Yep, there's one common denominator in all of this but he hides behind halfwits willing to follow his lead. Those who follow don't have the raw intelligence to work out that they're being used and manipulated.

He was spat on and had someone screaming in his face. He pushes him away and recieved a punch in the face from this hero. Now you have his little gang claiming otherwise but the tqhey would say that wouldn't they.

Not sure what playground you are thinking about but my memories at school didn't include being spat at and punched by grown ups.

Merely for being a member of a professionally ran and supported trust.

And what with the written threats that we have all seen the other week it's all very un playground like.

I was referring to the intellect of the clowns from elsewhere. Barely a thought amongst them !!

I predicted the other week that things would get nasty. Fans fighting with fans on the terraces is just what the club doesn't need right now. Why would John Blackledge want to be involved when the fans can't even pull together. I find it quite illogical and also very worrying.

I wouldn’t blame all of the Trust committee for just standing down. Is it worth it really?

There appears to be another collective that will jump in and replace it anyway. When it involves physical abuse it’s time to walk away !!

The trouble with that though is that we let down the 800+ people who joined. Those against the trust don't really understand what they're on about. They listen mostly to one bitter voice. Those against number between 15 to 20 which doesn't make much of a majority against 850. They of course claim that 850 isn't a majority of fans but it is a huge majority of those who voted and a bigger percentage than almost all trusts.

As an aside, by using the same method of assuming the silent majority supports you as the detractors do, you could put the BNP or the Raving Loony party in Downing Street! Its really not a valid measurement.

The reality is that the Trust is neccesary and will in due course, long after I've stepped down, own the club on behalf of the 99% of decent supporters. There are those who witter that the net worth of the Trust isn't enough. Of course it isn't but then its not meant to and even a cursery view of trust operations would show you why its an irrelevant measure. The funds to run the club come from elsewhere other than membership.

These though are facts so will be ignored by the naysayers in favour of rabid nonsense. Just remembed that it was the Trust who protected the ground from Coxberg. It was the Trust (those pesky detectives) who outed Coxberg when all around were believing his nonsense. It is the Trust that work with Sage towards securing the future of the club.

As for an ego trip; I drove 300 miles last Wednesday night after work for a mèeting and left at 11. I don't remember much of an ego trip when I got in at 3am and got up again at 6. I'm not asking for any medals but we don't expect or deserve the abuse either.

Read the comments on the current argument on Facebook. I hope they are the 20 !

I have but I'm not responding and wasting time I won't get back.

850 is a major percentage of our home attendances. Foook this little gang of 15-20 what sort of percentage is that compared to 850 . Keep up the good work keep your committee together and stay strong because if you lot drop out god help us in the future because nobody else would do what you lads have done for the love of our football club. TOTAL RESPECT TO YOU ALL

I would agree the ‘fook’ them stance but when people are getting punched it’s beyond that !

We shouldn't give in to bully boy tactics either.

The fun has been sucked out of football.

Done with this shite, not going to be going again. Fuck the trust????

Fuck Pools. They'll be sorry when the club goes fucking bust after another set of cowboys roll into town.

You're meant to enjoy hobby's, how is this enjoyment? People fighting in the stands, fans arguing with each other. I'd rather walk round Primark for 90 minutes than deal with this any longer.

Good luck to the real fans who just want to safeguard the club.

Football used to be about coming together and enjoying something, not this bollocks. What's the point?

I echo that Mr.Twilight!!!!

Fold the trust, lets go stand outside a pub with a big flag instead.

Pathetic.

Songs about throwing people in the docks , going home in a Cleveland Ambulance and kicking certain fans off the cliffs of dover where regularly sang in times past..Along with the famous Ritchie Humphreys song.. (although I'm sure Mr I never took part is singing the latter)..The relevance of such ditties faded as soon as the game finished. If we allow a daft song to destroy whole idea of the trust it will end up destroying the club and it will happen sooner than we think.. ..

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I think throwing punches as a result of differences is slightly more worrying than ditties.....

Well from where I'm sitting its looking like a he did / he did type of argument with both sides blaming each other. Not seeing any evidence to the contrary and speaking from the outside it would make far more sense for the parties to meet and sort it out with a chat and maybe a pint. Thats the Poolie way it is not?

