Adam Johnson

verbalkint · **Joined:** Thu Dec 20, 2007 9:08 pm **Posts:** 3135

Wanting to join pools after his release from prison

It's in the Sun so bit must be true

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/7324948/ ... ol-united/

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

What an absolutely disgusting rag that newspaper is, that entire article is utter bollocks. Gutter press.

I’m not fan of what Johnson did he was an absolute idiot but he’s hardly a ‘convicted paedophile’ either is he!?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Gunna be a fun thread this one

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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Ps no thanks

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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

It’s back to the old thing is if someone makes one mistake should his life be over? I can see both sides of the coin. Like a said I think he was a total idiot to get involved but at the same time if he was not in the public eye I’m not sure his sentence would have been so severe. Lee Hughes killed someone and resumed his career after serving time, Bob Newton did at Pools. Then we had the whole Ched Evans saga.

To be fair before anyone goes overboard either way it’s an article in The Sun which uses quotes from ‘an insider’ which almost certainly mean the quotes have been made up by the person writing the article. The link does make sense though with his links to the Town and some of the people at our club.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19819

if it was not in the sun i might believe it. for me he has done the crime and served his time and his life should continue once he comes out. same with all the bile directed at ched evans by some people who would want to rehabilitate ex prisoners back into society if it was not a footballer. same double standards where johnson is concerned will come out for sure.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

If you ran a business though with strong family ethics (like a football club should have at the heart of community) and a reputation to uphold would you employ him?

It’s not an easy one and I can see both sides. It would take the heat off Liam Noble a bit in the oppositions panto villian stakes certainly.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

It wouldn't just be chanting, he'd undoubtedly be targeted by opposition players and it would be funny to see Pools fans cheering a two footed lunge on him. There also may be the issue of his own team mates not being happy about it, particularly those with children themselves.

As for PJ's comment of "he’s hardly a ‘convicted paedophile’", I'd argue that's exactly what he is. He was convicted of grooming and sexually assaulting a minor wasn't he?

Conviction aside, the lads an arrogant prick and I'd be surprised if there was any remorse. Just to clarify, it's a no from me.

Also, he'll also be on a register presumably, would he be allowed in a football ground with kids in?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

A peodophile is someone with a mental disorder that makes them sexually attracted to pre pubesant children. Johnson by no definition is that. This is from the case “Each of the psychologists that examined Johnson concluded that he needed treatment but that he did not pose a significant risk to children”

This is in no way defending him or his actions by the way it’s just stating fact.

I can understand anyone who has the view that Mr Crab and Phil have to be honest I’m probably more towards that view myself. But let’s not get carried away about an article in The Sun.

Kolley Kibber · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:01 pm

The bit about him being good friends with Bates is true, as we were all in the same Middlesbrough team together from the age of 8 or 9. I don't think Bates would be stupid enough to take the risk though, not worth the adverse publicity or the distraction it would cause.

MutleyRules · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 12:03 pm

No chance and a load of shite from The Sun!!!!

shilts · **Joined:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:32 pm **Posts:** 1573

phil wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

If you ran a business though with strong family ethics (like a football club should have at the heart of community) and a reputation to uphold would you employ him?

It’s not an easy one and I can see both sides. It would take the heat off Liam Noble a bit in the oppositions panto villian stakes certainly.

First, let's establish what Johnson actually did. Johnson started communicating with a 15 year old girl over Facebook. He knew her age. He then gave her signed Sunderland shirts and took him out in his car, before kissing her. This is text book grooming and child sexual exploitation. He has used his power and influence to have a relationship girl under the age of consent. There is no ambiguity at all, he pleaded guilty to two of the charges.

Second, let's be clear it is completely untrue that Johnson would be allowed to come out and live a "normal" life if he had another job. He will need to be assessed by social services upon his release to determine whether he can have contact with his daughter. There is a chance his contact will have to be supervised, if the mother allows any contact at all. There are loads of jobs he wouldn't be allowed to return to, because he is a risk to children. The argument that he has "served his time" is completely irrelevant.

Why should he be allowed to return to football? He's going to spend his Saturdays surrounded, literally, by teenagers watching him play. He would have the exact same power and influence he misused in the first place.

This isn't about rehabilitation or winning football matches. This is about keeping people safe from predators like Adam Johnson.

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Can't argue with any of that.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19819

know it was a different world back in the early 60,s but i know of one woman who was 15 when she met her future husband who was 14 years her senior and had nearly 50 years happy marriage before he died. the whole johnson thing is certainly not all black or white for me.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:27 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

A peodophile is someone with a mental disorder that makes them sexually attracted to pre pubesant children. Johnson by no definition is that. This is from the case “Each of the psychologists that examined Johnson concluded that he needed treatment but that he did not pose a significant risk to children”

This is in no way defending him or his actions by the way it’s just stating fact.

