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PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 6:06 am 
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The local Town Plan which cost £1,5 million was scrapped a couple of years ago allowing a free for hall in house building projects in the town too go ahead. This included changing plans at Wynyard for land owned by Pools prospective investor originally meant for industrial use to be changed to houses.
The reason giving for the plan being scrapped was to axe an unwanted Gypsy Site and a housing development at South Fens.
There was a conspiracy theory that the proposed investor was behind the scrapping of the plan via friends of friends on the Council to allow the land at Wynyard too be sold for housing which it subsequently was.
I will be over the moon if he does take Pools over but be careful what you wish for, Mill House Master Plan etc.


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So no one wants Raj Singh anymore?


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Anyone buying Pools is not doing it for the town or the fans but I hope it goes ahead.
Another interesting story in The Mail apart from the current interest there is another one who would want to instal a former Manager ?

Another local businessman with links to football in the area was also involved in talks to invest in the club. As part of his plans, he could have installed a former manager back at the Pools helm. But that deal is understood to be on the backburner while this current investment is pushed forward.

Read more at: https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-8969683


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just read "it was him not me" type explanations from duxbury in the northern echo....unbelievable stuff......40000 "arrangement fees" on 100000 loans. ???....if shes willing to disclose that in public god only knows how bad the stuff is she wont or cant talk about....outrageous


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Jamie1952 wrote:
Another local businessman with links to football in the area was also involved in talks to invest in the club. As part of his plans, he could have installed a former manager back at the Pools helm. But that deal is understood to be on the backburner while this current investment is pushed forward.


I’m guessing that this is Raj Singh, but the only former managers that I’d like to see back would be Danny Wilson, or John Hughes - I think we screwed him over completely and he made a very poor team into a pretty solid one without any new players.


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The ex manager is Hignett.


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I just hope the potential investor wasn't there today or reads a newspaper tomorrow....or checks the internet...or watches local news....shit....he's not gonna invest is he? :(


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He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


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What better time to be the club/town's saviour. We're shit in every respect and not even George Reynolds could make us a a bigger laughing stock. Where's your Tino gone?


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He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


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Mr Ripper wrote:
Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


Is that you in disguise Mr Fireball?


No. He has a lot more hair than me but at least I have got some dress sense.
I speak to Chip every now and again don't know him that well. he is clearly a lot less cynical than me about this lot running the club, and seem very upbeat about Musgrave on the television yesterday.
I told him Pam would never let him see the clubs books, and that I don't think property developers and football clubs are a good mix. I thought he would have been on here tonight given how much he hates Harrison and his tactics though !


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Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?

Well, if in a couple of years time we're playing at the ''New Vic', a sheet metal 2,000 capacity 'stadium' at Graythorp, we'll have our answer.

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Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


For me it's win, win. It works for him, it works for Pools it works for the council. Everything I've heard and been told about him in the last few days suggests he's a really good bloke. He's a local lad come good with local interests. I don't think you buy a football club and aren't 'interested in the football' I'm fairly that anyone could have such a negative view on something that is going to save our club and is way, way better outcome than we could have expected the common view was the multi millionaire wauting around the corner to buy Pools didn't excist. well he does and I for one will be delighted if fungers crossed everything goes through next week staggered
The glossy brochure has obviously worked.


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Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


For me it's win, win. It works for him, it works for Pools it works for the council. Everything I've heard and been told about him in the last few days suggests he's a really good bloke. He's a local lad come good with local interests. I don't think you buy a football club and aren't 'interested in the football' I'm fairly that anyone could have such a negative view on something that is going to save our club and is way, way better outcome than we could have expected the common view was the multi millionaire wauting around the corner to buy Pools didn't excist. well he does and I for one will be delighted if fungers crossed everything goes through next week staggered
The glossy brochure has obviously worked.


He isn't being negative, just sceptical , as am I. I like to think I'm pretty clued up on local affairs, but I had never heard of this bloke until the last couple of days, and I thought I knew or heard of all the nice guys in Hartlepool. What are his local interests? other than making money. Why hasn't he showed any interest before? Has he ever attended a Pools game?. You say the common view was that a multi millionaire didn't exist, so are you saying you had never heard of him either?.

Beggars cant be choosers and we need a buyer, even if its Donald Trump, or our club is kaput, but people should be sceptical, that this isnt just our Raj Singh moment, in a process that ultimately will see the club cease to exist in its current form. Lets hope this is the start of better times that will eventually see us regain our place in the Football League, rather than just keeping the life support machine on for another year or two.

