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 Post subject: At last, some truth.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 8:50 am 
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Could have saved a lot of ill feeling if this had been released a lot earlier.

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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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40% interest on the loan Coxhall took out. What a f-kwit.

All that bollox about could have gone to a bank but this was the same but quicker. No-one believed that statement but it was even worse than I imagined. Coxhall shouldn’t be let near his own wallet never mind anyone else’s money. What a horrific read that article is.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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But he said it was personally guaranteed against him?

Please don’t say he told a porky.

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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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So there we have proof now of the loans being needed for HMRC as was thought at the time.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Where did the money go?

I would really love to see this pair of cretins end up in court for this.

Coxall at best is a pathological liar.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
PostPosted: Sat Jan 20, 2018 9:41 am 
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Absolutely nothing in there that we didn't report at the time and this reporter dismissed as nonsense.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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PJPoolie wrote:
Where did the money go?

I would really love to see this pair of cretins end up in court for this.

Coxall at best is a pathological liar.

Pam does make him out to seem little more than an incompetent desperado who was duped by Goldberg. I think there's some truth in that but I still suspect it's not the whole story.

Again not sure of the entire truth but I do feel we've all jumped to conclusions and let passions rule our judgement of Pam. She made a mistake getting involved and is still coming to terms with how bad a state the club was in. I think most people revised their opinions of her because she refused access to the books, maybe if that information was public knowledge the league wouldn't of let us start the season. I'm only guessing there like.

Hopefully this time next week we can forget all about the recent past.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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pooliecrab wrote:
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Where did the money go?

I would really love to see this pair of cretins end up in court for this.

Coxall at best is a pathological liar.

Pam does make him out to seem little more than an incompetent desperado who was duped by Goldberg. I think there's some truth in that but I still suspect it's not the whole story.

Again not sure of the entire truth but I do feel we've all jumped to conclusions and let passions rule our judgement of Pam. She made a mistake getting involved and is still coming to terms with how bad a state the club was in. I think most people revised their opinions of her because she refused access to the books, maybe if that information was public knowledge the league wouldn't of let us start the season. I'm only guessing there like.

Hopefully this time next week we can forget all about the recent past.


Re: jumping to conclusions, people will always do it where information isn't forthcoming which is bloody silly but it will always be the case. Have a few people start a few rumours off and they soon become accepted as truth.

I still don't trust everything in the report if for no other reason than it wasn't said earlier and it still leaves questions unanswered.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Me neither Shilts. She hasn't been asked the difficult questions and seems to be suggesting that poor old sage Investments just wanted to help but didn't realise what a terrible mess that dafty Gary had made.

They obviously saw that Gary was desperate and saw helping him out of trouble as a way of getting into the club. They couldn't possibly have thought that somebody who had been a partner of Goldberg, had offices above Mario's barbers, and a cit and paste website was legit. They're property developers and taking control from JPNG by the backdoor gave cheap access to land. Pam is a chartered accountant who was working as finance officer under Coxall but she was surprised to find out that there was a big tax bill? Doesn't add up.

All this 'someone I knew' stuff is shite as well. All these people introduced by Paul Watson seem to have done very well out of a brief time at Pools, as has Paul Watson. I bet Pam has been well-paid every month too. If she didn't know that the agents, manager, backroom staff and head of recruitment were all in cahoots she should have. As they're all from round the same area and have business links with Blakelege I'm sure she did know.

Bet Sage and Pam are chuffed to bits to be selling to private investor who'll agree to keep the books closed.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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No other club in the country has such an easy ride with journalists. This is at best half a story.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
No other club in the country has such an easy ride with journalists. This is at best half a story.


The club controls what’s released in the press. Liam Kennedy of the mail admitted yesterday he wasn’t allowed to say the club was under a transfer embargo due to finances.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Absolutely nothing in there that we didn't report at the time and this reporter dismissed as nonsense.


The irony is you were called a detective on here last year for saying what that very article does


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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the echo and the mail should be ashamed of how they have allowed themselves to be so easily duped by a small group of not very nice people responsible for this "mess" imo


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Yubep wrote:
Mr Irrelevant wrote:
No other club in the country has such an easy ride with journalists. This is at best half a story.


