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 Post subject: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:47 pm 
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He has just said out of the current squad Featherstone is the only current player who was of League 3 quality ?


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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League 3? When did that happen?

Loach could and probably will play at a higher level.

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...and probably already has!

No disrespect to Eddie Kyle but he's not been a league manager for a number of years so his opinion is no more relevant than any other fan. That said, I'd agree with him apart from I don't think Featherstone is either.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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He said if Featherstone had been fit at the start of the season he would have been gone, he said whilst Loach is a good shotstopper he is reluctant to come for crosses and teams are aware of that plus we currently don’t have any deeent centre backs too cover for him.
TBH he was quite scathing about Pools, Uncle Ken wouldn’t would have barred him from the ground if he was still there after his comments.
He does say he scouts for other clubs and there are decent part time players there but they can’t afford to go full time, a problem he said existed when he was Assistant to Murray.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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IMO he is league 2 quality, as we would no doubt find out if he left. I would say Laing is as well, and possibly Loach , Adams, Magnay and Hawkins.

No one else though.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
PostPosted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:02 pm 
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IMO he is league 2 quality, as we would no doubt find out if he left. I would say Laing is as well, and possibly Loach , Adams, Magnay and Hawkins.

No one else though.


Are you joking with Laing?


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I woudnt of said Laing is like I'd class him in the same bracket as Harrison (Scott).


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Magnay would definitely get into a lot of league 2 sides.

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I'd say Laing is marginally better than Harrison currently but that's not a positive reference. Harrison has looked capable in the league in the past but now I'd back my grandma to turn him inside out.


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Hawkins?


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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Sadly the truth hurts and Eddie Kyle is just about right. With better and more consistent players around them the likes of Featherstone, Woods, and Magnay (when match fit that is) could possibly secure bit parts in L2 squads although none could be seriously considered as first choice players. And if Molly Flinders can hold down a place as an EFL first team regular then there must surely be hope for Scott Loach without whom we would surely be looking at a relegation battle already.

The remainder of the squad that clinched relegation in such dramatic style last season coupled with the less-than-inspiring signings that Harrison has since drafted in are playing at their true level - or perhaps one division above that in some cases. Kyle has effectively hit the nail on the head as to why the oversize, overrated 29x professional squad that Harrison has assembled will not feature in the promotion race this season without major surgery.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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I'd respect anything Eddie Kyle says, he's vastly experienced and says things the way he see's them, he's not frightened to be brutally honest instead of pussy footing around comments about our current crop of players like some former professionals would, blaming any external factors they can think of except their fellow folk. He's like the majority of our fan's greatly frustrated at our complete lack of consistency, constant glaring mistakes, and total inability of players to learn anything from their persistent gaff's.
He even mentioned the fact that other scouts had told him about our complete lack of width and narrow set-up, and that other teams have set out to exploit this when playing against us this season.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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monkeybutt wrote:
horden wrote:
IMO he is league 2 quality, as we would no doubt find out if he left. I would say Laing is as well, and possibly Loach , Adams, Magnay and Hawkins.

No one else though.


Are you joking with Laing?


No! not saying he has played well this season, he hasn't , but think he is div 2 player, he has played there before so why not?. A lot of these players are sh*t because of the club, coaching or players around them. Toto , Carroll, Amond, were no better, but doing ok, now they've left.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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horden makes a valid point. The league consists of many players people would deem not good enough for league football, squads would be very small if they were only made up of players everyone thought were up to the standard.

Fact is all our players are National League standard right now and for me only Loach and Franks have stood out for us this season. I can see that Loach is not great at coming off his line but few are around this level his shot stopping is better than most I've seen in League 2 over the years. Franks has had numerous chances in League football before and never did it consistently, without him this season though I dread to think where we may of been.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
PostPosted: Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:42 am 
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monkeybutt wrote:
horden wrote:
IMO he is league 2 quality, as we would no doubt find out if he left. I would say Laing is as well, and possibly Loach , Adams, Magnay and Hawkins.

No one else though.


Are you joking with Laing?


No! not saying he has played well this season, he hasn't , but think he is div 2 player, he has played there before so why not?. A lot of these players are sh*t because of the club, coaching or players around them. Toto , Carroll, Amond, were no better, but doing ok, now they've left.


Laing cannot judge a ball in the air, he would be lucky to be division 2 of Northern league.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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He should stick to being superman's bird.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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Eddie Kyle talks sense.
As for our team, the the trouble is that Harrison still doesn't know his best team and formation and constantly tinkers with it. Players are in then out of the team so how are they expected to achieve any sort of form?
He should by now have his settled team and a game plan, he hasn't and it shows.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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paulus the woodgnome and a side salad wrote:
I'd respect anything Eddie Kyle says, he's vastly experienced and says things the way he see's them, he's not frightened to be brutally honest instead of pussy footing around comments about our current crop of players like some former professionals would, blaming any external factors they can think of except their fellow folk. He's like the majority of our fan's greatly frustrated at our complete lack of consistency, constant glaring mistakes, and total inability of players to learn anything from their persistent gaff's.
He even mentioned the fact that other scouts had told him about our complete lack of width and narrow set-up, and that other teams have set out to exploit this when playing against us this season.


Eddie Kyle was also the only person in the media calling out coxall for the crook he is when the rest of them were cosying up for golf days n talk ins.

