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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2017 3:52 pm 
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Sky News reporting Sheff United have made a £300,000 bid for Thomas.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Leeds want him as well could do with a bidding war!!


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It's hard to even react to this news.

Who has the say on if the bid is accepted?

We can't even answer that with much confidence which going back to Roy Kelly's piece again highlights why it so misguided.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Well it will go to Coxall because he put all of his money in to a sponsorship which obviously fell through at the last minute!! Give the guy a break!!!


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!! Give the guy a break!!!

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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One of my worries about Nathan Thomas is he still looked injured when he came back. A medical team of a Championship club would need to ensure he was right, surely? Another hurdle for the lad.


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Nah he wasn't injured he just wasn't trying, Billy big bollocks, no backbone etc etc

Sorry that was a snipe at all the shit the lad has had thrown at him when probably he wasn't fully fit and probably shouldn't have been playing. His head may have gone in frustration by end of season but I can't stand some of the vitriol that is being aimed at him from some quarters (not really on here to be fair)


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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I'd like to think we can hold out for a bit more especially if Mansfield have a clause in?

Be nice to see Pam publicly reject the bid or set her asking price etc rather than this undisclosed shite.

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
I'd like to think we can hold out for a bit more especially if Mansfield have a clause in?

Be nice to see Pam publicly reject the bid or set her asking price etc rather than this undisclosed shite.


Agreed no way I'd accept 300k for him. They obviously know what he is about and are just taking the piss/testing the water*

*wouldnt surprise me if we accept


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Given Evans went for £500k I think it's a fair price. Evans has been prolific in the past and is far from finished. Thomas hasn't yet proved himself over a full season and would be a gamble for anyone even if has looked a class above in spells.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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The only thing I would say is that Evans fee also has the tainted effect bringing it down slightly (I would guess)


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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He didn't exactly set the World alight in League One last season, scored a few early on but then 3 goals in 28 games and none since December. Given most of his goals before for Sheffield United were in League One I think it's a surprising signing after promotion.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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It's always the same with certain element of our support, if a player has any sort of bad run of form anything they did before is forgotten. They are shite, useless, hopeless and want scattering everything that went before is forgotten. Even with the clear mitigating circumstances Thomas had.

I agree I'd love to see him in a Pools shirt again the likelihood of that I reckon is about 0.000000001%.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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I'd love to see him stay as well, let him have a break, then get an arm around him and get him back to his best. I presume Jones crushed his confidence. Did he say in one of his first interviews that Thomas introduced himself something along the lines of

'I'm Nathan Thomas, your best player'

If what's been said about Jones is true, he probably saw that as a challenge!

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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He is our best player and to be fair I think he was trying to hard to be the hero. He was shooting from impossible positions when he could have passed to a better placed teammate.
Then when things didn't work out the fans made him the scapegoat for our poor performances. If it's true he could have went before he was injured but wanted to stay to help the team, that says a lot in my eyes.
I think he'd have a field day in the national league to be honest .


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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He was rushed back from injury as well surely? He seemed to be back into training for a few days then straight into the squad. Could things have been different in he came back when he was actually ready?


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Rumours were he chose to stay at pools before his cruel injury in Jan. He's still young and 1 season out of the league wouldn't harm him. In fact if he was the stat man it could raise his profile no end. That said, why should he? He's clearly got it in him to play higher up and if teams are bidding for him we've surely got no chance of keeping the one saleable player we have.


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As I said above, some of the things that are being said about him and some of the abuse he took in the ground after coming back from injury why would he want to stay?


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With better players around him in a good team he'd be quality as they couldn't afford to put 2 or 3 on him.

In the non league he'd be kicked off the pitch and be lucky to play half a season.

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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In the echo this morning that Boro want him


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Thomas in the Conference would be like a Ferrari in a ploughing competition, he'll be off.

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Thomas in the Conference would be like a Ferrari in a ploughing competition, he'll be off.


I prefer your nautical metaphors.

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
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Thomas in the Conference would be like a Ferrari in a ploughing competition, he'll be off.


I prefer your nautical metaphors.

You awkward twat....here we go ?..Thomas in the conference would be like putting a dado rail on a dredger. Happy now? :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Snowy wrote:
tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
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Thomas in the Conference would be like a Ferrari in a ploughing competition, he'll be off.


I prefer your nautical metaphors.

You awkward twat....here we go ?..Thomas in the conference would be like putting a dado rail on a dredger. Happy now? :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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I love that one....he's been using it for yonks!!!! :cool:
Years ago he use to say it when seeing a fat lass with a dainty little tattoo above the ankle!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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I would sell him and go back for Luke James we would probably have 150k left over.
He would be prolific in National League.


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I'll agree that he is one of if not THE best player at the club but I was at the Barnet game when he started having a go back at the fans after not turning up for 3/4 games so i'm not that bothered about him leaving. I'll take the £300k for him and watch him be a bit part player at Boro until he eventually just gets farmed out on loan to places like Bradford or Oldham.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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In the Echo now that he's set to sign for Boro for £300,000.

Surely it several Championship clubs want him we can hold out for than £300,000. Boro have just come off the back of a season where they were given over a hundred million pounds and are getting a forty million parachute payment, £300,000 is less than some players weekly wage. Unless we made certain promises in January to accept bids over £300,000 I don't get this figure if more than one club wants him.


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I'd only take 300k for him if that meant Coxall left


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Get in the first suggestion of getting no goals James back. It took a bit longer than I thought. Roll up roll up get your season tickets all the money will be spent on me sorry I meant to say the club. Where to these people come from it's a lot easier than Gary must have thought.


