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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 8:58 am 
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I'm not going again until George Reynolds takes over Pools and is made innocent of all 'crimes'.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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It’s a sad day when an ordinary working man can’t have half a million pounds cash in his car boot without being accused of wrongdoing.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:34 am 
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He just had a dream, build the golden heskeylators and Tino will come.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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What about matey boy with the canoe, he must have quite a bit stashed away still. Maybe he's interested in Pools. What a consortium that would make. Darwin/Singh/Reynolds/Biggs

Darwin in!


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:46 am 
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horden wrote:
I didn't hear many people complaining about Reynolds and Gibson when it was all going well.


I remember this man complaining about it quite loudly..

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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 11:54 am 
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What about matey boy with the canoe, he must have quite a bit stashed away still. Maybe he's interested in Pools. What a consortium that would make. Darwin/Singh/Reynolds/Biggs

Darwin in!


And what about the Kray's as well, good old working class lads, loved their mothers and no crimes ever took place under their watch

The ritual beatings, thefts, stabbings, shootings and tax avoidance were just 1960's high jinx


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:12 pm 
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That was separate though from Darlo FC though wasn't it. He genuinely I believe wanted that to work , but he was naïve in the workings of a football club and made mistake after mistake. Yes I know he was a crook before that. I have read his book, and as a trades unionist, I know all about how he treat some of his workers who dared cross his path. As a person he was a twat, no doubt about it.

You seem to be working on the principle that if they were brought up working class they’re ok, if not then they’re just ‘investors’ to be kicked in to touch. I’d take a benign investor regardless of background and day of the week.
Running a football club cannot be based on the principles of a 1970’s union branch meeting. I went to plenty .


Am I? I always endeavour to reply to posts, I don't hide , but I haven't a clue what you are on about Snowy.

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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:15 pm 
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charco wrote:
What about matey boy with the canoe, he must have quite a bit stashed away still. Maybe he's interested in Pools. What a consortium that would make. Darwin/Singh/Reynolds/Biggs

Darwin in!


That ship has sailed, sorry canoe.

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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 12:21 pm 
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You need to put down the glue bag and step away from the computer Mr Horden :laugh: :wink:

Reynolds is an absolutely terrible bloke, his ‘legacy’ was a death sentence for Darlington Football Club that left several people out of pocket, and finally under what circumstances would we possibly end up playing there that’s an absolutely bonkers suggestion. Darlo probably have little chance or will to play there again never mind us we have more chance of moving into Wembley.


:laugh: I think you're right about the computer PJ. This board is even starting to depress me. Think a few drinks down the pub and a week away from this place it, may be in order. rolf

In no way I have defended Reynolds behaviour in general, just tried to restore a little balance on his time at Darlo in football terms. I did the same for Gibson. God the working class of this country love nothing more than humiliating one of their own who makes it and then falls down.

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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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He was arrested on suspicion of money laundering in June 2004 after being stopped with £500,000 of cash in the boot of his car. He later pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion and was sentenced to three years imprisonment in October 2005. Other charges which he denied, including money laundering, were left on file.
Reynolds was released on 6 December 2006 but was electronically tagged and subject to a curfew.
He was returned to prison for 2 weeks in April 2007 breaching the terms of his curfew.
He currently operates a vending machine company and works from an E-Cig shop in Chester-le-Street.

Reynolds was brought up in the slums of Sunderland and in his early life became involved in crime. His first conviction was for stealing cigarettes, which he traded for food for his family.
Another conviction in the 1960s saw him sent to jail for six months smuggling watches.
In 1964 he was jailed for four years for safe-cracking, handling explosives, burglary and theft. He was jailed in 1970 for burglary and again in 1976 for theft.

is that all. he would easily pass the fit and proper person for what the sweet f.a. require for directors.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 1:42 pm 
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He was arrested on suspicion of money laundering in June 2004 after being stopped with £500,000 of cash in the boot of his car. He later pleaded guilty to charges of tax evasion and was sentenced to three years imprisonment in October 2005. Other charges which he denied, including money laundering, were left on file.
Reynolds was released on 6 December 2006 but was electronically tagged and subject to a curfew.
He was returned to prison for 2 weeks in April 2007 breaching the terms of his curfew.
He currently operates a vending machine company and works from an E-Cig shop in Chester-le-Street.

Reynolds was brought up in the slums of Sunderland and in his early life became involved in crime. His first conviction was for stealing cigarettes, which he traded for food for his family.
Another conviction in the 1960s saw him sent to jail for six months smuggling watches.
In 1964 he was jailed for four years for safe-cracking, handling explosives, burglary and theft. He was jailed in 1970 for burglary and again in 1976 for theft.

is that all. he would easily pass the fit and proper person for what the sweet f.a. require for directors.


So does Raj Singh, although he got lucky by one year and because of a rule change hes free to get involved anywhere.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2018 2:41 pm 
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I'm with Raj Singh all the way PROVIDED he BUYS a controlling interest in HUFC.

