Did anyone get spat at or abused ??

Nothing at all, but then I was sat in the front room. Mind, the wife can turn nasty if you touch her Hotel Chocolat!

Well looks like we have a date for a meeting of the 3rd group I’ve tried to create to divide fans and steer people away from the trust, the 3rd of January at the steelworks club ,
Westbourne Road at 7.30 if you can attend please let us know I will set up a invite page .

We have a few businessmen in attendance who will be there to help and advice and business knowledge along with fans ideas.

At the moment this is just a preliminary meeting to try and clear up a few issues and try to unite fans ,then move on and get some sort of action group set up to work alongside all other groups .

So another new group that is totally uncalled for has been set up clear up a few issues and ‘unite’ people. Surely it’s going to have the opposite effect and be potentially damaging.

We have a supporters Trust all set up, what needs to be encouraged is for people who don’t understand what one is to look it up, and for those who are against it because who set it up to put that to one side for the good of the club so it’s in a strong position if the worst happens. That is the only way forward.

A group to manage all the groups, most set up by the same fella. If it wasn't so sad and pathetic it would be laughable.

Is there a group for those who no longer wish to be in a group?

The thing is as well. These people could of joined the trust and ran to be appointed to the board and this could of been sorted and United nearly a month ago.

And we would of been in an even stronger position the other day when the shit was announced to be half way to hitting the fan.

Like the saying goes, 'United we stand, divided we fall'.

The irony is, the people who initially derided the Trust have suddenly realised there was a problem after all...doh.
Now they look like they're trying to do a belted catch up and appear to be trying to wrestle control of the steering wheel and re-writing history.
Late, far too late.

Got an invite for this on Facebook. Cannot see the point. As others have said it just seems to be another attempt to set up a version of The Supporters Trust. Certainly cant see the point of yet another meeting which they will probably cancel again at the last minute. The only division between the fans seems to be the one this bloke keeps trying to create. Even the police and stewards yesterday said what a great set of fans the club had.

This x 1 million

It’s all very petty n silly

I can’t believe anyone of sane mind would go to this meeting and think it’s a good idea. The only reason I could think to attend would be to tell him how fuckin stupid he is.




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Ha ha Millhouseseats what a laugh, what a Xmas wind up! There’s really Turkey left overs and 3 free pints using chits provided followed by a side splitting alternative panto-awesome!

You'd be wasting your breath. Him and the other 2 confirmed attendees would gang up on you.

Troll

From facebook group never say die.

Well looks like we have a date for a meeting of the 3rd group I’ve tried to create to divide fans and steer people away from the trust, the 3rd of January at the steelworks club ,
Westbourne Road at 7.30 if you can attend please let us know I will set up a invite page .

We have a few businessmen in attendance who will be there to help and advice and business knowledge along with fans ideas.

At the moment this is just a preliminary meeting to try and clear up a few issues and try to unite fans ,then move on and get some sort of action group set up to work alongside all other groups .[/quote]

The mind boggles, it really does. The best thing any supporter of this football club can do at the present time is to join HUST. The people that won’t clearly have no idea what a Supporters Trust is or does.

Stop calling him this bloke, it’s Mr Blue. Set up the original antitrust board and can’t see what he’s doing.

He doesn’t allow people that disagree to join his group, a little odd !!

Now saying he wants to raise funds for the club. If I wanted to give money to the club I would just give it directly to the club. Why would I need to give it to a man I know nothing about via a Facebook Page ? How do I even know he will pass the money on ? Seems to me fans can do one of two things, give money to the property developers that own the club who will simply use it to pay off debt owed to themselves, or give it to the Supporters Trust where it will be ring fenced in their bank account and used if the club cant find a buyer.
Option 1 is just throwing good money after bad, and Option 2 will only work if these anti Trust people start to put the club before some ridiculous message board spat 99% of fans know nothing about and care nothing about.

Even admin on here won’t post his name, why ???

That link don't work So who is he then bresslaw

Art Garfunkel

I don’t care who he is. Why do people post on here complaining that someone else doesn’t mention some blokes name on here. It doesn’t matter who he is. You won’t get everybody on side atvye same time. Even when we are top of the league there’s people who think they can do a better job more quickly. Why spend any more time going on about it? Fancy dress Elite is bad enough once a year. Let him get on with it whoever he may be and good luck to him. What is the plan from here? What do the Trust intend to do and how can people contribute?