I can understand anyone who has the view that Mr Crab and Phil have to be honest I’m probably more towards that view myself. But let’s not get carried away about an article in The Sun.

PJ I normally agree with most of what you post on here, but you are really far off the mark here.

He is a predator who is sexually attracted to children ie under age. Nonces may serve their time but don't change their spots. They can't help themselves.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:28 pm

phil wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

If you ran a business though with strong family ethics (like a football club should have at the heart of community) and a reputation to uphold would you employ him?

It’s not an easy one and I can see both sides. It would take the heat off Liam Noble a bit in the oppositions panto villian stakes certainly.

First, let's establish what Johnson actually did. Johnson started communicating with a 15 year old girl over Facebook. He knew her age. He then gave her signed Sunderland shirts and took him out in his car, before kissing her. This is text book grooming and child sexual exploitation. He has used his power and influence to have a relationship girl under the age of consent. There is no ambiguity at all, he pleaded guilty to two of the charges.

Second, let's be clear it is completely untrue that Johnson would be allowed to come out and live a "normal" life if he had another job. He will need to be assessed by social services upon his release to determine whether he can have contact with his daughter. There is a chance his contact will have to be supervised, if the mother allows any contact at all. There are loads of jobs he wouldn't be allowed to return to, because he is a risk to children. The argument that he has "served his time" is completely irrelevant.

Why should he be allowed to return to football? He's going to spend his Saturdays surrounded, literally, by teenagers watching him play. He would have the exact same power and influence he misused in the first place.

This isn't about rehabilitation or winning football matches. This is about keeping people safe from predators like Adam Johnson.

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Spot on.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 1:31 pm

accrington fan wrote:

know it was a different world back in the early 60,s but i know of one woman who was 15 when she met her future husband who was 14 years her senior and had nearly 50 years happy marriage before he died. the whole johnson thing is certainly not all black or white for me.

Do you have any daughters Mr Accrington?

If so would you be happy to find out a bloke had been grooming then bucking her?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

poolieinnottingham wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

A peodophile is someone with a mental disorder that makes them sexually attracted to pre pubesant children. Johnson by no definition is that. This is from the case “Each of the psychologists that examined Johnson concluded that he needed treatment but that he did not pose a significant risk to children”

This is in no way defending him or his actions by the way it’s just stating fact.

I can understand anyone who has the view that Mr Crab and Phil have to be honest I’m probably more towards that view myself. But let’s not get carried away about an article in The Sun.

PJ I normally agree with most of what you post on here, but you are really far off the mark here.

He is a predator who is sexually attracted to children ie under age. Nonces may serve their time but don't change their spots. They can't help themselves.

I am only repeating what came out from the case I am not a psychologist or an expert people who are came to those conclusions that his behaviour wasn’t particularly linked to her age and he’s not attracted or a threat to children are. He’s an idiot and he behaved like a total arsehole letting his girlfriend young daughter and family down in a massive way but using words like predator and paedophile are a little out of context. He didn’t ‘buck’ her he kissed her in his car. Totally wrong still but he was behaving in a way it’s not uncommon for footballers of his wealth and from that generation to its a fine line. Look at that video of Ben Alnwick and Liam Lawrence when they were at Sunderland, that lass was 16. Do I think they had a much different attitude towards that lass and young girls in general to Johnson? Probably not.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

That 'quote' from Pools also doesn't sound like anything the club would announce either imo.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

PJPoolie wrote:

poolieinnottingham wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

A peodophile is someone with a mental disorder that makes them sexually attracted to pre pubesant children. Johnson by no definition is that. This is from the case “Each of the psychologists that examined Johnson concluded that he needed treatment but that he did not pose a significant risk to children”

This is in no way defending him or his actions by the way it’s just stating fact.

I can understand anyone who has the view that Mr Crab and Phil have to be honest I’m probably more towards that view myself. But let’s not get carried away about an article in The Sun.

PJ I normally agree with most of what you post on here, but you are really far off the mark here.

He is a predator who is sexually attracted to children ie under age. Nonces may serve their time but don't change their spots. They can't help themselves.

