The Council are currently planning to stop the public asking questions at Council Meetings, problem is they can't answer them so they now plan too ban them, sign the petition and pass it on, we live in a democracy not North Korea.
https://you.38degrees.org.uk/petitions/ ... o-meetings

If you're not bright enough to answer answer questions from the public, you shouldn't be doing the job.

Does that apply to the Prime minister?

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And the leader of the opposition

The council are there to serve the public, they will do as they are told.

Why the dig at North Korea? probably as democratic as the UK. All people have in the Western world is the illusion that they live in a democracy , that as people they actually get listened to and have a say in what goes on, which is total bo*locks. What semblance of democracy we still have is slowly being eroded, at all levels , the workplace, councils, government and so on.

I agree, my family are starving and fearful that the government could sentence us to lives of hard labour or execute us by anti aircraft missile at any moment.

I dream of one day escaping to live in the democratic utopia of North Korea.

Just joking horden, I agree that our government are simply better at conning us.

North Korea is far from ideal, but there is little evidence of these things happening you joke about, unless of course you include the propaganda that written in our so called free press

They control the press so they control the masses.. that's the only difference

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Democratically elected councillors don't suddenly decide to alienate themselves from their electorate do they? I'd like to know the real reasons " for banning questions etc" . I smell a rat !

Don't know about questions at HBC but where I live questions from the public are a waste of time. Council leaders can totally avoid answering the question if they want to and you have no option to ask further questions. Freedom of information questions are much better at getting at the truth as long as you ask open questions (such as 'please provide a list of dates of meetings and discussions between x and y about z and provide minutes where available') and if they evade answers you can complain to the Information Commissioner.

Because they can't or don't want too answer the questions, they just want too 'steamer roller' all their proposals through.
One of the reasons Parking Charges were introduced at Seaton was there were no Labour Councillors representing the Ward, it wouldn't happen on the Headland.
Over 3000 people signed a petition but one of the people responsible for instigating the charges Marjorie James, nickname Mad Dog refused too meet the Residents, oh she doesn't own a car or have a Drivers Licence.

I saw something on fb last week saying the Akers-Belchers were at the borough hall and they put a complaint in as there was no one there to hold the doors open for them.

Are you serious?
Back in the late 70's I worked with someone who insisted the Berlin Wall was built to keep us out and not their own people in. He was a fuckwit.

And it takes a long time or pink papered. Questions at the meeting requires someone who knows the job and is capable of actually thinking on their feet. Some of them couldn't co-ordinate walking and chewing a sweet at the same time.

Same as a Private Pension you get tax relief on contributions then they take it back when you cash it in years later.

The Pyongyang Bunker.
Topic..... Pyonyang United Relegation.
Poster..... Horden Jung Il.

Our unfortunate demise demise has been revealed by the Dear Leader ......as a result of actions by capitalist running dogs and the Imperislist Media lackeys. Kim Jong Gaz has urged us to back the team, buy five season tickets each and get behind the lads ...... or re-education may prove necessary.
The team has been sent for re-education at the Corned Beef factory of the Rising star and will be appearing tinned on the shelves of supermarkets near you, if we had any. The Dear Leader hopes this will encourage the new team next season to perform that little bit harder.
The dear Leader says our predicament has been 'sorted' by making the National League the Premier League and vice versa.
The Dear Leader sends his thanks for the gold plated jet we bought him, but would have preferred a leather toilet seat onboard.

Now turn off the computer and get back to work you imperialist malingerer and get some work done, you're only 9 hours into a 22 hour shift.

Anyone from Hartlepool voting tory or UKIP is mental.

Are they stopping questions because people were asking what their favorite biscuits were etc?

I heard the public were constantly asking them Verrils opening times! Pesky voters!!!

Well put Chip, couldn't agree more.

Apart from the above , I would say its about whether you are a decent person who wants to live in a decent society or are you a grade A bounder, who wants to live in a cruel society , full of selfishness,hate, jealousy,unfairness, inequality, injustice and poverty. Unfortunately there appear to be many in the UK now, who conform to the latter, some of them quite bizarrely unemployed , or in low paid insecure jobs. Voting Tory, for these people really is like Turkeys voting for Xmas.

What's even more bizarre , is I have met many earning 80k + who are voting Labour and many on less than 20k who say they are voting Tory. In saying that I can understand why people feel betrayed by Labour, I did myself, but Corbyn is taking Labour back to its roots, it was Bliar who deserted its roots.


FFS ! Even after Corbyn has spent all that money , making the UK a better place, the rich will still be rich. it wouldn't change their lifestyle one iota. We are talking about people here , who have millions in the bank, but want even more, and they want you to pay for it, through working for nothing until you are either 85 or too ill to work, in which case they will take your home off you to pay towards your care home costs. You couldn't make it up, but it is happening, and if not you, your children and grandchildren will feel the pain.

This really is last chance saloon, for anyone believes they care about the true core British values. The people won't ever get another chance , if they blow it this time, and for us in the North it will last one out turn the lights off.
We will see on June 9th how thick the people of the UK really are.

The biggest problem for most I'd say, and I don't consider myself thick is that I don't think I have a viable option to vote for that will actually make any difference to my life, and whatever we vote in Hartlepool won't change the outcome of the General Election. With the rise of the SNP and all of the traditional Labour seats that have gone that way up North I'm struggling to see a Labour government again in my lifetime.

