Some player.

England look much better with him playing.

Even though he was to blame for the first goal.

There again why does a manager want a player like him that deep.

I remember a few, mainly me, saying he should of played more at the last world cup.

Where's that smug smiley thing.

Class above and nice goal.

In contrast Oxlaide Chamberlain is bobbins

He's a frustrating player as he seems to have all the attributes, he's certainly not bobbins it's just that final ball or decision. He's still young though.

I quite enjoyed the England game tonight especially second half they stepped it up and controlled the game against a half decent team.

Mind he was only just 16 at the last World Cup and had never even played for Man Utd's reserve team.

Definitely should be in the team every game now.

That would be some foresight before anybody had heard of him

He was man of the match in the Iceland horror and only played about six minutes though in the Euros.

Going forward I thought England looked promising. Dele Alli had an underrated game for me, got into some great positions with some intelligent movement creating space for others.

He isn't bobbins but nowhere near the amount of money the bin dippers paid out for him, brawn over footballing brains, has he even scored more than twenty goals since he joined the Arse?

Nobody is worth the money anybody is paying for them, it's not the players fault though.

I think I heard last week that he scored 7 Premier League goals for Arsenal which is a shocking return for someone of his ability really.

It was probably hard for Ali tonight to play his normal game with Glenn hoddle so far up his arse.

Didn't enjoy his performance tonight, Ali that is, tried to hard, kept hold of the ball too long n just played for himself:

I understand he plays on the edge, but his finger up to the ref will probably get him a ban: he's easy our next tournament red card.


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Giving the ref 'the bird' might get him in some bother mind

He was England's best player for me we just didn't use him enough especially first half.

Hoddle talks a lot of sense, he should be involved with England in a coaching capacity. He's been wasted in a commentary box for years.

He talks a good game. But as a manager he's done nowt n still living off going out in the 2nd round with England 20 year ago.




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Didn't select Gazza despite him being in the best form of his career at that point. Also played Scholes on the left wing.

It's a no from me.

He's never been given the opportunity because of some ill advised comments down to his religious beliefs. He was doing a very good job as England manager at the time. He understands the game and knows how to get the best out of footballers. To think people like Sam Allardyce have got the top job while he can't get a job for anyone. He was a great player and a good manager.

Before France 98 Gazza was in the best form of his career?

Are you sure?

He was playing for Boro not very well added to its notorious drinking culture at the time, and off the field his life had started to go completely off the rails.

Glen hoddle managed Spurs wolves and Southampton after England and His comments and shit it at all of them.

(I love how you said ill advised comments, like someone would tell you to say what he did)

He was a fantastic player, one of the best, and is a good coach. But can't manage.

I like rashford tho, just putting this back on point.


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Was a decent game tonight. England still the best of the rest, but still miles behind the top 6 national teams in the world. The pace we have up front gets us off the hook in many games. Some of the passing and movement of Slovakia was a different class to us, our players seem to be thinking on their feet when they get the ball, not really sure what to do and were to put the ball. The amount of shots we had that didn't hit the target was staggering.

Why don't you just say what you think ! instead of fudging the issue

He played for rangers until that summer, think he went just before the transfer deadline to Boro?

Scored near enough 1 in 2 for Rangers from midfield. I'd say that he was in his best form there, definitely.

Politely ignored my comment about Scholes as well, the most under utilised international player ever.

Paul Scholes scores goals.

The England job will always be a difficult job , because of the English game and its players, the game is intense, physical, direct and few of our players have the experience of playing abroad. Hoddle was one of the few players that did play abroad , as were Venables and Robson in terms of managing abroad. No coincidence they were probably some of our better managers.

Hoddle did a great job at Swindon Town, got them playing total football and promotion to the Premier , but was more or less all downhill after that as a manager.

Anybody who thinks Gazza was anywhere near his best form before the 98 World Cup needs to YouTube highlights of the 90/91 season when he was as good any English player in last 50 years. Utterly unplayable and often drunk whilst he was.

I don't doubt he was quality for spurs, but watch him for Rangers. Lesser opposition maybe but he was absolutely unplayable.

Signed for Boro March 98. He was playing okay for boro , whether it was international standard who knows, but you're correct in saying his wayward self destruct celebrity lifestyle was well under way by the time of the 98 World Cup, leading Hoddle to not risk taking him

hoddles not the full shilling, disability is payback? And don't forget Eileen Drewry or whatever the fookmshe was called.

Mind you Ray Parlour asking for a short back and sides was quite funny


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Could never fathom why hoddle ignored le tiss aswell. He was probably the most hoddlesque player since hoddle himself


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I don't remember it so I couldn't comment really, Hoddle gave Scholes his debut though and he only played a handful of his caps under him, plus England under Hoddle looked a really good team. About as good as I can remember, I can remember the magnificent performance in Rome to qualify for France 98 and we were unlucky at that World Cup not helped by Beckhams daft red. I remember the great goal Scholes scored in the first game that we won 3-0. I doubt Hoddle ever played him left wing as he was one English manager who didn't play 4-4-2 in straight lines, I remember him and playing there under Keegan. Hoddle is about the most tactically astute manager we've had.

Gazza though? He was an absolute mess before that World Cup, his serious drinking has started and he wasn't fit. He did do well for Rangers but with respect he was playing in the SPL and then he signed for a Championship Club. Obviously a clamour existed to pick him because everyone loved him but the reality of the situation was very different.