I am only repeating what came out from the case I am not a psychologist or an expert people who are came to those conclusions that his behaviour wasn’t particularly linked to her age and he’s not attracted or a threat to children are. He’s an idiot and he behaved like a total arsehole letting his girlfriend young daughter and family down in a massive way but using words like predator and paedophile are a little out of context. He didn’t ‘buck’ her he kissed her in his car. Totally wrong still but he was behaving in a way it’s not uncommon for footballers of his wealth and from that generation to its a fine line. Look at that video of Ben Alnwick and Liam Lawrence when they were at Sunderland, that lass was 16. Do I think they had a much different attitude towards that lass and young girls in general to Johnson? Probably not.

Not sure what your point is here, are you trying to say what he done was alright?
I don’t get your angle

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Smithy1 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:33 pm **Posts:** 570

It's disgusting what he did and he knew it was wrong that's the bottom line off it, But it's true what they say it takes 2 to tango, I have a friend who met his partner while she was 14 and he was 18 so in the eyes off the law he was a paedophile but I don't see him like that, They are still together to this day in there 30s.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

It’s fairly clear what I am saying if you read it.

What he did was totally wrong (which I clearly state in the post you have quoted) and deserved punishment.

But he isn’t a peadophile.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37558

A distraction, which would put pressure on the club and serve no useful purpose. Gossip. Bury the topic.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Hope the dirty Pedo never comes near our club

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

phil wrote:

I've got to be honest PJ, arguing that a man with a conviction of sex offences against a child isn't a paedophile is a strange line of argument. There's pedantry, and then there is applying dictionary definitions of paedophilia to a convicted paedophile.

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Yeah this.

I’ve read back through your posts PJ n I still don’t see what you are getting it.

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Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

Smithy1 wrote:

It's disgusting what he did and he knew it was wrong that's the bottom line off it, But it's true what they say it takes 2 to tango, I have a friend who met his partner while she was 14 and he was 18 so in the eyes off the law he was a paedophile but I don't see him like that, They are still together to this day in there 30s.

Jesus

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PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

phil wrote:

I've got to be honest PJ, arguing that a man with a conviction of sex offences against a child isn't a paedophile is a strange line of argument. There's pedantry, and then there is applying dictionary definitions of paedophilia to a convicted paedophile.

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A paedophile is completely different thing to Johnston, if he was one it wouldn’t have been said in court that he isn’t a threat to children. It’s not pedantry it’s the World not being all black and white. The Sun used the term to sensationalise a non story that they are using our club in because they have space to fill.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Yubep wrote:

Smithy1 wrote:

It's disgusting what he did and he knew it was wrong that's the bottom line off it, But it's true what they say it takes 2 to tango, I have a friend who met his partner while she was 14 and he was 18 so in the eyes off the law he was a paedophile but I don't see him like that, They are still together to this day in there 30s.

Jesus

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Well he’d know his Mam was about 12 when she had him, no wonder Joseph came out with that crap about immaculate conceptions the dirty bastard.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:42 pm

PJ stop digging man, he was found guilty of grooming and sexual activity with a child.

I wouldn't call myself an expert but through my job I know a lot about the consequences of child sexual exploitation and grooming and they are catastrophic.

This isn't some bewer he picked up on a night out, it's someone who he targeted and went out of his way to groom.

You've really surprised me on this one.

Smithy1 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:33 pm **Posts:** 570

PJPoolie wrote:

Yubep wrote:

Smithy1 wrote:

It's disgusting what he did and he knew it was wrong that's the bottom line off it, But it's true what they say it takes 2 to tango, I have a friend who met his partner while she was 14 and he was 18 so in the eyes off the law he was a paedophile but I don't see him like that, They are still together to this day in there 30s.

Jesus

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Well he’d know his Mam was about 12 when she had him, no wonder Joseph came out with that crap about immaculate conceptions the dirty bastard.

I don't follow you on this PJ?? What drugs have you been taking in Dubai are they any good? They must be by the sounds off it.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Why is it always Pools that are first linked with convicted sex offenders (as Ched Evans was at the time he was linked).

I'm actually more upset that we're thought of as the most likely destination than the miniscule chance it could happen.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

I have not once defended his actions what I am saying is based on fact, surely you can see the difference between someone who has a compulsive and dangerous sexual attraction to kids and an idiot like Johnston who fancied a 15 year old girl who looked in her 20’s but still pursued her?

He deserved to go to jail, he obviously had very little grip on reality, care for his loved ones or moral filter. He was a fucking idiot but he’s no peadophile by any definition. Blokes like him I think get this wealth and status at a young age that makes them feel untouchable and almost removes them from reality. Back in the real World this destroyed his career and life, rightfully so. He’s not Jimmy Saville at the same time either.

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 3:56 pm

I don’t know the ins and outs of the Johnson story.

Did he shag her or not?

And if not then why not?