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Used to be but no longer it seems.

Nah. The Poolie way was sort out yer differences "outside", shake hands and then go for a pint.
This scenario is sinister and deliberately organised, culminating in goading a person or persons into retaliation and then conveniently forgetting the provocation, simply to have a go at something which could end up being the very salvation of the Football Club.
It is a cancer that could potentially finish us by driving out the people who are trying to steer the club into calmer waters.
Like 99% of cancers it needs rooting out.
I expect the club to take a very firm stance on this situation and, at the very least, start banning orders.
When people feel intimidated by their so called fellow Poolies, especially away from home, then drastic measures are the order of the day.

I don,t do facebook or the other so called pools boards but if this filthy bastard did spit in someones face thay should have been pointed out to the police and banned from all football grounds for life, same goes for the ones racially abusing any players not just Pools players , get them pointed out and route them out, low life dirty scum.

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God bless all the volunteers who saved us,especially those who stuck their neck out the most when the need was there..

Derwent is the voice of firm reason and clear logic once again with that post. Fully agree with everything posted there

Like a trust open night on October 2nd?


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How many actually went to the Trust open night? Board members aside?

This is somewhat depressing, I was at Woking but didn't hear anything, doesn't really matter. I'm a proud Trust member, and 15 or so people won't convince me that it's a bad thing, not even sure what they could say to start that conversation, it's simply NOT a bad idea. Trusts are a tried and tested formula, I want my football club to have a future, I believe the Trust is the best hope for that.

If some people don't agree, so what, jog on. If somebody has experienced physical violence, the police should be involved, simply not acceptable.

If you mean the meet the Board it was 7, if you mean the open night at the Corporation club it was 200.

If i was as vocal as some people are against the trust (I never would be, if i dont like something i tend to not mention it every 5 seconds to anyone who'll listen) and i had doubts i'd turn up at a meeting and try and find out what the crack is. If people dont wanna part with 20 squid and join thats totally fine. Just dont join. But the need to sling mud is bizarre, and probably fueled by the need to serve their own agendas and motives.

There's all kinds of weird half truths flying about that people have been peddling, I had a read of Facebook last night n some of the stuff people are saying is a bit weird, "the guy who owns the bunker owns the trust".

I've never seen so many wrong things in one sentence.

This is what I don't get. Where does the anger come from? What is there to be angry about? If you don't like it then don't join the trust, don't support the trust. I suppose football fans can be just generally angry and then these guys are far worse than your average football fan.

I heard the song at Bromley but couldn't actually make out the last part. I though they were singing "when your club means nothing at all" which at the time I thought was quite witty. Ignorance was bliss.

People especially young impressionable ones believe what they are told a lot of the time. When presented with an easy solution they accept it rather than dig deeper and find out the truth behind things. You see it every day with the shit peddled by Britain First and UKIP.. its in the Daily Mail /a certain messageboard/ Facebook Page so it must be true... I don't know who or what to blame but it does seem hard for some youngsters to think for themselves...

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Very true offshore, i seen one guy yesterday slagging the trust off, then ended with "but I've not really read up much about it to know what its really about."

Words fail me at times.

It's almost as if someone was coordinating the whole thing from a WhatsApp group, wrongly believing that it's secure and others don't get the nonsense that is being disseminated.

You're on. Shall we say half-past twelve at Can Titi?

Surely not?

Anyway, I have no idea what a WhatsApp group is.

I think maybe I will keep it that way.

Aye if him/her/they are not worried about their ever disintegrating cover, they bloody well ought to be. Terrorism takes many forms and guises but the results are usually the same.

Suggesting that people who oppose the Trust are terrorists seems more than a bit too strong Mr Derwent. Spitting and sending threats are both clearly completely unacceptable but I can't see how terrorism is good word to use in the circumstances.

I get the context Mr Toulouse, we think of it only in the context of ISIS etc these days but by definition terrorism is the use of violence and intimidation to achieve your aims to undermine or bring something down. On that basis Derwent is right in that a known individual has been agitating and coercing others in the background for a while now, this crossed the line at the weekend into violence and their cover is blown. I hope action is taken somehow but let’s see.

