Well labour have gone into an early lead

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 12:27 pm

The Orienteer wrote:

Yeah, I've just made it all up - no-one had heard of Corbyn's support for the IRA before I mentioned it on here.

I think if you re-read your posts you'll find all you've offered so far are weasel words.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:

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At least Corbyn and Labour weren't this bad.

A current Tory MP, and up for reelection. Oh and a former member of the IRA.

She is a Tory councillor but she did write a book..
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Take-Arms-Year ... 0333145062

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KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

Ahh councillor my mistake.

Wonder if the book is worth a read.

PoolieTom · **Joined:** Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:30 am **Posts:** 779

He said just as much on the Q&A session with Paxman the other day too. Bloke in the audience looked a little embarrassed by the end of his question.

It's infuriating that so many people like this orienteer person are so easily lead by the likes of the DM

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Maybe this person gets paid to be a Scandinavian Folklore Charecter on message boards. .Meanwhile back to the tory councillor.. by the looks of her book she did a lot more than rattling tins

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The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

He has stated publically he never met the IRA and he never supported them , and I've seen plenty of evidence to back that up.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 61801.html

You on the other hand have provided none that he did, or that he even ever met members of the IRA. You seem to think regurgitated Daily Mail headlines constitute facts. Alas they do not.

The Orienteer wrote:

I couldn't vote for Labour with Corbyn, McDonnell and the Abottotamus at the helm. Their support for the IRA is a red-line.

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

So the conservatives allowing former IRA members in is OK then?

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:

So the conservatives allowing former IRA members in is OK then?

In my book, absolutely not. As soon as it was discovered who she was, even though she had given up on the PIRA years before she became a Tory councillor, she should have been de-whipped. When I first heard about this story a while back, I was speechless that she still has the Tory whip. I expect she fully renounced the PIRA's terrorist ways in 1972, but you simply don't leave yourself open to be tarred with that brush.

However, let's get things in proportion and remind ourselves that there is also a world of difference between an unknown Croydon Councillor and the Labour 3 who are looking to take over the most important parliamentary positions in the country. I assume you haven't overlooked that the Labour 3's support for the IRA was when they were actual MPs. Sickening.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

I think he works on the basis that if you repeat a lie often enough it becomes the truth.

No, my problem is I give people too much credit to be able to Google items.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... links.html

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

That's some level of drama queenery that, to be sickened over something that didn't even happen 30 years ago.

Are you literally sickened by it ? Does it make you nauseous when you think about it ? Do you think about it regularly ?

It sickens me when I think people are voting for them stpid

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Sickened?

Surely what is far more sickening is the Tories destroyng the NHS, and then claiming they are putting more money because of the "efficiency savings" they are making?

Efficiency savngs? Fuck off.

We all know what they really mean by that.

Nearly as bad as someone claiming to be an expert in change management.

Its called redundancies you c unt.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

The Orienteer wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

That's some level of drama queenery that, to be sickened over something that didn't even happen 30 years ago.

Are you literally sickened by it ? Does it make you nauseous when you think about it ? Do you think about it regularly ?

It sickens me when I think people are voting for them stpid

It heartens me hugely to think I contributed to you being sick.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

The Orienteer wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

That's some level of drama queenery that, to be sickened over something that didn't even happen 30 years ago.

Are you literally sickened by it ? Does it make you nauseous when you think about it ? Do you think about it regularly ?

It sickens me when I think people are voting for them stpid

How about, just for once, you actually answer a question ?

Are you literally sickened by this this ? Do you actually vomit ? Or do you just get a little bit of sick coming up in the back of your throat ?

You appear to be ignorant with your limited understanding of the meaning of the word 'sickening' (not that I'm surprised):

Sickening

causing or liable to cause a feeling of nausea or disgust.

causing great annoyance or disappointment.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Just how many different usernames has Hopps had on here? The threads are always exactly the same as well.

offshorepoolie · **Joined:** Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:32 pm **Posts:** 6011

Chip Fireball wrote:

I will delete his account at half 4.

Good

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poolie · **Joined:** Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 pm **Posts:** 879

I think if you can delete the whole thread and we will all agree to disagree and get back to talking football cos at least when we disagree on football its all good banter and in good spirit.

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

The Orienteer wrote:

KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:

So the conservatives allowing former IRA members in is OK then?

In my book, absolutely not. As soon as it was discovered who she was, even though she had given up on the PIRA years before she became a Tory councillor, she should have been de-whipped. When I first heard about this story a while back, I was speechless that she still has the Tory whip. I expect she fully renounced the PIRA's terrorist ways in 1972, but you simply don't leave yourself open to be tarred with that brush.

However, let's get things in proportion and remind ourselves that there is also a world of difference between an unknown Croydon Councillor and the Labour 3 who are looking to take over the most important parliamentary positions in the country. I assume you haven't overlooked that the Labour 3's support for the IRA was when they were actual MPs. Sickening.

So a conservative councillor that actively engaged in IRA membership, who gleefully wanted as many British soldiers dead as possible, is less sickening than people who may or may not have tried to engage terror groups to reduce further loss of life on both sides.

