https://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/sport/ ... -1-8944564

Christ that’s bad


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At least we have these "6 interested parties"

I have some Footy kit in me shed from Sunday league they can have a lend of


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Its good that stuff like this is being reported on now it was only a few weeks ago some with personal agendas were dismissing it (yet again) as scaremongering, it’s leaves no doubt about the stark reality of the situation and the trouble the club is in.

How the fuck are they having to lend training gear? Do they chuck it away after every use?

I’d imagine if they are traveling on the train without the regular bus traveling down to meet them theirs a limit to the amount of stuff that they can actually take, so maybe it wasn’t actually training kit more equipment used for warming up? Just a guess of course.

Judging by the crap its made of I presume it probably disintegrates once it comes into contact with sweat.

Not sure I am impressed with the mail claiming it was all dodgy from the start. Re-writing history there. Only people from this forum said things were dodgy from the start.

Wasn't it the echo journalist who discovered something wasn't right after their detective work?

Does it matter? what's done is done.

Even if that's true I'm not surely how helpful banging on about it is, everyone needs to get over themselves on all sides and move forward together the local press can be a very useful tool in that moving forward.

I don't disagree with you PJ but I also believe that it's right that history remembers those that actually did good. If pools are saved it will be because of this place and the few from here that formed the trust and protected the ground. Reading a few threads elsewhere there are a few claiming it will be the trust's fault if pools go under. So whilst working together for the greater good it's also important to remind people who the saviours actually were.

It's not important in the slightest now though and is an attitude that isn't going to help. We're a long way off hailing saviours, hopefully in years to come the whole fanbase can give themselves a pat on the back. Anyone suggesting that it would be the trusts fault if Pools went under needs some sort of help, not correcting on a message board.

You're right mr afar but for the second time today I agree with PJ.

Damnit.

It’s actually worse than that Nick has elaboarated in the Echo that a launderette have the training kit and our home kit and won’t release the kit until the bill is paid.

Sweet baby Jesus and the orphans.

The big question for me is - are Coxall and his cronies under police investigation yet? and if not, why not?

Another decent sized question is how many times does this have to happen before the football league reviews its fit and proper person test? Shame they can't be sued over it.

Really minor question, but it irks me - how on earth does a professional journalist not know the difference between 'lend' and 'borrow'?

Is she Coxall in a dress?

Can you paste up his article? The Echo have started doing their stupid paywall thing again.

This confused me an' all

I used to take kits there every week, very sound man, family run business, only charges the local league teams about £8 for 15 shirts/shorts/socks.

A darlo fan said to me yesterday if the worst happens n you go into admin, its people like that which suffer.

Very true.

Why the fuck haven't Pools got their own washers and dryers????

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/sport/ ... _Dagenham/

Not sure if that will work Mr Dawes.

Yubep it’s not the bloke on Northgate is it I used to take my suits there yeah he’s a canny fella.

No one is banging the on about it. However, there’ll be some people re-writing history hoping no one notices as they elbow their way to the front.
It’s always wise to keep a record and remind yourself how events really panned out.
I’d say nowt for now, but if some shouty gobshite gives a ‘revised’ version of events I’d say ‘ REALLY, is that what happened?’

Yup, link works. On the surface seems to be a football report, but is actually an exercise in including as many launderette related puns as possible for the gratification of the author.

Not if you've already reached your quota of 10 Echo articles in 19 days. Thanks for posting the link Mr PJ. I'd ask you to cut and paste the article but it will only go towards using up your quota - unless you're already a subscriber.

Good job we dont have any players called Daz.

If anyone wants to crash their phone just click on that link..

Here's the article in full:

HARTLEPOOL UNITED: A washout at Dagenham
Nick Loughlin loughlinecho Sports Editor

THE future of Hartlepool United? It will all come out in the wash as they say.

It’s unravelling rather quickly now. They were taken to the cleaners on Saturday at Dagenham, conceding four goals, to make it 19 conceded in seven games.

