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 Post subject: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 2:35 am 
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Has anyone ever seen him?
Dies he actually exist?
Is he really everyone's favourite dodgy Essex widebody GC ( that's Gary Foxhall not Gemma Collins)


Seriously is there such a person??

On that matter has anyone ever seen Paul Watson?


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:37 am 
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Unfortunately these people exist but it's a fair point to ask what they look like though, I don't.

Several people have snuck through the clubs back door in the last 18 months or so who we the fans have never been introduced to in any official capacity on the Clubs own website, in the programme or the local press or media. People who have helped preside over the possible demise of a 110 year club. It's pretty disgusting when you think about it. The first mention I remember of Duxbury and Blackledge was at Dave Jones unveiling press conference when he mentioned speaking to 'John and Pam' names that were new to a vast majority of fans. If it wasn't for the 'detectives' on here that's the first many might of learned of Sages ill fated involvement with the club. Then we have this Watson character who is at best is absolutely terrible at player and staff recruitment, the results speak for themselves. They have been good at selling a full team of players to other clubs which has left us in serious relegation trouble at the lowest level we've played for nearly a hundred years so maybe he's a head of recruitment but just not for us!?


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
PostPosted: Sun Mar 11, 2018 8:07 am 
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Its pretty obvious , that the last few lots of money put into the club, have come with conditions imposed, such as, you sign so and so, you give my mate/son a job etc. This is not acceptable in any business. If Harrison and any other manager took a job on knowing this, then they deserved everything they got. Anyone with an ounce of sense , wouldn't work under those circumstances, that is probably why very few people with sense apply for the job in the first place. It must be the talk of lower league football, the joke that Hartlepool United are as a football club to work for. We talk about future managers, we have 3 potentially decent ones on our doorstep, Ainsley , Armstrong and Watson, but they probably wouldn't leave their current clubs to come here, a club that lived in a different world to the likes of Spennymoor, Blyth and Gateshead only 5 seasons ago. IOR built our reputation up, now its back down to early 80s, mid 90s levels.

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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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Its pretty obvious , that the last few lots of money put into the club, have come with conditions imposed, such as, you sign so and so, you give my mate/son a job etc. This is not acceptable in any business. If Harrison and any other manager took a job on knowing this, then they deserved everything they got. Anyone with an ounce of sense , wouldn't work under those circumstances, that is probably why very few people with sense apply for the job in the first place. It must be the talk of lower league football, the joke that Hartlepool United are as a football club to work for. We talk about future managers, we have 3 potentially decent ones on our doorstep, Ainsley , Armstrong and Watson, but they probably wouldn't leave their current clubs to come here, a club that lived in a different world to the likes of Spennymoor, Blyth and Gateshead only 5 seasons ago. IOR built our reputation up, now its back down to early 80s, mid 90s levels.


Sorry but I can't agree with any of that Mr Horden.

Nothing like you are suggesting has gone on I believe has happened. Maybe a conflict of interest with the head of recruitment has been mentioned. Coxall was just a chancer winging it for as long as he could, he let Hignett sign who he wanted. Amond signed for us because Higgy and Curtis Fleming went to meet him face to face before the previous season had even finished. What has happened since is a consequence of something that is under Police investigation. Even this season Harrison was allowed to bring in his own assistant.

If we come out of the other side of this all three of those mentioned would walk on broken glass to the Vic, all managers are ambitious and we are a Football League sized club and the three clubs they are at aren't. What has happened at the hands of conmen in the last 18 months will not damage the clubs reputation long term and I think we have a miles better profile than we had in especially the 80's when the ground was a dump, the town was a dump and the club had been bottom of the fourth division for as long as anyone could remember. I know you like to paint this downbeat, depressing picture of the area and club like was in the good old days but the World has moved and it's not the case.

If we start next season having survived and the slate wiped clean the job will attract a lot of interest, I am sure of that.


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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horden wrote:
Its pretty obvious , that the last few lots of money put into the club, have come with conditions imposed, such as, you sign so and so, you give my mate/son a job etc. This is not acceptable in any business. If Harrison and any other manager took a job on knowing this, then they deserved everything they got. Anyone with an ounce of sense , wouldn't work under those circumstances, that is probably why very few people with sense apply for the job in the first place. It must be the talk of lower league football, the joke that Hartlepool United are as a football club to work for. We talk about future managers, we have 3 potentially decent ones on our doorstep, Ainsley , Armstrong and Watson, but they probably wouldn't leave their current clubs to come here, a club that lived in a different world to the likes of Spennymoor, Blyth and Gateshead only 5 seasons ago. IOR built our reputation up, now its back down to early 80s, mid 90s levels.


Sorry but I can't agree with any of that Mr Horden.

Nothing like you are suggesting has gone on I believe has happened. Maybe a conflict of interest with the head of recruitment has been mentioned. Coxall was just a chancer winging it for as long as he could, he let Hignett sign who he wanted. Amond signed for us because Higgy and Curtis Fleming went to meet him face to face before the previous season had even finished. What has happened since is a consequence of something that is under Police investigation. Even this season Harrison was allowed to bring in his own assistant.