And let's ignore that the Tories were also secretly engaging the IRA too eh?

Oh and the Queen met Martin mcguinness

And prince Charles met Gerry Adams

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

offshorepoolie wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

I will delete his account at half 4.

Good

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Yes, keep your naive and ignorant echo chamber pure - very progressive :laugh:

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:

So a conservative councillor that actively engaged in IRA membership, who gleefully wanted as many British soldiers dead as possible, is less sickening than people who may or may not have tried to engage terror groups to reduce further loss of life on both sides.

And let's ignore that the Tories were also secretly engaging the IRA too eh?

Oh and the Queen met Martin mcguinness

And prince Charles met Gerry Adams

Already addressed above.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

poolie wrote:

I think if you can delete the whole thread and we will all agree to disagree and get back to talking football cos at least when we disagree on football its all good banter and in good spirit.

This is the bunker. Football threads are boring.

Really boring. Especially in June.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Which other usernames does he have?

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

The Colonel wrote:

Which other usernames does he have?

The Colonel.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

You say we are naïve and ignorant, but you are the one creating logins every time there is some sort of election on, so that you can post drivel.

Fuck knows why you waste your time, or what you get out of it.

I think you have me confused with someone else.

I will say that you (and others) are being unnecessarily aggressive. I'm not here to fall out with people nor convince them my opinion is correct.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

The Orienteer wrote:

I'm not 100% sure but I reckon it means the UK will leave the EU including their Single Market and Customs Union therethere

Does it though? Eh? Really?

You dont know do you?

Deliver on Brexit?

It actually means fuck all. Just another stupid tory soundbite, that works for simple folk.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

The Colonel wrote:

The Orienteer wrote:

I'm not 100% sure but I reckon it means the UK will leave the EU including their Single Market and Customs Union therethere

Does it though? Eh? Really?

You dont know do you?

Deliver on Brexit?

It actually means fuck all. Just another stupid tory soundbite, that works for simple folk.

Page 36 of the Tory Manifesto clearly states that we will be leaving the Single Market and Customs Union: https://www.conservatives.com/manifesto

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

In 2010 they were in coalition and in 2015 they didn't complete the full term - both justifiable reasons for not being able to fulfill their manifestos.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Yeh but if they had been allowed to complete this term everything would have been cushy.

It was only them lying labour bast Ards that forced them to call an early election just weeks after promising they wouldn't.

Lefties bastards.

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 6:48 pm

A picture of The Orienteer, or DJ Hoops, or whatever the fuck his name is

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

So 7 years of failure and it sickens you that people wont sign up for another 5 years of it.

Cheers.

In your opinion.

Elsewhere, the Tories have been that much a failure that they're about to be voted back in with an increased democracy.

Just watching Tim Farron being interviewed by Andrew Neil and I reckon Timmeh posts on here :laugh:

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 7:48 pm

The Orienteer wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

So 7 years of failure and it sickens you that people wont sign up for another 5 years of it.

Cheers.

In your opinion.

Elsewhere, the Tories have been that much a failure that they're about to be voted back in with an increased democracy.

Just watching Tim Farron being interviewed by Andrew Neil and I reckon Timmeh posts on here :laugh:

An increased what?

Thick as whale omelette

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

TalbotAvenger wrote:

The Orienteer wrote:

Chip Fireball wrote:

So 7 years of failure and it sickens you that people wont sign up for another 5 years of it.

Cheers.

In your opinion.

Elsewhere, the Tories have been that much a failure that they're about to be voted back in with an increased democracy.

Just watching Tim Farron being interviewed by Andrew Neil and I reckon Timmeh posts on here :laugh:

An increased what?

Thick as whale omelette

Clearly, it was supposed to be 'majority' (no idea wtf happened - probably punched-drunk from watching the Farron interview). Could you not work out that it was supposed to be 'majority'?

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:00 pm

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Clearly, it was supposed to be 'majority' (no idea wtf happened - probably punched-drunk from watching the Farron interview). Could you not work out that it was supposed to be 'majority'?

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I could, you couldn't, not my fault your fingers are fatter than that old hero of yours, Tommy Taylor

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Clearly, it was supposed to be 'majority' (no idea wtf happened - probably punched-drunk from watching the Farron interview). Could you not work out that it was supposed to be 'majority'?

[/quote]

I could, you couldn't, not my fault your fingers are fatter than that old hero of yours, Tommy Taylor[/quote]

Brilliant formatting

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:28 pm

The Orienteer wrote:

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Clearly, it was supposed to be 'majority' (no idea wtf happened - probably punched-drunk from watching the Farron interview). Could you not work out that it was supposed to be 'majority'?

I could, you couldn't, not my fault your fingers are fatter than that old hero of yours, Tommy Taylor[/quote]

Brilliant formatting

[/quote]

Touché, however you certainly pick your heros well, Tommy Taylor and May, about as much use as tits on a fish

horden · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 8:34 pm

poolie wrote:

I don't sing The National Anthem , cos I'm not a monarchist, but I'm proud to be English , imagine JC is the same. WTF national anthem got to do with anything ?