If he intends loaning the club cash, I wouldn't have anything to do with him.



In order to buy a controlling interest he would have to buy the shares, which are owned by Sage through HUFC Holdings. The money would therefore go to Sage and not towards running the club.

In the consortium takeover scenario, the shares are passing to the consortium free of charge. I would imagine that he would be able to convert his "loan" to shares later on.


Sage have 100 shares at £1.00 per share in HUFC holding. Try and work that out.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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Kevin Dixon wrote:
Stomper409 wrote:
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I'm with Raj Singh all the way PROVIDED he BUYS a controlling interest in HUFC.

If he intends loaning the club cash, I wouldn't have anything to do with him.



In order to buy a controlling interest he would have to buy the shares, which are owned by Sage through HUFC Holdings. The money would therefore go to Sage and not towards running the club.

In the consortium takeover scenario, the shares are passing to the consortium free of charge. I would imagine that he would be able to convert his "loan" to shares later on.


Sage have 100 shares at £1.00 per share in HUFC holding. Try and work that out.


Sorry Kev but I don't see what there is to work out. Sage own HUFC Holdings, HUFC Holdings own HUFC Ltd. therefore (effectively) Sage own HUFC Ltd.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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You need to put down the glue bag and step away from the computer Mr Horden :laugh: :wink:



In no way I have defended Reynolds behaviour in general, just tried to restore a little balance on his time at Darlo in football terms. I did the same for Gibson. God the working class of this country love nothing more than humiliating one of their own who makes it and then falls down.

I’m working class, I don’t accept him as one of my own, far from it.

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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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dstanley wrote:
I'm with Raj Singh all the way PROVIDED he BUYS a controlling interest in HUFC.

If he intends loaning the club cash, I wouldn't have anything to do with him.

OK, I can go along with a loan provided it is for 20 years at zero interest.The idea that someone can just demand the money back at any time is unpaletable.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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Here you have a bloke willing to put over a million quid into the pot to save Pools. He has negotiated a negligible pay off for Sage it is claimed.

Jeff Stelling is chipping in.

If all that is true then its a good deal but it is likely to fall without other investors.

You'd better make your mind up because its the only option on the current club.

Have some respect, He's the only bloke willing to open his cheque book so irrespective of what happened at Darlo, back him or its liquidation. I don't believe that would be the end by the way but staying in this league without the sage debt is better.


There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Careful what you wish for.
It would be wise for the trust to take a back seat and let events unfold before committing.
A new owner with more than 50% holding in the club can literally do what he wants.
Looks like you're going to get shafted and are bending over to help.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
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Here you have a bloke willing to put over a million quid into the pot to save Pools. He has negotiated a negligible pay off for Sage it is claimed.

Jeff Stelling is chipping in.

If all that is true then its a good deal but it is likely to fall without other investors.

You'd better make your mind up because its the only option on the current club.

Have some respect, He's the only bloke willing to open his cheque book so irrespective of what happened at Darlo, back him or its liquidation. I don't believe that would be the end by the way but staying in this league without the sage debt is better.


There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Careful what you wish for.
It would be wise for the trust to take a back seat and let events unfold before committing.
A new owner with more than 50% holding in the club can literally do what he wants.
Looks like you're going to get shafted and are bending over to help.


Isn't in funny how the people who are most against the consortium are the ones who have absolutely nothing to lose if Pools go under - not being or even pretending to be Pools fans?

But thanks for the advice.


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 Post subject: Re: Raj Singh
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:23 pm 
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Here you have a bloke willing to put over a million quid into the pot to save Pools. He has negotiated a negligible pay off for Sage it is claimed.

Jeff Stelling is chipping in.

If all that is true then its a good deal but it is likely to fall without other investors.

You'd better make your mind up because its the only option on the current club.

Have some respect, He's the only bloke willing to open his cheque book so irrespective of what happened at Darlo, back him or its liquidation. I don't believe that would be the end by the way but staying in this league without the sage debt is better.


There's no such thing as a free lunch.
Careful what you wish for.
It would be wise for the trust to take a back seat and let events unfold before committing.
A new owner with more than 50% holding in the club can literally do what he wants.
Looks like you're going to get shafted and are bending over to help.


Isn't in funny how the people who are most against the consortium are the ones who have absolutely nothing to lose if Pools go under - not being or even pretending to be Pools fans?

But thanks for the advice.


You must understand that as a Wrexham fan, I'm not in a position to offer advice and would not wish to.
I only suggest caution.
However I do speak from experience of, as a club, being taken over by sharks, who promised the earth and delivered us into the Sh1t.
We, as a club were fortunate to have a trust that had been established and was actively pursuing fund raising to ensure that should the time come when they could step in, they would be ready and able to do so and we have been relatively successful in turning around a sinking ship into a stable one that lives within its means. Due in no small way to the fantastic support from the fans and local community.
If the trust sink their money into a consortium which fails to deliver, both they and your club could end up with nothing.
I wish you well whichever course you take.


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