If we come out of the other side of this all three of those mentioned would walk on broken glass to the Vic, all managers are ambitious and we are a Football League sized club and the three clubs they are at aren't. What has happened at the hands of conmen in the last 18 months will not damage the clubs reputation long term and I think we have a miles better profile than we had in especially the 80's when the ground was a dump, the town was a dump and the club had been bottom of the fourth division for as long as anyone could remember. I know you like to paint this downbeat, depressing picture of the area and club like was in the good old days but the World has moved and it's not the case.

If we start next season having survived and the slate wiped clean the job will attract a lot of interest, I am sure of that.


You are entitled to your opinion PJ. I disagree with it of course, its just what I believe and feel. As for Amond, I never suggested everyone signed was forced on the manager , just some, likes of Rodney etc.

As for wiping slate clean, who are you kidding? its going to take years, and that's assuming a sugar daddy rides to our rescue in the first place. A consortium will install Hignett as manager ( first mistake ) and a fans run club wouldn't be in a position to pay for the best.

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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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It’s a very common thing in the modern game has been common practice abroad were the person who picks the team is the coach. Heads of recruitment or directors of Football are an absolute nonsense at Pools level in my opinion though it doesn’t make the club a joke or mean nobody with integrity will apply for the job in the future, with all due respect that’s nonsense.

If the club is taken over debt free by a consortium involving the fans it will start with a clean slate, how will that take years?


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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Its not debt free though is it? payments have to be made if we make back into the league. With possible investigations pending, we still cant be sure of what hasn't come out yet , maybe that's why their isn't a big queue of other investors.

I think it will take years, 5 at least , to get back into the league. Lets put some money on it if you want?. If the club is run properly and profits from sponsorship, catering, club shop, hospitality, plus extra investment from the consortium/fans go towards buying players, then its possible it wont take 5 years. Add to that you have to choose the right manager, backroom staff and players in the first place, even if you have the money. I honestly think playing the long game would be the best option anyway, strengthen the club off the field then go for promotion and stay up or rather than straight back up and become a yo-yo club.

The damage done over the last 5 years to the clubs image, cant be downplayed, however much you deny it and dress it up PJ.

Only time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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It would be debt free, a clause in the sale about if and when we get back in the League isn't debt and we'd be happy to hand that back over to him as if we'd just been promoted the club would be at that point winning games, getting good crowds and be on the up.

I'm not dressing anything up the Trusts statement said the other day that if this takeover can be pulled off all debts to Sage are written off, apart from performance related payments based on promotions. Clean slate = no debt.

Also the timescale of damage hasn't lasted 5 years, Coxall and Goldberg acquired a debt free club from IOR in June 2015, so it's remarkably three months short of three years that this carnage has been created by crooks as associated hangers on.

It's a good deal for Pools because it means payments are only going to be made to Blackledge in positions of strength for the club, and we aren't going to crippled by interest payments and legacy debt like are being now. It's a clean slate.


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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https://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/2017/september/250917-match-of-the-day-for-pools-fans/

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I know Dom. A few on here will too from the old bunker 5 a side days.

I’ll ask him what he looks like.


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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According to google John Blackledge is a Pak Mei Grandmaster and all things in Martial Arts.


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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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It would be debt free, a clause in the sale about if and when we get back in the League isn't debt and we'd be happy to hand that back over to him as if we'd just been promoted the club would be at that point winning games, getting good crowds and be on the up.

I'm not dressing anything up the Trusts statement said the other day that if this takeover can be pulled off all debts to Sage are written off, apart from performance related payments based on promotions. Clean slate = no debt.

Also the timescale of damage hasn't lasted 5 years, Coxall and Goldberg acquired a debt free club from IOR in June 2015, so it's remarkably three months short of three years that this carnage has been created by crooks as associated hangers on.

It's a good deal for Pools because it means payments are only going to be made to Blackledge in positions of strength for the club, and we aren't going to crippled by interest payments and legacy debt like are being now. It's a clean slate.


It might not be classed as a debt, but its hardly a clean slate is it?. Happy to hand over money over to him on promotion? you might be , I wouldnt. We would need that money to continue winning games and bring in good crowds, the loss of that money could hamper that and see us relegated at first time of asking. Not having to pay this money back, would be a clean slate imo. We'll have to agree to disagree on this PJ.

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 Post subject: Re: John Blackledge conspiracy theory.
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You receive almost £1 million a year in funding for being in the League it’s a good deal for the club because we don’t hand over anything until that point and it’s not debt as getting back in the League might not happen, it’s a clause in the sale most takeovers have them in one shape or another.


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Another worry I have about the new owners, well more of a worry for them ... how much is it going to cost to re-vamp this absolutely awful squad. Out of everyone I would probably only keep Loach and Magnay


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I saw him at the youth game against Liverpool, looks like a normal gadge.

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