The trust already have a plan of action, meeting regularly and waiting for pieces to fall into place, the Xmas holidays haven`t helped with people being away etc.
if people join the trust you will be updated and informed of initiatives, use of your vote will be required, watch the space(HUST website, email and HUST fb page.

EMAIL addresses, so important they are correct and updated for communications.

Champion. And I expect that things will take time as they always do with these things, so I hope people will be patient and the staff can manage to put a side out that looks like a team.

Champion. And I expect that things will take time as they always do with these things, so I hope people will be patient and the staff can manage to put a side out that looks like a team.

Are you a member? If you are you will have had an email Sunday

If you’re not then go to the website, fb, twitter etc have a look about n if you like see about joining.


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One man trying to derail this remains anonymous. Why

Maybe people just don`t understand what we are trying to achieve.

Yet again he has got exactly the response he wanted. You now have people on the other message board calling Trust Board Members wankers and saying they are up their own arses. Within 24 hours it has gone from him wanting to " bring all fans together " to him sitting back on his own message board and letting people openly abuse the Trust Board, who he knows do not have a right of reply.
And he seriously expects people to turn up at a meeting next week to bring people together when he allows people on his message board to post abuse ? You couldn't make this stuff up could you ?

Something or someone must be alienating all these people from the Trust. It can't be that clear cut that they are all wrong and the Trust are all right.
No axe to grind just puzzled and curious.
The Trust story sounds so right but these rifts can't be caused completely by every one else being wrong.

Everyone else????
It's about 6 people at the most!!!!!

Yes, 'everyone else' was badly worded. Maybe these six or so people are just so vociferous they seem to come across as alot of opposition. But groups non the less. Why the animosity?

I think they are alienating themselves from the Trust as they clearly haven't taken the time to even find out what a Trust is and what it can achieve instead putting ridiculous personal agendas ahead of the clubs future. Including some of the younger disenters who clearly have no idea. As has been said about five million times any one them could put themselves forward to be a board member.

Actively trying to divert funds and members from the Trust is beyond belief as is the suggestion I have just read from the Mr Blue that the solution to all of this would be for Mr I to 'close down the Bunker' What the fuck!? Where does he's live, North Korea? So anyone who questions his highly questionable motives needs to be censored then we can all move forward? Utter, utter madness. I don't think he even begins to realise how damaging his actions are.

It all goes back to a bit of piss taking or a fall out on a message board and they think that is worthy of this farcial situation, me ,me, me. Get over yourselves and fucking grow up. It's the most embarrassing situation I have ever encountered in my life. These are grown men. They only ever needed one group; The irrational hatred of the Bunker group!!! Deep down it all starts and ends with that.

Seriously if they can't put that to one side for the greater good then their is no hope.

Oh the irony in your posts PJ, you must be too thick to know that a bit of "piss taking on your part" turns people off the bunker and in turn because of the real or imagined connection of bunker individuals to the trust it hurts the trust.

Was having a reasonable debate on their page last night but looks like I've been kicked out of the page.

The bunker always gets a lot of stick but it uncovered TMH well before pools did, it uncovered coxalls winding up petitions before any journos and its members helped form the trust (alongside members of the into the blue forum, fb page and plenty of other non forum using fans)

The banter on here isn’t for everyone but this place has its heart in the right place.

I’d like to think if the bunker was a person it might be someone like John Oliver.


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I wouldn’t be throwing around the word thick when you clearly don’t get it.

People have long standing grudges with this message board for stuff that happened years ago. Piss take threads about the fancy dress ect. This long standing grudge is now manifested itself it something very damaging at a time when people need to put the past behind them and go forward as one.

The future of HUFC v messageboard spat

7 out of 10 are not on the bunker, inc chair and vice chair, what powers do you think they have, voting systems etc.

Nobody has stolen, slept with wives, committed perjury, it is a child like scenario of you said, he said, think Trump and Kim Jung Do, pissing contest and when they met a few months ago it was amicable face to face, behind the keyboard with Keith Lemon!