They have won one in ten in the National League, and taken two points from a possible 21.

The club is up for sale, with benefactor John Blackledge unwilling to put another penny into the failing operation.

Wages are due at the end of the month and the club needs to find the funds to pay staff and players.

Some of the squad will be on their way this month, a fire sale to ease the burden, to bring a few quid in and help keep them ticking over.

On Saturday they had their pre-match warm up wearing various bits and pieces of training gear. The regular clothing was at the laundrette, along with the home strips (Pools wore their silver away strip at Victoria Road), and they won’t get them back until the backdated bill is paid.

When you thought 2017 was bad, 2018 could yet be a whole lot worse.

The club is engaging with interested parties, who seemingly number six, with three viewed as real possibles.

They need it to happen and quick. There’s no game until January 20, because Pools were knocked out of the FA Trophy in the first round.

Hopefully by then there’s some positive news; they might even have their home strips washed and ironed by then.

As part of the cost-cutting measures, Pools travelled by train on Saturday to London, dumping their normal routine of Friday coach and overnight hotel.

It wouldn’t matter how they travelled to London, they would still have lost. They aren’t good enough to compete, downtrodden by the malaise around the club, confidence shot to pieces.

They hung in at one-down in the first-half, rallied for 15 minutes and were actually the better side – and by some distance – at that point.

But after getting level, they failed to make the most of their efforts. Instead of taking what they had, they again showed their naivety and shipped their usual soft goals.

When Dagenham were under pressure, they dug in, changed to a resolute one man up front and played long on the break.

It kept them in the game, before Pools gave it away.

The furious supporters surrounded the tunnel as Harrison and his players trudged off. They weren’t very complimentary.

With the season turning into such a disastrous one – Pools, remember, were supposed to be challenging for promotion and an instant Football League return – Harrison has lost the crowd.

Supporters want him out, but they won’t get their wish. The club can’t afford to pay him off.

The manager emerged from the dressing room to give a quick interview to the waiting press. The squad had to be back at Kings Cross for their 6.30pm train.

Of the support, Harrison said: “They were great again. They always are and they don't deserve what we are serving up for them - they did not deserve four calamitous goals.

“We created enough chances to win four games never mind one but they have come a long way and we sent them home with nothing to cheer.’’

That’s nothing new really is it?

Pools have won only eight games this season and are eight points in front of the relegation places. They go to fourth-bottom Chester two weeks tomorrow.

Pools lined up 4-5-1. Blair Adams was left midfield, Nicky Deverdics left back in an attempt to keep things tight on the left.

But Deverdics was rinsed at left-back. He played there last season out of sheer desperation under the previous manager. He has to play further forward or not at all.

Jake Cassidy was too isolated up front. He made plenty of aerial challenges, but had little support.

After a couple of scares, Pools conceded the first when Fejiri Okenabirhie crossed and Daniel Sparkes turned in.

A change from 4-5-1 to 4-3-3 saw Pools spin into life. Liam Donnelly had a header cleared off the line, Cassidy’s header from Deverdics’ free-kick was brilliantly saved by keeper Mark Cousins.

They levelled as Jonathan Franks crossed for Michael Woods to head in at the far post. It was of little comfort.

Because Deverdics made a hash of an attempted clearance, Scott Loach stayed on his line when he should have came and taken out everyone and when the ball came back over Michael Cheek netted after Loach saved his initial effort well.

As they trudged back to start again, it was clear it was game over. Heads down, their body language showed the game was up, a washout.

So they conceded a third and a fourth just to make sure.

Woods scored his second, heading in again, and Franks still had one cleared off the line.

Attacking-wise and Pools were as positive – second-half at least – as they have been in a while. At the other end, however, nothing changes.

Harrison added: “When we got that goal back to level we had to have a 10-15 minute spell where we settle the ship.

“It's not about having to go and win the game straight away, you just have to keep doing what you are doing.