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Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


For me it's win, win. It works for him, it works for Pools it works for the council. Everything I've heard and been told about him in the last few days suggests he's a really good bloke. He's a local lad come good with local interests. I don't think you buy a football club and aren't 'interested in the football' I'm fairly that anyone could have such a negative view on something that is going to save our club and is way, way better outcome than we could have expected the common view was the multi millionaire wauting around the corner to buy Pools didn't excist. well he does and I for one will be delighted if fungers crossed everything goes through next week staggered
The glossy brochure has obviously worked.

gotta keep them fungers crossed

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Remember the Mill House master plan was originally about enabling IOR to develop the ground, Gus Robinsons to build houses for students and affordable homes and the town to get a new leisure centre.

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Let's face it, it was about making money. We rarely filled the ground so never needed somewhere bigger.

As much as things went sour for Ken in the latter days I still trusted him enough to have the ground. Looking back I'm glad the council didn't entertain the idea as it undoubtedly would of meant the likes of Coxall would have screwed us over even more.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 21, 2018 11:49 am 
Why can`t we have a fan with a bit of cash who will do it for the love, not what`s in it for them!

If he retains the services of Duxbury and Watson then we are fucked on two counts, one being they are obviously incompetent and secondly the new owner is not as astute as I had hoped sadx

Football seems to be the only industry where you can be blatantly shit at what you do and still be hired/retained :doh:


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misterb2001 wrote:
PJPoolie wrote:
Face Paint Army wrote:
He probably isn't interested in the football, and the deal is more likely about getting land from The Council to build houses in return for keeping the club going for a couple of years, with the current owners getting a cut of the profits once the houses are built. He might plough some of that profit back into Pools, but then again he may not.
Pam and Sage made no secret of the fact the glossy brochure produced to attract buyers had Millhouse Masterplan all over it. Pam has alsso made no secret of the fact she has been in talks this week with the Council. So it cant be a shock to anyone that the people it has attracted are property developers. Musgrave wouldn't be interested in Pools if it wasn't for the land that is up for grabs. Has he ever even been to a Pools game ?


For me it's win, win. It works for him, it works for Pools it works for the council. Everything I've heard and been told about him in the last few days suggests he's a really good bloke. He's a local lad come good with local interests. I don't think you buy a football club and aren't 'interested in the football' I'm fairly that anyone could have such a negative view on something that is going to save our club and is way, way better outcome than we could have expected the common view was the multi millionaire wauting around the corner to buy Pools didn't excist. well he does and I for one will be delighted if fungers crossed everything goes through next week staggered
The glossy brochure has obviously worked.

gotta keep them fungers crossed


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Why can`t we have a fan with a bit of cash who will do it for the love, not what`s in it for them!

If he retains the services of Duxbury and Watson then we are fucked on two counts, one being they are obviously incompetent and secondly the new owner is not as astute as I had hoped sadx

Football seems to be the only industry where you can be blatantly shit at what you do and still be hired/retained :doh:


Sometimes when people take over a business they give the people there already an opportunity I suppose, this is all speculation at the end of the day. 'Someone said this' isn't really worth getting worked up about. To be honest in the short term I'm just fairly happy that it looks like we're still going to have a club. Your fans with a bit of cash for the love in the real World are few and far between, hopefully we have got the next best thing. Let's give the man a chance though eh? FFS.


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Remember the Mill House master plan was originally about enabling IOR to develop the ground, Gus Robinsons to build houses for students and affordable homes and the town to get a new leisure centre.

Funny how it was so ferociously opposed, but if someone came along offering to do the same thing to save the club, we'd all be welcoming them as a saviour. Looks like no sale of the ground to potential owners is in the skip of past values.
Extinction of the club tends to clarify people's thought process.

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I don't think it was opposed at first, most wanted the council to give IOR the ground, I think people were pretty excited about the prospect of the ground and area being regenerated helping the club push on to the next level but it became clear after about ten minutes of the meeting that it was pie in the sky stuff as their was a shortfall of £5,000,000 which nobody had the money to do anything about it. I'm not even convinced Hodcroft wanted the ground after about 2009 and was just a convinient deflection. Chris Musgrave clearly has the money.


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It wasnt opposed then as it was a council led initiative whearas the Mill House Mater plan was a get rich quick scheme for shysters. And still is.


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Whoa. The mantra was always no ground sale. That was the life raft if it ever went tits up. History will no doubt be re-interpreted.

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I agree with you. Back then though life felt a bit different. Recent history all over the world has shown that selling your possessions to property developers never ends well.


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