Seems to always call it how he sees it, blunt but fair.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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Eddie Kyle said Paulm is the best Paul though so for me judgement is still out.


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TBF i may have called this too soon, i dont even know if he wears happy socks or them other reject ones.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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why is it managers are willing to shot themselves in the foot
by playing players they have signed themselves when they
are no better than what they already have

pretty stupid


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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Eddie Kyle talks sense.
As for our team, the the trouble is that Harrison still doesn't know his best team and formation and constantly tinkers with it. Players are in then out of the team so how are they expected to achieve any sort of form?
He should by now have his settled team and a game plan, he hasn't and it shows.


I don't get this insistence of having a "best team", its a squad game, players offer different things, why does there have to be a rigid 11 names that are the "best team"?

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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We have 2 or 3 ok players but as a team we are currently 14th best of a league that is totally cack and we supposingly throwing a big budget at an instant return to league two.
Really do hope we shape up for the second half of season and finish in top seven.
Its the least our brilliant supporters deserve.


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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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Your always going to need from time to time to rotate players due to injury, generally fitness and loss of form.

I always like to see a settled spine, if you think of any decent pools team over the years they've always had a strong core, with the few squad players moved in and out not for the sake of it.

The squad this season has been constantly shuffed.

Have we had a settled cb partnership?

A settled midfield 2/3?

A constant striker or striker partnership?

TBH we seem to have played every formation under the sun at some point aswell.

I'm not even gunna go into this seasons injury record.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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ptbap wrote:
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Eddie Kyle talks sense.
As for our team, the the trouble is that Harrison still doesn't know his best team and formation and constantly tinkers with it. Players are in then out of the team so how are they expected to achieve any sort of form?
He should by now have his settled team and a game plan, he hasn't and it shows.


I don't get this insistence of having a "best team", its a squad game, players offer different things, why does there have to be a rigid 11 names that are the "best team"?
You don't have to have a rigid 11 names, however, most successful teams have a solid foundation aka the best team, you pick your best players, you don't rotate them like carrots and spuds in an allotment because you can. In sport, business in fact anything you have the best doing the business.
Successful teams have more or less automatic choices for places, Harrison sees it from a different perspective.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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In my view Harrison sees everything from a different perspective entirely due to his inexperience - and worse, he is an embarrassment to the club every time he opens his mouth. His inane media statements - the latest classic being 'we're gonna win the league' - may have produced the desired effect on the Dog and Duck players of his world-beating TNS outfit but have had the opposite effect here, fuelling the resolve of opponents to raise their game against so-called 'superior opposition'. In fact I would suggest that Harrison is the National League equivalent of Donald Trump.

I'm not sure what it is going to take to shift him but IMO every week of his continued employment by HUFC is a wasted one. Two defeats in next eight days and we can effectively forget about promotion this season as we would need to hit championship-winning form in the New Year - and that simply ain't gonna happen - in fact we may yet be dragged into a relegation battle with this wholly inadequate squad.


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What an outlook, I feel sorry for you Smokin joe. Absolute drivel, we are middle of the league after years of decline. I know, lets sack the manager, that's a tried and tested formula that's worked for us over the years.

As for an embarrassment, yeah of course.

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 Post subject: Re: Eddie Kyle Comment on Tees
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What an outlook, I feel sorry for you Smokin joe. Absolute drivel, we are middle of the league after years of decline. I know, lets sack the manager, that's a tried and tested formula that's worked for us over the years.

As for an embarrassment, yeah of course.


Keep your phoney sympathy Mr Redspex - save that for the thousand (and ever-growing) number of Pools fans who committed themselves and hard earned cash to the club in anticipation of perhaps not an immediate return to the FL after 96 years - but at least a realisitic challenge to do so. Yes we are a in the middle of 'a league' after years of decline but one whch a club of Pools stature whould be doing much much better than they are under the clown Harrison. If you really are satisfied with a middle of the table in htis Godforsaken division then you are even more blinded than you are making out to be.

I have not always ageed with Chip but he is absoulutely spot on with his posting elsewhere on this board i.e.;

We have a manager stood like a rabbit caught in the headlights, either unable to see what is happening on the pitch, or unable to react to it. Just close the game out FFS, go 4-5-1 if you have to, take off the tired players, and shore up your midfield. We have lads out on their arses with 20 minutes to go and unbelievably they stay on the pitch, even when everyone in the ground can see the tide turning.
I appreciate money is tight, but the owners took the cheap option in the Summer when they chose a manager, and by Christ are we paying for it now. Anyone even remotely competent would have this squad in the top 7 of such a bad league.


I reiterate that Harrison needs to be dispatched ASAP we are wasting precious time with this guy at the helm - and yes he IS an utter embarrassment to the club and the town. I hear that he locked everyone in the changing room after the game and they are still in there - you can bet your life though that when he does emerge he will be absolutely blameless for today's defeat of course.


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Each to there own opinions but if mid table in this league is stopping years of decline then i will write a letter to Santa for a new manager.


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To be honest I would settle for mid-table at this point KP but if the buffoon Harrison is permitted to continue in his current position and the prospects of a promotion challenge further recede I firmly believe that we will be looking over our shoulders before too long - I've seen this happen all too often in the past 50 years.


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