Signed for Maidstone on Loan.

Strange one this, thought he could have done a job last week. Might not be training well so hopefully will give him a kick up the arse in that case.

Do you think Bates can judge that in a hour and 10?

I'm holding back until I see who his replacement is...

Nish

Hopefully he wont ever be coming back and Higgy/Bates can secure a replacement i.e. a proper centre-forward who actually makes an impact on the opposition.

Saw Bates on the Grand Central out of Hartlepool this evening - and I beat him over the Eaglescliffe bridge.

What is Bates' problem with Cassidy? Scared of him?

Hopefully he can do okay for Maidstone and come back and do job for us, Sort off like a Boydy situation with Boston, It also states on the mails website that he's one off our top earners.

Good luck to him.

My guess is he's on too much money to warm the bench so he's being pushed out. If he isn't starting g he's too expensive.

At this level, cant see him playing for us again. Whats the betting he scores tomorrow?

Watch him score a Hatrick lol, I had a feeling he would go out on Loan we have 4 strikers to choose from.

Sorry, but I never rated him. He didn't appear to be that motivated, just went out and went through the motions for me, maybe he just didn't want to be here.

Wasn't he one of players told they could go in the summer? At the same time as Newton & Donaldson etc

Can't say I'm bothered to be honest and given how Bates sets us up, he doesn't fit anymore. Bates would have to change the style of play which he realistically isn't going to do is he?

Hazarding a wild guess, 6 goals in 40 National League appearances for Pools could be part of it.

If Cassidy finally locates his shooting boots at Maidstone and comes back it's a win-win.

Er, no. Cos he'll probably lose them again on the way back.

What 'problem' ? I have yet to see him do anything of consequence, he hardly excites and just looks uninterested.

Probably on decent money, rather than sit on the bench or out of the squad and earn it pools saw a chance to get a few hundred a month back. Makes sense to me.

True.

Just checked.. there were 5 new team signings on the pitch for Maidstone on Saturday. Cassidy... was on the bench. Hopefully he can get into some form/ fitter by being more likely to play and train for a longer period. He's still an option if needed.

Not surprised he is sent out on loan? I'd guess Cassidy is one of the highest earners we have and as previously said on far too much to be a bench warmer.

Bates inherited Cassidy, he was a Harrison oops Paul Watson ops manager at the time cum agent signing. I wonder if Bates rates him? the evidence suggests not and he will be hoping the pair of grafters in Mure & James (sounds like a firm of Solicitors lol !) click. Maybes Batesy is hoping Cassidy goes there does well & is on fire after scoring at will for Maistone (being sarcastic obs there as Cassidy is not a g big goal scorer , there to do his job and create the chances for his strike partner to score. Maybes someone in L2 wants Cassidy in the January window & they want him fit? ) Cassidy is only on loan out till January, he may return raring to go & confidence? Only Bates, Hignet et al know the score on him? I reckon newton will be sent out next and Hawkins. No ressies this year either so loans with 24h reca;;s way to go & get the other team to pay high % of wages or even all?

Not surprised he is sent out on loan? I'd guess Cassidy is one of the highest earners we have and as previously said on far too much to be a bench warmer.

Bates inherited Cassidy, he was a Harrison oops Paul Watson ops manager at the time cum agent signing. I wonder if Bates rates him? the evidence suggests not and he will be hoping the pair of grafters in Mure & James (sounds like a firm of Solicitors lol !) click. Maybes Batesy is hoping Cassidy goes there does well & is on fire after scoring at will for Maistone (being sarcastic obs there as Cassidy is not a g big goal scorer , there to do his job and create the chances for his strike partner to score. Maybes someone in L2 wants Cassidy in the January window & they want him fit? ) Cassidy is only on loan out till January, he may return raring to go & confidence? Only Bates, Hignet et al know the score on him? I reckon newton will be sent out next and Hawkins. No ressies this year either so loans with 24h reca;;s way to go & get the other team to pay high % of wages or even all?

Apparently he's one off our "top earners" as the mail described him when I was reading the article about him going, I think hel be going on a journey in January myself I think he isn't Bates cup off tea why would he sign Dinunga? If i where Cassidy and there was 3 strikers at the club already including him and they brought Dinunga in it wouldn't exactly help Cassidy's Confidence, Anyway my guess is hel be off in January it will benefit him and us in reducing the wage Bill when we aren't using him.

Bates not rate him? Cassidy was an ever present in the starting 11 when Bates took over last season - not that the manager was spoiled for alternatives. Cass played his part in the turn around that kept Pools up and got through a ton of work as a lone striker - but only scored one goal.

At the start of this season Matty Bates tried to accommodate him in a 3 man attack, but when that didn't work out it was him that dropped out - a no brainer because James and Muir both have more to offer than Cass does. It's a bit strange that he's not been making the subs bench since, but Pools' subs don't get a lot of minutes on the pitch anyway, so a loan move makes sense.

Others will doubtless disagree but having witnessed all of Pools home games it seems obvious to me that we are lacking a decent striker. Muir and James cannot be faulted for their ceaseless effort and although Muir will notch the odd goal and probably end up with 12-15 for the season this is insufficient for the club to mount a serious promotion push. He may have been called up for England C but James sadly doesn’t appear to have an end product at present. Dinenga surely cannot be regarded as a first choice striker just yet - he looked like a little boy lost when he came on against Eastleigh.

Although it pains me to say it as i don’t rate the guy, Bates may have made his first gaffe of the season in allowing Cassidy to jon one of Pools rivals even until January. He has done next to SFA during his Pools career to date but even Cassidy has more presence than young Dinenga.