He got the England job in the first place because he got Swindon Town promoted to the top flight then did a good job at Chelsea. He never recovered after the whole Ilene Drury/press stritch up on his supposed comments about disabled people though.

He was a fucking idiot with all that. The press at that point were at their absolute worst when it came to England, they should have just shut up shop and stopped giving interviews after the Euro 96 hatchet job.

they weren't 'supposed' PJ, the cocksocket actually said it and as for employing a fucking faith healer, might as well of got mystic meg in as well...

In 1990/91 before his shocking tackle on Gary Charles that snapped his ACL he was one of the best players in the World. So I would strongly disagree that he was in the best form of his career in 1998 when he'd been playing in the SPL and Championship and well was well on the road to becoming a fully blown alcoholic.

Everyone wanted him to go to that World Cup but when you read the full story and background to why he didn't it's very clear. Hoddle gave him every chance as well.

I'm not suggesting he wasn't, but his sacking had nothing to do with football and the pretty good job he was doing.

They were taken out of context as well, he never said that was he though he was taking more broadly about reincarnation. That is why he's not working in football though.

He had to adjust his game after that injury, but was still a very good player for Lazio and Rangers, even at Boro and Everton he did a job, though clearly not the player he had been. If it hadn't been for his off the field problems, he still could of done a job in 98 for England , but you can only drink and do the business for so long, before it catches you up , as George Best found once he left Man U. Like Gascoigne , just the odd flash of genius after that, in the NASL and at Hibs

Of course I meant the euros.

England played reasonably well last night. Were murdered for the first 20 minutes and then, as usual, thought they were Italy when they went 2.1 up.

Duck knows what a decent team with world class strikers will do to that defence though with henderson in front of them as well.

But with kane Rashford alli and either chamberlain or sterling they have pace to frighten plenty of others.

We are going to win the world cup.

Is it wrong to think that Harry Kane is a complete tosser?

Very wrong indeed. You should leave the country.

OK, can I go to Spain? They seem to be good at football again and their sausages are second to none.

yes, as long as accept that its a punishment.

So if I read the last 2 posts it appears Mr Toulouse is being sent to Spain to be punished with high quality sausage.....

Hard but fair.

I thought England played well enough and deserved the win by the end. But for Rashford's early error (a big but, I agree, given these sort of defensive lapses seem to be a feature of England's games against the more competent teams these days) Slovakia barely threatened the goal. It was nice to see that the mistake didn't ruin his game and the strike he produced for the winner was excellent.

I don't understand why Southgate didn't use the same system he'd used on Friday. Given Spurs regularly play a 4-2-3-1 surely it makes sense to play that to optimise the play of Kane and Alli?

The main frustration, for me anyway, about watching England relates to the inevitable fulminations that follow in the media. You could be forgiven for thinking that a lot of the reports on the match were written before a ball had been kicked.

Think England will always be prone to mistakes defensively , as our players aren't as comfortable on the ball as foreign teams. Slovakia were comfortable dribbling and passing to each other in areas no bigger than the size of the average bedroom, in fact they overplayed it at times, not knowing when to pull the trigger and inevitably losing possession. In contrast England seem to have given up on total football , and now do the basics a lot better, such as shooting on sight , though their aim and composure is in need of refinement.

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I don't understand it either. We have 5 Tottenham players in what would be our first choice XI, yet play a different formation to what they are used to. The 4-2-3-1 obviously suits Kane, Alli, Dier, Walker and Rose so why play a stupid 4-4-1-1 formation? Problem is that we have too many wingers like Rashford, Ox, Sterling, who are all technically not very good footballers, but they can run abit quick, and like has been mentioned on here, this seems to be (strangely) the thing that England fans (and managers) want to see. It hasn't worked for years and years, so I don't know why we persist with it.

Don't know why Lallana wasn't involved (assuming injury), but he's our only real technically creative wide player. Without him we just look like an average team, with a couple of sprinters.

Could have Lallana as our Eriksen, no one can get near Dembele though, maybe Wilshere but he's fell off the face of the earth

What's the difference between a technically good footballer and a good footballer?

Rashford looks generally good to me but he's still only young. Sterling does all the little things nicely but lacks end product and Oxlade-Chamberlain seems to have everything except the ability to make the right final choice of pass or shot.

That seems reasonable but the way it gets used about Spain etc the pundits seem to be saying technically good players have all the skills you mention and they make good decisions as well. For me that just makes them good footballers.

I always see the players as shapes. English players are square, Good foreign players are circles.

English players can do the basic well, and are match hardened.

The foreign players seem to be able to control the ball whilst on the half turn and control it and pass it in one movement. Our players take two touches, and never seem to have that peripheral vision.

Someone like Frank Lampard was a top player in this country, but was rubbish when faced with the best foreigners. If you watch him closely the ball always went up in the air when he controlled it.

Foreigners rarely panic on the ball.

And there must be a reason why they rarely just lump the ball forward, giving it to the other team. Whereas English players love a long diagonal ball.

Regularly making the right decisions is what the great players do, where and when to move, where and when to pass, where and when to shoot, when to slow the game down, when to speed the game up etc. doesn't matter how much skill or speed you have if you continually make bad decisions.

Players who run around a lot and ping long balls, or dribble down blind alleys flatter to deceive and fool fans and managers alike.