Right. Just in response to a couple of pretty daft posts on here from surprising people.

Thanks for enlightening me to the fact that its impossible to stop lunatics driving a van into people and stabbing them.

Without your insights I would never have realised.

As I said earlier, the intelligence services will be coming under more scrutiny, and that's exactly whats happening.

And rightly so, as yet again, another murder was known to them, and they appear to have ignored the warnings.

If this had been perpetrated by an unknown twat, then that's different, but they knew of at least one of these c unts.

Rather like the Manchester c unt.

An intelligence service not acting on intelligence is quite worrying.

Which was the point the security expert was referring to that I alluded to earlier.

But of course I wasn't clever enough to think that would be hard to stop someone in a van etc etc. Poor me.

Doing something is better than doing nothing though, don't you think?

And why not ban all flights to Syria, or other places, if that's whats needed?

Make it harder for them to get to these places, and make it even harder for them to get back again.

So some innocent folk will suffer, hard cheese.

I am losing patience with the Muslim community generally, and I consider myself to quite liberal.

There was an Imam on the news this morning trying to claim that all faiths need to come together to solve this.

Sorry like but that's bollocks.

There are Wahhabi mosques funded by Saudi Arabia in the UK that are well known to be trouble, and a terrorist threat.

The muslim community needs to act against these places.

Last time I checked I don't think many Sikh temples have produced suicide bombers.

Heard something that the coppers involved in shooting the three nutters with knifes and possible suicide bomb vest were being investigated for being a bit trigger happy firing 50 shots.

I'm sure it's probably just standard procedure, as with any police firearms incident, that has just been blown out of all proportion but to think anyone who wasn't there could tell them coppers they were wrong is baffling. If it were me my first and only thought until the koranikaze loons were stopped would be to keep shooting to preserve innocent lives as well as my own.
50 shots weren't half as many as the feckers deserved.

I would have fired every fucking bullet I had. And then when they were well dead, I would have fired a few more just to make sure.

I would then have got their knives and chopped off their dicks, stuffed them in their mouths and took photos, and put them all over the internet.

I don't think a muslim man with a dick in his mouth would have got a place at the promised land.

Well that counts all out all the ISI mob then because that's what they do naturally anyway to pass the time!!!!!!

I would have shot them with my Ray Gun

Full respect to the copper who went at all 3 of them armed with only a baton

The wife said to me while we where sat in Dimi restaurant yesterday (which is very nice ) what would I do if something was to happen like that outside while we where in there?

I'd make sure her and kids where out of harms way and arm myself and try and do something, I know its easier said than done but I couldn't live with myself if kids where been attacked while I hid

Aye. Some unreal human stories.

I am on my way down to London this morning. I will certainly be going over there, if open, to pay my respects.

Borough market is my favourite place down there and we cant let these things deter us.

Everytime the police discharge a firearm there's an independent IPCC investigation. It's called accountability for using a lethal weapon. The rule of law; a cornerstone of our democracy, and something we should cherish and defend, not cast aside in the face of danger.

I've just seen the CCTV video of the police shooting, it's utter carnage and panic as you would expect. The only thing I can see that the police did wrong was leave the handbrake off, I mean someone could of been hurt!

I also saw one interview of a bar/restaurant owner who was there and was full of praise for the police and the medics who carried out their duties with no regard for their own safety. Inspiring stuff really.

Apart from the fake suicide belts, the 3 fanatics would have carried on stabbing and killed or injured loads more people if they hadn't been stopped. In a crowded public space the chances of a bullet going astray must have been high, but what else where they to do but open fire? At least they were well trained and good shots.

Anyone trying to make an issue of this wants parachuting into Raqqa with a bag of 'Give Peace A Chance' t-shirts.

I've no problem with people like these getting 50 rounds put it into them, but you can't condone a gung ho shoot to kill policy, like they have in America, and was seen in action in this country a few years ago ,when a Brazilian tourist was gunned down on the tube, this I believe is the wrong way to go.

The action of the police and medical staff on the night was commendable, that's why I will be voting Labour today, I want more of them not less, and I am willing to let the rich pay more in tax to fund it.

I worked in Southwark Street for seventeen years and the Southwark Tavern and the Wheatsheaf were regular haunts. The latter is situated virtually below the railway bridge in Stoney Street and I believe, from the photos, is where these bastards were shot.
During the IRA problems, a car bomb exploded outside the window of my office in High Holborn after the building had been vacated. I was always concerned that one might go off on the Underground but, thankfully, it never happened. Tragically, things have changed since then.
I had to travel into Central London all my working life and you tend to develop a 'thick skin' but, sadly, every one of your fellow passengers etc. who looks a bit 'different' becomes a suspect when the chances of this being the case are minuscule.
I appreciate that the current situation is vastly different from the car bomb era but I still intend to meet up with my old school/work mates around the Borough High Street, Victoria and Trafalgar Square areas.

I lived in London the time of the 7/7 bombings. Everyone was shocked but the thing about it is I was amazed how quickly people put it on the back burner and moved on. Because you have to, it's life.
The met police do an amazing job considering the scale of their task at times.

Really? I really try to open minded about others' views but fuck me...

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Same here Shilts!!!!

Its common knowledge that Saudi Arabia is a huge part of the problem.

Doesnt stop our government sucking up to them.

Precisely my point, Wommers; when you are compelled to do something, you just, well, get on with it.
Regarding 7/7, I was stuck on a train outside Queen's Park for forty minutes and when we finally arrived, we were immediately told to evacuate the station. I intended to continue my journey by bus and asked the 'Bill' standing on the corner of a side street if he knew what the problem was. He replied, with a smile on his face, that there had been a "power surge" but advised me not to attempt to get into Central London. I then had to work out how to get home via a series of unknown bus routes but I did notice a large police presence around Wembley Stadium.
It was only when I finally arrived home around 1pm and people were contacting me to see if I was okay that I learned the truth.