The club controls what’s released in the press. Liam Kennedy of the mail admitted yesterday he wasn’t allowed to say the club was under a transfer embargo due to finances.


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Which is stupid, whos paying his wages? His employer or Pam*?!

*clearly not Pam, she doesn't pay any wages, gets the fans to do that for her.

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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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From what I read it sounds Goldberg or whatever he's called was the real bad guy?


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Average salary for a chartered accountant is over £90k, she obviously hasn't been working for free or left a steady job for nothing.

The club is able to control what is printed as journos around here like an easy ride and stories handed to them rather than digging, they'd rather leave the detective work to others...


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
From what I read it sounds Goldberg or whatever he's called was the real bad guy?

Certainly the baddest bad guy, no-one really comes out of it all smelling of roses or even a dog piss soaked nettle.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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pooliecrab wrote:
Gerry Mandrake wrote:
From what I read it sounds Goldberg or whatever he's called was the real bad guy?

Certainly the baddest bad guy, no-one really comes out of it all smelling of roses or even a dog piss soaked nettle.


Goldberg and Coxhall cooked up the whole thing together.

PD is never going to admit that she was duped by Coxhall, it's easier to portray him as an incompetent buffoon. Well this incompetent buffoon has stolen all of HUFC money, declared himself bankrupt to prevent any claims against hisself and stashed it all in Sarah Mullaly's knickers.

Ask yourself, who are the victims here.


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Old news now but this should have been a red flag:

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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Loughlin just doing more PR for the club. Deal with Musgrave probably involves Duxbury and Watson keeping their jobs reading between the lines, so he needs to make people feel sorry for her.
If Musgrave is serious about the football side the pair of them needs chasing. Coxall didn't hire the 2 crap managers, do the retained list or sign a load of useless players in the summer did he ? He also didn't set the budget for this season.


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The northern echo should make it clear what is sponsored content.

Seen Kim Jong-un given a harder ride from the North Korean press.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Loughlin just doing more PR for the club. Deal with Musgrave probably involves Duxbury and Watson keeping their jobs reading between the lines, so he needs to make people feel sorry for her.
If Musgrave is serious about the football side the pair of them needs chasing. Coxall didn't hire the 2 crap managers, do the retained list or sign a load of useless players in the summer did he ? He also didn't set the budget for this season.


Every fucker needs chasing at the minute


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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i do hope the new owner has a ruthless streak.... because being nice with this shambles is only going to result in more of the same abject failure


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Talking to someone today who said Pools still had 3 managers on the wage bill last month, Hignett Jones and Harrison and 11 coaches. Why wasn't she questioned on that ?
Harrison Watson and Duxbury want chasing not sucking up to. Pam has set the club up in such a way that we would have lost a million pounds even if we were in the top half of the table. By letting the unqualified Watson hire 2 managers and about 12 players between them they have destroyed the club and Loughlin just gives her an easy time like she has been good for the club.


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spot on


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Who signed the players in the summer, was it Harrison's choice or not?

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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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"Talking to someone" is not the best way to start a reasoned point.

If what you say is true then it is shocking, I'm sure more truths will come out later on.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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The retained list was done by Watson. The list of targets for summer signings was done by Watson and Dave Jones. Nobody seems to know who this Watson is or wht background he has in football. Someone said its Pams boyfriend, don't know if thats true.
I put £30 in that Just Giving Page, feel sick its going towards their wages as well as Harrisons.


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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pooliecrab wrote:
"Talking to someone" is not the best way to start a reasoned point.

If what you say is true then it is shocking, I'm sure more truths will come out later on.


Well they work for the club in the offices so Im not going to put there name !


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 Post subject: Re: At last, some truth.
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
No other club in the country has such an easy ride with journalists. This is at best half a story.


With social media what it is nowadays fortunately we are no longer as reliant on the established media as we once were. If anybody knew any differently to what the papers were printing it is easy enough to get the true story out online innit?

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