The trust has how many members.. the bunker or any other message board has how many members... I think whoever is stirring the shit should get over themselves and do what is BEST FOR HUFC and that definitely not starting another fucking group because someone took the piss 5years ago.. 5 years ago we weren't on the brink of becoming a non entity we are now..

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People are grasping the situation , only not as one. Its quite clear the other group think they have got it right and that if anyone can save the club they can , not The Trust. They are sadly mistaken , but what more can The Trust do?.

The only way this will be sorted if it ever is , is when the fateful day arrives. Then whichever group is strongest in terms of finance and support will step in and save the club , or more than likely with both sides being woefully short on numbers and therefore finance to go it alone , the club will die.

We already have a group that has helped to save the club on at least three previous occasions. It's called the Supporters Association. I suggest that people who are worried about the future of our football club get down to the Corner Flag on Friday night and join. They already have a number of fund raising efforts on going. Any help will be most appreciated.

Someone in the supporters association once tried to get me locked up at an away game, so I won't be joining.

It's like three men in a one man dinghy trying to paddle ashore before they're swept away by the current and paddling in different directions.
Ffs get it sorted before it's too late.

Phil, the Supporters Association exists to provide moral and financial support to Hartlepool Utd. and to provide a focal point where supporters can meet,principally on match days. The S.A. have achieved these aims with varying degrees of success over the years. The Corner Flag being its biggest achievement. The Trust I think has different aims principally to provide a financial safety net if H.U.F.C ever got into serious financial difficulties.

This ^^^^

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NSD group defunct now, apparently.

Given Ronnie Harnish is at the top of the tree in both organisations, and the Trust seem to hold most of their meetings at The Corner Flag, you would like to think so.

Yes he reckons there is a consortium in place ready to take over the club. I hope he isn't talking about the one headed up by Raj Singh that are sniffing around. Possibly the only way the club could become more of a laughing stock than it already is.

The difference between the Trust and the Supporters Association is, to me at least, fairly clear. And both groups can and should work alongside each other for the benefit of the football club. I think this is, to a large extent, already happening.
Reading a lot of the comments on the FB page and on the other board it is clear that some people STILL don't really understand what the Trust is all about. They still think it is about taking over the club and ask how this can be done with £16K in the bank.
Does it need to be spelt out in the clearest terms possible just what the aims are so that nobody ( except maybe those who do not want to understand) is under any misconceptions.
I understand the animosity of some to things that have been said in the past. People have been ridiculed, laughed at and ultimately banned off the Bunker for having a different view to the "clique" who were responsible for a lot of this. I was banned myself at one stage for daring to have a different point of view. However, that was in the past and it is now time to move on.
We all want the same thing, and that is to see HUFC survive. We cannot achieve that if people are pulling in different directions. NOW is the time for people to get together or it will be too late and there will be no club left to save!

This can’t be the work of one man, no one man is this stupid. Perhaps he’s having us all on and it’s comedy genius.


‘........Shows how it isn't been run correctly then doesn't it, because first if all yes, your a charity, your a trust every thing has got to be transparent, every penny, cost s etc to every member, this is not a business, this I repeat is a trust, a charity.

Next yes it is clear if you have plans to make a offer to take over the club, which I understand that is what the recent vote is about, then yes you should have in details for members to read how you plan to do this, how the trust plan to use there money raised to do so, and how they plan to to move forward once they have control of the club, now remember this is not a darlo who have gone bust and started as a new team, this is a fully working football club, that is still running as Hartlepool United LTD, you go in to a solicitor with oh we want to run the club and that's it, he will laugh at you, and members need to know how much this is going to cost them and what would be expected of them, oh sorry is that to business like, and makes too much sense and not pipe dream fantasy football.

This is real life not fantasy football,you know what from a outsider you look amateur, I even asked a friend of mine who is now chairman of a trust to look threw your statements, how it looks from the outside, in case I was been to harsh and was wrong, and even he said doesn't look very professional at all, he felt it looks made up as you go along.

The trust needs a total reorganizing from top to bottom, but it own happen and I don't need to say who or who......’



Oh, and if he moans that he’s being mocked again, then with this sort of shite it’s fully deserved !