Obviously your @ucking clueless and not worth an argument

Good fookin move on your part then , I'd wipe the floor with you.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

TalbotAvenger wrote:

Touché, however you certainly pick your heros well, Tommy Taylor and May, about as much use as tits on a fish

Heroes

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

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The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

horden wrote:

poolie wrote:

I don't sing The National Anthem , cos I'm not a monarchist, but I'm proud to be English , imagine JC is the same. WTF national anthem got to do with anything ?

Obviously your @ucking clueless and not worth an argument

Good fookin move on your part then , I'd wipe the floor with you.

I never sing our fucking awful anthem either.

Nor am I THAT proud to be british either. In many ways I am quite ashamed to be british.

Brexit being one reason, UKIP another, people supporting them another, bowing down to another person......shameful...................And I could go on. Peter Owens, and those like him. Tories.

I dont believe in God or the royal family, so I would never be that Hypocritical and sing the fucking thing.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

KeithNobbsBigToe wrote:

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Out of order.

That should be in the nudie books section. bbolt

Mumtaz's rucksack · **Joined:** Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:38 pm **Posts:** 1643

The Orienteer wrote:

In 2010 they were in coalition and in 2015 they didn't complete the full term - both justifiable reasons for not being able to fulfill their manifestos.

What an absolute bell end you are

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Mumtaz's rucksack wrote:

The Orienteer wrote:

In 2010 they were in coalition and in 2015 they didn't complete the full term - both justifiable reasons for not being able to fulfill their manifestos.

What an absolute bell end you are

What is it with folk sitting on the fence these days. :laugh:

poolie · **Joined:** Thu Nov 13, 2014 4:31 pm **Posts:** 879

What great outlook you have of your Country if i were you i would up sticks and @uck off to North Korea

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

The Colonel wrote:

I dont believe in God or the royal family, so I would never be that Hypocritical and sing the fucking thing.

The Royal Family definitely exists.

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

poolie wrote:

What great outlook you have of your Country if i were you i would up sticks and @uck off to North Korea

And I'll contribute to his air fare (one-way, of course).

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Chip Fireball wrote:

National Debt in 2010 £979.8 Billion

National Debt in 2016 £1.731.4 TRILLION

National Debt as % of GDP IN 2010 : 65%

National Debt as % of GDP IN 2016 : 89%

That's not an opinion it is a fact.

The debt was meant to be cleared by 2020, another manifesto pledge ditched. Another promise to the electorate broken.

You want me to run you through the manifesto commitments on reducing immigration next ? Or would you prefer me to go through broken promises on the NHS and the Police ? Alternatively we can run through the numerous U-Turns, perhaps starting with the climbdown on National Insurance ?

Another Leftie who doesn't know the difference between 'deficit' and 'debt'.

born toulouse · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:21 pm

Who was it the other day on another thread who mentioned that their old boss was a cross between a twat and something else ending in unt? I think he said he was a twunt.

Works for me as a definition of Orienteer:

Denier of obvious facts and evader of questions.

No friend to the truth and seeks to propogate bollocks on the internet.

Typically found in soiled underwear caused by erotic thoughts of Paul Nuttall.

"He's a complete twunt."

Mumtaz's rucksack · **Joined:** Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:38 pm **Posts:** 1643

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Another Leftie who doesn't know the difference between 'deficit' and 'debt'.[/quote]
Must be a dickhead on a wind up

The Orienteer · **Joined:** Mon Oct 17, 2016 4:50 pm **Posts:** 69

Mumtaz's rucksack wrote:

Another Leftie who doesn't know the difference between 'deficit' and 'debt'.[/quote]
Must be a dickhead on a wind up[/quote]
I'm not on a wind-up (although it's awfully tempting with some of the stuff people are coming out with

)

KeithNobbsBigToe · **Joined:** Wed May 01, 2013 11:32 pm **Posts:** 1057

OK, so the debt and deficit need addressing.

So the Tories have chosen to cut corporation tax, cut taxes for the top 1%, and even introduce loopholes allowing inherited wealth amongst the elite be passed on tax free.

(The case I'm referring to is when some twatty aristocrat died suddenly and his £3 billion estate was passed to his son without the inheritance tax being applied, costing the treasury a cool £1 billion.)

Instead they target schools, hospitals the sick and disabled.

Anyone who agrees with this is a seriously warped and fucked up individual whose probably bitter that they didn't get enough kisses from their mam as a child.

horden · **Posted:** Thu Jun 01, 2017 10:36 pm

You have a job, but you don't always have job security. You have your own home but you worry about paying the mortgage.
"You can just about manage, but you worry about the cost of living and getting your kids into a good school.
"If you are one of those families, if you're just managing, I want to address you directly. I know you are working around the clock, I know you're doing your best and I know that sometimes life can be a struggle.
"The Government I lead will be driven, not by the interests of the privileged few but by yours. We will do everything we can to give you more control over your lives."

A COUNTRY THAT WORKS FOR EVERYONE - MY ARSE !

MORE WARS
NO NHS
MORE AUSTERITY

That's what you will get if you vote Tory on June 8th

Well labour have gone into an early lead

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