I am unreasonable!

the extra attendances will only help if the right type of player is signed. all the others seem to have big fit lads with some pace in the side and defenders who can defend. suppose 23 other managers have got it wrong though.


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I too would love a little bit of stability on, and off, the pitch after the turmoil of the last few years. I know that frequently changing Managers, when whoever is appointed has little resources to work with, rarely works. However there is something seriously amiss at our Club. I don't want to change Managers (again!) but, bloody hell, I want the Manager to change.


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