Was it because he was caught before he did or because he realised it was wrong and stopped it? And if it was the latter is that why she then reported him?

PJ makes some good points about it not being all black and white but some people either can’t see what he is trying to say or they just want to argue with him and jump up to the moral high ground.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Her Dad looked at her phone which contained a two month long WhatsApp conversation with her and he took that to the police.

They had already met in his car and kissed.

But in some of the published messages it’s clear suggestion had been made about it going further. Pictures from to her him were doing the rounds at time and let’s say she did not look 15. But that doesn’t excuse him and he knew her age clearly from the outset but still couldn’t help himself.

Like I said his behaviour was disgusting and he deserved to go to prison, one of the worst aspects is that it happened when his girlfriend was heavily pregnant ready to give birth. I know as well that his parents had a business targetted and vandalised as a result.

But that is not to say he’s preditory or dangerous peadophile either it was stated in court that it was felt that he wasn’t considered a danger to children he is just someone with a high libido who thought he was untouchable.

Smithy1 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:33 pm **Posts:** 570

Mr Ripper wrote:

I don’t know the ins and outs of the Johnson story.

Did he shag her or not?

And if not then why not?

Was it because he was caught before he did or because he realised it was wrong and stopped it? And if it was the latter is that why she then reported him?

PJ makes some good points about it not being all black and white but some people either can’t see what he is trying to say or they just want to argue with him and jump up to the moral high ground.

"Did he shag her or not"

"And if not then why not"

Hahaha shitttt you didn't beat around the Bush there like lol

I think if he didn't get caught out he certainly would of shagged her.

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PJPoolie wrote:

Her Dad looked at her phone which contained a two month long WhatsApp conversation with her and he took that to the police.

They had already met in his car and kissed.

But in some of the published messages it’s clear suggestion had been made about it going further. Pictures from to her him were doing the rounds at time and let’s say she did not look 15. But that doesn’t excuse him and he knew her age clearly from the outset but still couldn’t help himself.

Like I said his behaviour was disgusting and he deserved to go to prison, one of the worst aspects is that it happened when his girlfriend was heavily pregnant ready to give birth. I know as well that his parents had a business targetted and vandalised as a result.

But that is not to say he’s preditory or dangerous peadophile either it was stated in court that it was felt that he wasn’t considered a danger to children he is just someone with a high libido who thought he was untouchable.

Very good point PJ.

yloop · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:49 pm

It's a non story anyway and all of this was said when he first got locked up. There's no debate here that can lead to anything even resembling a conclusion so just fuck this thread off and get back to celebrating a great win yesterday.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:54 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

Her Dad looked at her phone which contained a two month long WhatsApp conversation with her and he took that to the police.

They had already met in his car and kissed.

But in some of the published messages it’s clear suggestion had been made about it going further. Pictures from to her him were doing the rounds at time and let’s say she did not look 15. But that doesn’t excuse him and he knew her age clearly from the outset but still couldn’t help himself.

Like I said his behaviour was disgusting and he deserved to go to prison, one of the worst aspects is that it happened when his girlfriend was heavily pregnant ready to give birth. I know as well that his parents had a business targetted and vandalised as a result.

But that is not to say he’s preditory or dangerous peadophile either it was stated in court that it was felt that he wasn’t considered a danger to children he is just someone with a high libido who thought he was untouchable.

PJ a predator is exactly what he is. And by legal definition is also a paedophile. Doesn't matter how old she looked, she was a child at the time and he knew it.

Please have a read up about how teenagers are groomed by older men and what the consequences are, as you will need to educate your kids about it as they get older.

And don't think that because he targetted a 15 year old this time he wouldn't have gone younger next time. Moving alonv a sliding scale is common offending behaviour. Is 14 still acceptable? 13?

You seem to think they only go for pre-pubescent kids, but is fairly common now for many girls to start their periods at 9 or 10. Is that young enough for you to be worried?

He knew exactly what he was doing and I would be amazed if she is the only lass out there to fall victim to him.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 5:57 pm

yloop wrote:

It's a non story anyway and all of this was said when he first got locked up. There's no debate here that can lead to anything even resembling a conclusion so just fuck this thread off and get back to celebrating a great win yesterday.

I'm inclined to agree Mr Loop but I can't be doing with ignorance around this issue. It staggers me how many intelligent people are apologists for paedophiles if the circumstances suit them.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

poolieinnottingham wrote:

yloop wrote:

It's a non story anyway and all of this was said when he first got locked up. There's no debate here that can lead to anything even resembling a conclusion so just fuck this thread off and get back to celebrating a great win yesterday.

