How’s that all going? Have we got our country back yet?

More chance of us having our world cup back, imagine saying that last year.

It’s fairly staggering Boris Johnson gets to resign from public office, a position he’s clearly not fit for and never has been.

It also made laugh out loud the other day when the truly odious Nigel Farage announcing that he’ll return to frontline politics if Brexit is delayed or not delivered!? He’s stood seven times for election to the Commons and failed on every single occasion! Ironically it’s only because of the EU that he’s ever been elected to represent anyone politically, and he was a main figure in misleading people into voting for Brexit. In the words of Danny Dyer; Twat.

David Davis replacement?

Now who is going to replace Boris?

Apparently after our government has "decided" how we are going to leave the EU negotiating team will give a view on it and will accept or reject it and then each of the remaining 27 countries individually can have their say to agree or veto. The 27 countries have an option of holding referendums on the issue.
At 42yo me thinks Laura Kuenssberg has a job for life.

Leo Varadkar the Irish PM threatens to stop British Planes flying over Ireland?

You never struck me as a Sun reader!?

Why do you believe anything they print, it’s a poisonous rag used to brainwash the thick.

Anyway today’s headline was sensationalist out of context horse shit;

https://www.google.com/amp/www.thejourn ... 8/%3famp=1

The arrogance of them,just look at them the meddling b......


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/20 ... -airspace/

All they are doing is highlighting yet another thing that wasn’t even considered before the referendum. It’s not a threat.

The arrogance and ignorance is Brexit full stop. It’s such a complex matter that it should have never ever gone to a referendum without all of the facts and everything it entailed being presented to the public. It’s an utter nightmare, Cameron’s head wants putting on a spike outside parliament for it.

I voted leave. I wish now we could turn back the clock and just leave things as they were. It's impossible to deliver it without just walking away flicking Vs which we can't do.

I voted leave and the only regret I have is that the politicians and snowflakes still think they can overturn it.

I voted remain but only because I've never tried a straight banana and I don't think they're for me.

It was always a hopeless task to try and negotiate whilst still in the EU.
I want out with no deal and no cash going to Brussels. After 6 months the real negotiations will happen!

PS If there is chaos at Dover, who cares as 80% of the lorries are from the mainland EU.

One of my concerns over Brexit is a renewal of troubles in Northern Ireland. The Good Friday agreement and the fundamentals of Brexit can't go together.

Ironically, the extra red tape likely to occur for businesses transporting goods to and from the continent will be troublesome. Extra cost, extra time etc.

The NHS will be under more of a strain as less EU medical staff will be here.

I haven't seen or read of a plan that fills me with confidence regarding what's going to happen after Brexit.

Several credible studies and reports suggest we will be worse off. I can't remember a credible study that suggests we would be better off.

Problem is Mr I, we will send white people back, not dark skinned folk, these will be replaced by more sweated labour, but they will be well, dark skinned

Your head will explode

And I'd rather by a snowflake than a gammon

https://thedadameinhofcolumn.wordpress. ... le-online/

You daft smelly c.unt

Trying to reason with that daft Darlow fucker is like trying to teach a dog a card trick

Not bothered what colour their skin is, I’m more concerned that we’re full but we keep taking people in. This is why you have an NHS crisis, a housing crisis, a school Crisis. In fact any crisis where demand exceeds capacity.

The first wave of EU migrants must be feeling the pinch .

Credible studies?..You'll have to ask PJ about them.

Really ?

Why is Mr I even talking about immigration? What has that got to do Brexit?

Have we got our borders back yet by the way?

That was all part of the con to get the thick in places like Hartlepool and Sunderland (were the vast majority of scum are white and very have small immigrant populations) to vote for it. The damage lies spun by damned bounders like Farage is incredible. If I had voted leave I’d feel a bit of a mug.

The EU is falling apart PJ .How do you think we should deal with this Blackmail gang ?

No, the EU isn’t ‘falling apart.’ If it was it would probably down to the shit storm caused by our government in failing to deliver the impossible promised by lying self interested arseholes the like Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage. If thinking this makes me a ‘snowflake’ then so be it but above all I find what’s going on hilarious but I think remain voters have far more reason to feel comfortable with the choice they made than a easily manipulated gammon like yourself who thinks the Sun is gospel.