I'm actually edging towards voting Labour especially now Wright isn't standing but really at the end of the day what is the point? They will get in, in our Town anyway and it won't make a blind bit of difference. The only real reason I'll vote is the stop the potential embarasssment of us having a UKIP MP. I can sort of see the logic behind people saying they will vote Tory in our Town, I don't think it makes them thick. It makes more sense than the people who decided to vote to Leave the EU in the North East, I can at least see some logic in voting for the party who will get in.

One UKIP and a Labour fella, Doctor got elected a few weeks ago, it was 2 UKIP, the Council website hasn't been updated yet.

Far from it not matter in, it's actually never been more important than this election.

Towns like hartlepool bed to vote and they need to vote labour.

It's staggering if people can't see that.

If his town votes tory then everywhere will and this country needs an oposition.

More than its ever done before.

Labour won't win the election regardless but having a decent opposition will keep the crule right wing in check.

And as for those voting UKIP well those people really do deserve everything that's coming.

Their was a camera crew in a working mens club last week. Quite a few of the members claimed to be life long labour supporters that were going to vote tory this time............because the only thing that mattered to them was Brexit.

You couldn't make fucking shit like that up.

To answer the question above I think the public showed how thick they were last June when they voted against something which, whilst not perfect in many ways, at least provided support and legislations for working and normal people. But at least we got control back to keep immigrants out and let the Tories strip away EU employment legislation, environmental protections, food standards etc etc so their rich mates can cut corners and get richer in the process.

However back to this election and life in general, 80k is being bandied about as some sort of water mark for the wealthy, in comparison to living standards and the North East that's a lot of money. The problem lies in the disparity of wealth, in London and the South East 80k just probably means you can maybe afford a house and live life comfortable. The real problem for me is the real mega wealthy who have continued to exponentially grow their wealth in the last 20-30 years, multimillionaire's avoiding tax and earning enough money for 100's of lifetimes worth of living. Ironically it's these people who wanted Brexit and a variety of things which quite patently won't affect them one bit. These are the people who should be hit to put more into society.

Don't really see a party who are that brave, even labour are going to hit the 80k middle bracket rather than really go for those at the top (who also control the media and the propaganda in this country and the US)

The council intend to stop the public and councillors asking questions at council meetings. What the fuck it has to do with the election is beyond me.
We have coincillors who when unable to answer questions coherently, decide the easiest option is to do away with questions.
Let's hope our teachers don't adopt that mindset.

Snowy..the Primeminister won't answer questions from the General Public ..Maybe they're following her lead?.

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Mr Dalton I think Labour are going after the 80K and above mob ..they are also ot going to make people sell their houses to pay for healthcare. They'll get my vote for plain and simple fact that I care about Society and don't enjoy the race to the bottom being professed as "the way ahead " from the idiots in tory central office and the media.


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My comment was not aimed at people voting labour I just think the big problem is the super rich and that's where the money needs to come from. I fully agree that the Tories will look after their rich mates in the media and the city.

There's a very good summary of the manifesto's of the 3 main parties on the Guardian website today. If you just read it in black and white for me the lib dems manifesto comes across very well and strikes an excellent balance.

However sadly for labour Corbyn as leader has made them weaker because half of the credible people involved in the Labour Party have resigned due to his lack of leadership and providing a credible opposition in parliament so far. You are left with the public seeing shadow ministers like Dianne Abbott who are quite frankly thick as pigshit. Putting aside philosophy politics the public sees these people as the ones who are going to run the country and this is really counting against labour.

Thankfully the tide seems to be turning a bit, for sure any healthy democracy needs strong and credible opposition whoever is in power

Anyway back to the councillors, quite simply they are supposed to be representing as accountable to the people who elected them so it's a disgrace if they won't answer questions

Diane Abbot.. She attended Harrow County Grammar School for Girls, and then Newnham College, Cambridge, where she read history. At Cambridge, she was tutored by historian Simon Schama.She has since said that Cambridge was the making of her... Grammar School Education and a Degree at Cambridge.. and still thick as pigshit ... we are definitely fucked

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My understanding is certain independent councillors thrive on showboating in our council chambers, (their supporters loving it all.) The same supporters remonstrating at every given opportunity, intentionally thwarting the democratic process!

The only way they can 'thwart the democratic process' is by voting which is actually taking part in it.
I have yet to hear one report of smoke and flames coming from the council chamber as hordes of rampaging democracy thwarters run amok with councillors heads on sticks. Even the Mail would have reported that.
Does 'showboating' mean asking awkward questions?

Thwarting = not acting like a credible opposition, objecting to lots of proposals without providing practical working alternative.
Showboating = playing to the gallery, entertaining "supporters" in the council chamber.

Labour are 9/4 to win Hartlepool seat on June 8. Crazy price.

WTF is the relevance of the UKIP in local government matters? What's in their manifesto? Scaffolds on all the beaches?

We could do with that kind of showboating on the pitch.

Ha ha I agree; time and place for it!

They did defend the right for the "horsey set" to have their own free car park at Seaton Carew

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Your post suggests there might be some relevance to them nationally. There isnt.

A rotton party for a rotton borough.