If Muir is ruled out for Saturday it will be interesting to see what Bates does - after tonight’s setback it is vital that the side bounces back against the Shots who will like all visitors to the Vic before them doubtless park the bus and await the inevitable defensive gaffe that will earn them at least a point as a result of the home side’s inability to kill off the opposition. Deja vu awaits fellas.

From the BBC their goal came from a Cassidy shot which rebounded. Either way seems a good thing he is playing and getting game time. If he does well he comes back if not we have list nothing

If Muir is going to be out for a few games we need to get Cassidy back, because after watching Dinanga last night, there's no way he (Dinanga) can be given a run in the side.

A little bit harsh maybe on Dinnanga the kid has had about an hour of football in 5 and 10 minutes spurts until last night when he was thrown in against probably the strongest team in the League with no reserve football do people expect him to be at his best or match sharpest or most confident? Surely the lad deserves more of a chance than that before he’s judged?

We can’t recall Cassidy until he’s been at Maidstone at least a month anyway.

dinanga showed a lot of effort last night but thats about all. what do you expect though lumping balls forward to a lad who was dwarfed by a centre half who was certainly not the biggest in the league. i know some do not agree with me but we do need someone with a more physical presence up there.

Cassidy is not coming back before January according to Bates in the mail.

You need to see him PJ, not what is required, first touch is clumsy and a lot of bluster with no end result, akin to James in that respect and fans who think `running their socks off` is going to achieve anything are deluded.

I did see him a bit. A players touch can be off when they aren’t match fit or sharp he’s hardly had any football last night was his longest outing by some distance I’m not sure you can ever judge any player on three quarters of a game. Burton seem to rate him and he’s scored plenty of goals in the last two years. Also maybe the system means the strikers have a tough job that isn’t playing to their strengths?

I’m not saying that Dinenga hasn’t got potential but it is unfair on the lad to expect him to lead the line at this stage of his development. The current spate of injuries is serving to highlight the weaknesses of Bates’ small squad. Unless Muir’s injury turns out to be a minor knock he should be given every opportunity to make a full recovery and not be rushed back into the side as a result of to a dubious calculated risk by Bates in permitting an experienced (albeit ineffective) striker to go out on loan without adequate cover being available.

There is of course the potential for a miracle to occur with a fully fit Luke Williams throwing away his crutches and pulling on a strikers shirt to take his place alongside his namesakeupfront. If not Bates may be best advised to get on the blower to his Borer buddies and pick up one of their more talented kids for a month or so. It is fair to say that the true test of managerial qualities is how adversity is handled not when everything is ticketty-boo.

I judged him the first time I saw him , and nothing has changed, 10 or so substitute appearances later. He is too lightweight and not a very good footballer. In his defence and mine, I always say a player should be given at least 6 full games to prove themselves , he hasn't, but I think that has been a blessing. Dinanga isn't even National League standard IMO. Dinanga probably only makes cameo appearances so as not to upset Burton, in many of the games Hawkes would of been a much better option.

Dinanga seems to have a lot of pace but we've had strikers like that before. Doesn't mean he'll be any good. Hope the kid proves me wrong like. For me, the other strikers we have (excluding Cassidy) would be good enough if we created chances for them - they seem to be playing too wide trying to create their own chances at the minute.

I love you horden.

The lad has played up until Tuesday 75 minutes of Football over 7 sub appearances and people are commenting about his touch being a bit off, after the game when he nearly doubled his time on the pitch it still only adds up to one and a half games nowhere near enough to make a fair judgement. Jake Cassidy has featured more in terms of minutes and he’s hardly been involved since the second week of the season. If he still doesn’t look up to it after a decent amount of game time then fair enough. This is where no reserve team football could hit us a bit in terms of lads coming in being off the pace.

Fucking hell you've suddenly got plenty to say for yourself.

Dinanga couldn`t lead a conga line.

I love you as well PJ.

As I said, I believe every player should be given a run of six games at least , but you can't use lack of match practice as an excuse for his failure to make a tackle, win a header, beat a man, he hasn't got one attribute I know of. I do agree though that not having a reserve team can only hinder Dinanga. He did score in the behind closed doors game with Boro, so there is some evidence had we a reserve side he would get on the scoresheet regularly and maybe take that confidence into the first team.

You can use a lack of match practice as an excuse for just about all of those things. Games bring match fitness, sharpness and confidence. Confidence maybe being the biggest issue for a younger player trying to make his way. We’ve seen young lads on the periphery get hammered by terrace experts at the Vic on the back of the odd sub appearance and go on to have decent careers in the past, Jermaine Easter immediately springs to mind.

I judged Easter was shit after 5 minutes in the first game he appeared in and am really proud of it.

Yes i thought he was shite too but the manager/club kept persevering with him as they saw he had something.
Luckily (for him) he went elsewhere and got the break he deserved.
I just wonder how many good players we have had through our hands that didnt get the break and ended up on the scrap heap.
Football can be cruel.

Difference with Easter was that he did get in the positions to score, his finishing was woeful at the time and he was a bit lightweight, but with decent coaching there was potential to improve, and he did , just not at Pools.

Dinanga has nothing to offer, you can just see it, though not starting games, and playing in a traditional front two doesn't help his cause.

I thought Sydney Schmeltz looked good when he first came on.

Was that him who would dribble around 4 or 5 players, then either beat himself or give the ball away?

Yep i thought he was quite entertaining...............i dont think he "made" it after being released by Pools.

I saw him in Asda wearing leather trousers, from that point I knew his days were numbered.

He credited for 2 assists and one yellow card presumably for the leather trousers.