I get your point in that the use of the word terrorism today is associated to something much bigger and more devastating than what we are talking about

The commentary did mention a blue smoke bomb on Saturday.

Coming together is a beginning; keeping together is progress; working together is success.

I am not suggesting people who oppose the Trust are Terrorists, Mr T. Far from it. If a person wants to oppose the Trust then that is absolutely fine by me.
What I am suggesting is intimidating people to impose your will or belief or call it what you want is a form of terrorism, which is why I qualified it by suggesting it comes in different guises. You often hear people complaining that hooligans are terrorising their neighbourhood. That is the context in which I am using the word. At what point does a person become a terrorist? Answer (in my book), when he/she/they start imposing themselves upon others in an intimidating or violent manner. You don't have to chuck bombs about to become a terrorist.

The meet the Board I was referring too, so not really a successful meeting then. Maybe it's time to take a few steps back. Some of the comments on here/facebook are laughable and don't do either side any good. At the end of the day we are talking about a football club not terrorism or Secure whatsapp groups FFS were just football fans. Fighting amongst ourselves isn't going to do any good and would Pools want to be involved in anything like this if they've read both here and Facebook the last few days. Time to chill out and let's get back to just Supporting the Team and let all the stupid politics die down, just leave all the laughable stuff to the MPs of the world!!

Aye, which I spent a good 10 minutes breathing in. Fucking lovely it was.

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I'd love to agree but thats much easier when you're not the subject of either a violent attack or a character assassination.

I can see your point Mr D, problem is that things can be taken out of context and used to make matters worse. If what people are saying about threats, character assassination and spitting is true (and I've got no reason to disbelieve it) why give people who are set on causing bother ammunition?

First of all The Board of The Trust made themselves available to anyone who wished to meet them. There were no caveats to that invitation. I would put it to you that because only 7 turned up that could be interpreted that the membership are happy with the board. Obviously no one had any serious issues with them or said people would have been queueing up to confront them. I didn't go because of those reasons, so the turn out is irrelevant.
Secondly, I agree with you that some of the comments made both on here and facebook are laughable but this is not a laughing matter, it is serious. For some time now an element of our support have made disparaging remarks about The Trust and even made up songs/chants etc, mostly at away grounds. This element is allegedly 20 to 30 strong, whereas the Trust membership is 850 strong and, at no time have any members of The Trust gathered together to sing any sort of reply or retaliation.
This behaviour drew a blank, no one was taking any notice of these chanters. A nerve was struck, insomuch that, at South Shields last Saturday the chanting changed to intimidation.
Now what do we collectively do about it. We could have a meeting between the Trust and ANY person or persons that have any misgivings as to the purpose or intent of the Trust. Well the Trust tried that, they invited people to come and discuss matters with the Board of the Trust. Now if you or I or any other person was so disenchanted with the Trust, here was a Golden opportunity to air our views, get questions answered, allay our fears etc etc etc etc. Was that opportunity taken? No it wasn't.
So, on the one hand, we have a small, minority and disgruntled group resorting to intimidation to impose their will and the rest of us resorting to absolute disgust as to the behaviour of this minority, without any sign of violence.
We are trying to make sure that there is no physical escalation of this situation by highlighting this disgraceful behaviour and by demanding it is stamped out before someone gets hurt.
Of course we would like a peaceful and amicable solution to this unfortunate position we find ourselves in, we all hopefully agree to that.
We have a Trust, just the same as a lot of football clubs. People have a choice as to whether they join or not.
I respect anybody's choice not to join. All I am asking in return is that any choice I make gets equal respect.

People will put whatever slant they want on any post. More often than not depending on their opinion of the poster (in this case me). There is nothing I can do about that.
If people are terrified by intimidation, and it is terrifying, then I want to call it so. If this behaviour escalates to the point were someone dies or gets seriously hurt then what??
There are elderly folk who follow Pools ( me included). What if this intimidation induces a heart attack? We are under enough duress from the actions on the pitch without having to be intimidated off it.
This situation is serious, any comment that accentuates the gravity is necessary in an attempt to stop it in it's tracks.