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I would sell him and go back for Luke James we would probably have 150k left over.
He would be prolific in National League.


I don't think would. It's not that far removed from League One and Two and his lack of goals in the last three years is staggering.


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PJPoolie wrote:
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I would sell him and go back for Luke James we would probably have 150k left over.
He would be prolific in National League.


I don't think would. It's not that far removed from League One and Two and his lack of goals in the last three years is staggering.

I'm not arguing either way but playing for a team that is looking to dominate the game compared to playing for someone who is generally the underdog makes all the difference. Think top championship strikers getting promotion and looking worse than average.

It can also be psychological, thinking defenders are crapper can give you a confidence boost to try things you wouldn't normally.

Personally I'd rather do what we can to keep Amond than try to get James back again.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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His lack of goals has been staggering but so has his lack of starts.

I just think like Rafa at Newcastle, buy a certain type of player to do a job in a particular division and if need be rebuild when you hopefully go up.

I still think Luke James is a class player and paired with Amond there is 50 goals next season.


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I'll put a tenner on amond been top scorer next season 50 Goals should do it.


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alibarthez wrote:
His lack of goals has been staggering but so has his lack of starts.

I just think like Rafa at Newcastle, buy a certain type of player to do a job in a particular division and if need be rebuild when you hopefully go up.

I still think Luke James is a class player and paired with Amond there is 50 goals next season.


Don't you think his lack of starts has something to do with his lack of goals?

We've already got a non-scoring striker who runs and runs just like Forrest Gump - Rhys Oates.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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£ 150000 for Luke James a man who has scored 2 or possibly a mammoth 3 goals since he left for Peterborough is more ridiculous than when featherstone was going to sign for Doncaster.

I would not have him for nothing. Why do people have this obsession with wanting to sign old players and old managers. We got lucky getting money for him in the first place. Part of our decline is due to previous managers signing players they used to play with and from teams they used to be at. Who can forget the awesome signing of Stuart Parnaby and the numerous fantastic boro loan signings Atkinson a personal favourite of mine. Yes Burgess and the Jackson were good but others were terrible.

The club needs a complete overhaul from top to bottom. These players did not like Dave Jones allegedly did not like Moore at the end and rumblings about they were sick of Hignetts style of play also. What do we do if they don't like the next one as well. Or even worse get someone they like because the only reason they will like them is so they can toss it off.

Please no more blind optimism in current and previous players and managers.


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James is still young, no one can doubt his career has nose dived since leaving but his talent was there for all to see. Sad to see some think he was talentless even when he was at his best in his first spell here.

Even in his loan spell, he brought the best out in Paynter.

Its all about opinions and even better if he was available for nothing....still think its a no brainer, he is the type of player who will graft us out the National League.


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For anyone who has a half decent memory will remember games Luke James won for us on hes own.. if hes available I don't think we can be too picky at the moment knowing that potential is there.

for Nathan Thomas to leave us for £300,000 is almost criminal :evil:


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I'd take James but only on a free or loan. Not because of sentiment but because he'd be better than most options we'd have at the level we're at.


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He maybe better than certain players what we currently have.

My 7 year old plays the clarinet and is better than me. This does not make her good at it just means she is better than me.


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Nathan Thomas is the best player to play for Pools for a VERY long time and it will be a VERY long time before we see a player of his ilk in a Pools shirt again. Anyone who saw him at the start of the season will know, the lad is unplayable on his day. Good luck to him.... but hopefully not at the Boro!


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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Desperation business. 21 year old isn't he? On his game pre injury was outstanding and one of the most exciting talents we have ever had. 300k in today's market for someone at his age and potential is reflective of the desperation in our club


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£300k is only good business if it goes straight off the loan.

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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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If Sheff Utd have just paid half a million for Ched Evans (the fans I know know can't understand that one esp now they're back in the Championship) then £300k for someone of Thomas potential and age is a bit of an insult in my opinion. We all know it went wrong in the second half of the season but he showed real class before that. It's obvious he's off but it should be for much for than what's on offer. I have no confidence that the current regime won't snatch their hands off though and once again the blame lies at the door of those who got us into this mess in the first place.


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
PostPosted: Fri May 12, 2017 7:56 am 
Perhaps they were going to pay 500k but took off 200k because they saw his last 10 games and thought hmm, gives up, feigns injury and lacks heart.


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It's not an insult more a reflection of our bargaining position.

In chaos off the field, relegated to National League, player wants a move.....Not exactly in a strong position.

Clubs will just take advantage of this, and Thomas won't be the only one to go cheaply. Carson and Amond will court attention and we won't get anywhere near their genuine value.

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It's not an insult more a reflection of our bargaining position.

In chaos off the field, relegated to National League, player wants a move.....Not exactly in a strong position.

Clubs will just take advantage of this, and Thomas won't be the only one to go cheaply. Carson and Amond will court attention and we won't get anywhere near their genuine value.

Yes good point, it was daft of me to call it an insult. It's a reflection on the state of the club's financial position.

He's certainly a player who divides opinion!


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 Post subject: Re: Thomas
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I find it bonkers that he divides opinion. Most people would agree he came back too early and probably wasn't fully fit in the second half of the season. The people saying he lacks heart etc have probably never really played the game, those who have know that when you are not 100% fit it can have an exponentially negative impact on your performance even if you are still trying your best

For example you are thinking about the injury subconsciously it can affect your first touch which when you are fully fit isn't even in your mind and it all comes naturally


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