“We didn't do that. In fact, we ended up losing the game in the period after that. We gave two really poor goals away when the game got away from us.

“Eight goals conceded in three games - not one of them has been a good one.

Thanks Mr. Charco.

Describing Blackledge as a benefactor made me laugh, he's a businessman trying to recover his investment. That isn't a crime - but if any of the takeover enquiries are at all serious, he should be asking himself how making the club a laughing stock that can't pay its laundry bill and selling off the few remaining playing assets will help to get new owners over the line.

PJ wh are you so keen to forgive certain members of the local press given their complicity in coxalls reign, their lack of regret and the continued disparaging comments about the trust?

Because no one person is bigger than this current situation and everyone needs to pull in the same direction if the club are to come out of the other side of this and put whatever has happened previously in the past.

Tell him that then until he is pulling I’m certainly not going to do chin ups on his nob

Come on chaps. PJ has made some valid points which I have no issue with. I still believe its right to highlight just who has done what but PJ wasnt defending anyone. Its quite correct to try and move forward collectively.

Yes I won’t hold petty grudges but what certain members of the press have done is unforgivable IMO and they continue to deny it happened or wind the people they upset up.

Is that even possible?


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On who’s? What are babbling on about?

To suggest anyone in the local press was complicit in what has happened is also ridiculous. Especially when the law has potentially been broken. Get over yourself man how can you hate a reporter that much!? Being taken in by a bullshitter doesn’t make anyone complicit. Are the people who worked at the club like Mark Simpson the same? Stuff has happened and been said, time to move on.

Why should he get over himself PJ? He's got every right to have opinions on Loughlin and the other dissenters. Your general points about all that matters right now is the club surviving no one can disagree with. However you can't forget or airbrush history, by rubbishing the Trust publicly and denigrating the comments about the Coxall regime whilst he was a golf partner of Coxall does infer a level of complicity.

You have given a good sermon that everyone agrees with that we should all pull together but don't try and force people to forgive or forget the people who have aggressively been pulling in the opposite direction. You're currently lecturing the people who have been taking this position for a long time

You can’t airbrush history but surely for the greater good it needs to be put to one side for now?

I agree with that but it should not be forgotten

Forgive, but never forget.

PJ, There are currently no criminal charges levelled at coxall as far as I am aware but the complicity lies in adding gravitas and credibility to some of the claims Gary made. Please do not infer that I meant criminally complicit as this was clearly not the case.

I like Simpson personally but he is still claiming that no questions were withheld at the coxall - Jones talk in which is somewhat baffling given the evidence to the contrary.

Given you are currently trousering the Arab sheckles it is no suprise that me and you do not hold the same values..

Let’s put our differences aside for the greater good.

I agree with both PJ and Dalton here. Its difficult and some people have had outragous abuse at matches and been slaughtered on social media but its vital to come together somehow.

Alan Bamford, a former director of the club asked a pertinent financial question at that talk in. It never seen the light of day.

What’s that talk in got to do with now? How will going back to it help moving forward?

Can you divulge what that question was?

It strikes me that if laundry and coach fees have risen to the point that services are being withdrawn they must have been withholding payments for some time. Sage are obviously not putting any more cash in and their loan simply compounds as interest payments are missed. I presume that we must be up to date with HMRC or there would be a winding up order in place (anyone checked recently?). The question is can Sage/Pam be shoehorned out by potential new owners without the club going into administration and what p in the £ will Sage accept either by negotiation or a CVA. They will probably have structured the debt so they get paid first so the local businesses will probably get sweet FA. I presume we have no football debts as we haven't paid any money for any players for a few years. Nobody will be daft enough to throw good money after bad and simply pay Sage off. It all looks very bleak and I can't see anything more positive than a fire sale of players followed by a period in administration.

Surely ANY bus/coach would have been cheaper than 20+ return train tickets.....

I've been asked to point out to you that this is total nonsense.

Asked by who?

I reckon you might be able to work that one out on your own

A "journo" by any chance?