What about the build up at Calais..not so many Lorries to hide in or chassis to cling onto.The French will be furious .

Pj your comment is a disgrace to the conversation, thick white scum really that is out of order and you should retract that statement and accept that if some one has a different opinion to yours they are fully within their rights to vote accordingly

I think you misunderstand my point, I am not calling people who voted leave thick or scum, some thick people were manipulated into voting for it in areas like the North East were the people who are the issue (the scum) aren’t immigrants as the population is largely white, are thick though and had no idea why and what they voted to leave or the ramifications of it.

Have they took all council houses in the North-East,they have down here..as well as all the jobs..Our local hospital employs lots of Fillipino's they're lovely smiley people. My dentist is South African.

You are like a character out of the Viz.

All Leavers are thick scum you've said it so many times PJ . .

No I haven’t.

What is it with these remainers that they think they have the moral high ground, and paint all leave voters as ignorant racists and xnophobes. Well I'm neither a racist or a xnophobes, I may be wrong in voting leave but we won't find that out probably for years. What I would like to ask the remainers is can they answer a couple of questions, first do they know represents them in the European Parliament, which party are they in and which parties from other countries they are aligned with when they vote. On immigration I agree we need skilled people to come to this country, mainly because a lack of investment in training in both the public and private sectors, but why are a lot of warehouses and distribution centres manned by people from mainly Eastern Europe, a lot of these people are highly skilled but are doing unskilled work, particularly in areas of historically high unemployment like the north east. The people who are now campaigning for another referendum are making it very likely that the E.U. will not give the U.K a decent exit deal as it is their interest not to give us a decent settlement, as n the past when people have voted against the E.U. a second referendum has taken place and the result reversed as in Ireland.

I don’t paint all leave voters like that at all, or take the moral high ground against anyone who made a considered decision why they think we should leave the EU. Unfortunately many who voted leave are as pig ignorant as Loid Blackwell though.

I don’t think a second referendum should happen I think it was ridiculous that the first one ever did and that Cameron misjudged the overall feeling of apathy which made a leave vicory even a possibility.

Aye, that's right Mr I. It has nothing to do with people living longer which equals more human beings which equals a need to invest/improve the healthcare/housing and education of those extra people does it? If you get rid of Johnny Foreigner (whoever the fuck they are by the way) and cut our ties with fellow human beings we won't be going backwards at all will we? 'We' don't need anyone else, 'we'll' stand on our own two feet, British and proud, stiff upper lip and chests puffed out.

Holy Jesus.

The Tories strip everything bare and sell everything off. Are the trains better now? buses? Are they fuck. They just want to sell everything off so they can sit back and milk the working man whilst passing all responsibility to the private sector when it all goes tits up.

My missus works for the NHS and I couldn't give a flying fuck how much government says it's investing because at ground level things are worse than they have ever been and beds / units are being removed/closed at the time when they are most needed - is that something to be proud of? How can anyone support that? Because 'you'll be alright Jack' because you're one of the privileged few? The Tories have never given a fuck about anyone lower than the middle classes and I have a problem with that. We're all the fucking same.

I don't normally comment on political threads as it achieves fuck all because peoples views are that entrenched they'd argue black is white rendering any genuine conversation a complete waste of time.

But today I have bitten because I had you down as an intelligent fella Mr I even if I don't agree with all your views, which is fine, but you surely can't lay the blame at people coming in to the country for our mismanagement of the health service, schools and education? It's because the Tories don't want to spend our money on it, maybe there isn't enough money, I don't know but if there are more people paying into the system (including the retired) and unemployment is apparently pretty low, where's the fucking money going? I'm not an economist and have no idea, but all I do know is, I am more skint and everything is getting worse not better. That's the government to sort, that's what they do to earn their money and I know if I was performing as badly I'd get sacked. It's got fuck all to do with how many people are in the country who were born in Poland. Fuck all.

Amen.