I'm inclined to agree Mr Loop but I can't be doing with ignorance around this issue. It staggers me how many intelligent people are apologists for paedophiles if the circumstances suit them.

You clearly are not reading what I am saying!? I’m certainly not an apologist for Johnston whatever he is and I’m a million percent not an apologist for Peados that is a fairly cheap shot. I am only going by what experts actually told the court in this individual case. Leave it their anyway but like I said life isn’t always black and white.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

poolieinnottingham wrote:

yloop wrote:

It's a non story anyway and all of this was said when he first got locked up. There's no debate here that can lead to anything even resembling a conclusion so just fuck this thread off and get back to celebrating a great win yesterday.

I'm inclined to agree Mr Loop but I can't be doing with ignorance around this issue. It staggers me how many intelligent people are apologists for paedophiles if the circumstances suit them.

This is something in these situations I always find weird. Parents aswell, n on some occasions women. It baffles me.

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ed-t-ball · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:16 pm

On the way back from Carlisle on the rasta day, the train went through Sland and the songs being sang about him were vile but not as vile as him or his actions.

Neither have a place at the Vic.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3377212/a ... ret-video/

Classy bloke

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 6:44 pm

Yubep wrote:

poolieinnottingham wrote:

yloop wrote:

It's a non story anyway and all of this was said when he first got locked up. There's no debate here that can lead to anything even resembling a conclusion so just fuck this thread off and get back to celebrating a great win yesterday.

I'm inclined to agree Mr Loop but I can't be doing with ignorance around this issue. It staggers me how many intelligent people are apologists for paedophiles if the circumstances suit them.

This is something in these situations I always find weird. Parents aswell, n on some occasions women. It baffles me.

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A hell of a lot of sexual abuse of children wouldn't be able to occur without protection from others, in a lot of cases the kids mothers. Never ceases to amaze me whenever I hear about it.

pooliecrab · **Joined:** Tue Dec 16, 2014 9:31 pm **Posts:** 6028

Rumour has it Johnson was part of a much more sinister, wider network who used something called CB radios to groom innocent young girls.

There you go PJ, surely linking him to your nemesis will help you stop arguing Johnson's cause?

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 7:48 pm

He was a Premiership footballer. If he had a high libido I'm pretty sure he wouldn't have struggled to get his hole with no end of attractive women.

Instead he chose to groom a 15 year old. Think about that for a bit.

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

I’m stunned this is even a discussion/argument. PJ, you should be embarrassed.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

bresslaw wrote:

I’m stunned this is even a discussion/argument. PJ, you should be embarrassed.

Embarrassed by what people twisting and misrepresenting what I have actually said?

Why should I be embarrassed by something I have no control over. I haven’t condoned any of his behaviour at any point, far from it, if people are reading what I have said differently then so be it continue with your pitch forks.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Sun Sep 23, 2018 8:39 pm

I don't have a pitchfork out for you PJ, I just want to challenge your perceptions.

There is a link on this to a PDF which isn't a pleasant read by any means but hopefully will illustrate what I'm trying to get at.

http://www.barnardos.org.uk/resources/research_and_publications/puppet-on-a-string-reveals-the-urgent-need-to-cut-children-free-from-sexual-exploitation/publication-view.jsp?pid=PUB-1454

Nelly · **Joined:** Tue Jan 23, 2018 1:10 pm **Posts:** 103

Sorry did I just see someone write 'it takes two to tango' in respect of Johnson and a 15 year old girl?

Jesus wept.

And a 15 year old girl may appear to be physically mature, but it's unlikely she was mentally and emotionally mature...because she would still be most definitely in that respect a child.

Seriously, some people need to give their heads a shake.

Smithy1 · **Joined:** Sun Sep 03, 2017 1:33 pm **Posts:** 570

Nelly wrote:

Sorry did I just see someone write 'it takes two to tango' in respect of Johnson and a 15 year old girl?

Jesus wept.

And a 15 year old girl may appear to be physically mature, but it's unlikely she was mentally and emotionally mature...because she would still be most definitely in that respect a child.

Seriously, some people need to give their heads a shake.

Yes I did say that, I also said that it was fucking disgusting if you read it properly, and I said again that if he didn't get caught he 100% would of shagged her its only that her dad seen the messages and went to the police that it didn't happen, Again if you read it properly I also said to I have a mate that first met his missus when he was 18 and she was 14, Now in the eyes off the law he's a paedophile but I don't see him like that, I see him as a cracking lad who would do anything for his family and his missus, They are married with children now in there 30's. It's 4:23 in the Morning I have 7 minutes left off my break at work and by no means am I spending anymore time reading this thread about Adam Johnston.

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