You said it brother. Still, who can resist an article guaranteed to annoy Mr I and the board's Remainers in equal measure?

https://novaramedia.com/2018/06/24/fina ... resist-it/

Well the exchange rate in the five years before Brexit fluctuated between about 105 and 140 Euros to the pound, currencies fluctuate always have and always will, in any case a low pound makes our exports cheaper. So your not bothered who represents you in the European parliament, and there is another problem nobody is bothered and hardly anybody votes in Euro elections what kind of democracy is that just let Juncker and his cronies do what they want that isn't any kind of democracy.
Why do you want to blame British people for not wanting to take crap minimum wage zero hours contract jobs,. You want to be having a go at the employers who abuse people from poor countries and the politicians from all parties who allow these kind of conditions of employment to continue and the free movement of people facilitates the abuse of desperate people who have nothing
and no safety net provided by the state.
We are not getting a good deal because the E.U. don't want us to leave and they see a second referendum as a way to keep us in.
Why are you remainers always putting this country and its people down, saying British people won't work and this country has nothing to offer,. I believe we as a country have a lot to offer. I think the E.U. will eventually implode when all the money ends up in Germany what happens then. Look at Greece it's bankrupt the E.U allowed them to join the euro when their economy wasn't up it but they fiddled the books to allow them entry and now they are run by beaurocrats from Brussels not much democracy there. I believe Italy are not very far behind.

Any of the Brexiteers got a view or solution to the Northern Ireland situation if Brexit happens? Or do yous not give a shiny 5hit?

If only us remainers were happy and positive about Brexit everything would be all fine and dandy. It's about as effective as clicking your heels together three times together would be. It's absolute stupidity to be walking away from the most powerful trading bloc in the world, and the damage it will do to our economy (and the North East will bear the brunt of it) will take decades to put right.

In this day and age there must be a solution to Irish border problem but may be one side sees this as way to stop the U.K to leave the E.U.
Nobody says that you remainers have to be happy or positive about leaving your beloved E.U. but the majority voted to leave and we should therefore leave and everybody should support that after all that is surely what democracy means. All these bitter remainers demanding a new referendum are giving Barnier, Juncker and their friends the hope that if they give us nothing a second referendum will give them exactly what they want, the U.K to stay in the European union. Nobody knows what's going to happen when we leave but I'm sure it's not going to bad as some people want us believe and not as good as others want us to believe.

So phil if there is a general election and labour / tory win with 35% of the vote is that ok and acceptable or should we just keep on going. AS for leave lying they were not government and could only make you aware of options. Leave spent 5.5 million in total cameron wasted 9 million of tax payers money on 1 leaflet and the information it contained didnt exactly pan out.

Democracy is ensuring there is an ongoing discussion and not shutting down those who question if this benefits the country. The 1st referendum saw pathetic political debate where both sides were ill informed. People are more informed about what leaving is and what the option will be when we leave against if we remained.

I was against a 2nd referendum initially but if we are edging towards a 'no deal' exit and the ramifications of that people will then have a real choice between the Brexit on the table and remaining as we are.

Both sides lied after all they are politicians that's what they do, Osborne told us that a leave vote would be so catastrophic he would have to have an emergency budget in July well that didn't happen did it. I think you will find that the remain campaign spent substantially more than the leave campaign on top of the goverment leaflets telling us of the Armageddon if we voted leave. Most of our governments over the years have received less than 40% of the vote so 52% of a very large turnout is at least a majority.
So if we have another referendum and remain win do we then say best of three, where will it all end, talking about a second referendum only gives the E.U a reason to make things as difficult as poosible for us.
For the record I did not think a referendum was a good idea, it's all a Tory party squabble really, but i was asked my opinion and after listening and reading the different arguements I voted leave.

Hotel California is being played a lot on the radio...........................

Same people have banged on for 2 yrs, suck it up buttercup

Suck what up? Nothing's happening and no one knows anything.

It's a farce.

The Mousetrap?

Two top posts there.

But were we meant to make the original referendum result in the 70s last forever? However the goalposts have moved that far since we initially joined that another referendum was the correct decision IMO.
If the EU hadnt become a bureaucratic mess of unelected people telling us what to do whilst failing to balance the books year in year out then there was always the chance leave would win. If the EU was just a trading bloc as originally intended the its highly unlikely leave would have won.

Sorry didn't Tessie May ring you. I got call last week after meeting at Cheques. Barnier and the corrupt drink sodden Juncker are getting told to fuck off .