I bought it in the garage and there's an awful lot of coverage. Yet despite going back into the mists of time and the reasons we failed before, Jones appeared to be the fall guy, I Saw very little reference to our present owners role in this debacle .
Weirdly, they're talking as though it's business as usual come August, but in the National League.

He's been made the fall guy that's for sure. Even by the players.

Yes he was a disaster in terms of results but any manager would have struggled to get results on any sort of regular basis with the squad left behind after January.

Two people are mainly responsible for us losing something after 96 years, messrs Coxall and Goldberg.

I thought Pam brought Jones in!

Jones was still paid to get the best out the playing squad, not the worst.....he is a coach after all.

He is on a par responsible to me with Coxall and Goldberg.

Someone who managed the team for 17 matches is 'on a par' with two blokes who are threatening the existence of our club?

Seriously?

Not the point. He is mentioned, the others are not. Oh, and the foundations were crumbling way before his arrival .

Jones took over when we were about 11 points clear of the drop. Everyone had high hopes but he took the club backover. Players couldn't relate to him, backroom staff found him arrogant.
Even Coxall must have thought we had brought in a good manager!
For me he is responsible for taking us down - aided and abetted by an inept and at times untruthful chairman.

We got 11 points out 17 games under Jones.

Hignett got 12 points from his last 15 games (after the Grimsby win) so we were hardly flying before the emergence of Dave Jones were we? The warning signs were clear.

I think the full club had a fairly complacent attitude about relegation then when we finally ended up in the bottom two where we deserved be we had two games left and it was too late.

You are far too kind.

He is a con-man and a crook. Everything that has happened has been cooked up in Essex and the plan followed meticulously.

1. Register company as a front.
2. Build a back-story that's not too easy to check (female millionaire funding in Dubai)
3. Fake web-site to give veneer of respectable business
4. Acquire a vulnerable club desperate for a clean sweep for a song (or a tweet)
5. Link up with finance company to inject money into the club with promise of investment in real estate.
6. Filter off money via multiple routes
7. Do a bunk.
8. Spend the rest of life laughing at thick northern mugs.

Yes I agree, I was being too kind.

The biggest thing for me was what happened in January when we sold three players for fees and didn't sign anyone. We were already a fairly poor struggling team how did anyone think we were going to get away with that especially when our only real experienced players were long term injured.

All down to the chancer desperately fund raising to pay the tax man and the wages after his parasitic mate did one.

For us he was a rubbish manager too, but you're completely missing the original point! I'll make it dead simple, why aren't our owners mentioned in all of this?

Does anyone else think the players may of been against Jones from the off ?. If that was the case then any manager is going to struggle. Not making excuses for Jones, everything about him was all wrong, but just think because of player power he was destined to fail whatever.

That is why the appointment of the next manager has to be right, or else we could end up in the National League North, and that's aside from the problems we have off the field. The players I reckon wanted Collins as manager, now they want Bates. It looks like they wont work with anyone from outside the club, things have become too cosy over the years. The ringleaders in the dressing room and possibly backroom staff , in my view need to be despatched if a new manager is to have a positive impact. Would also help if said manager got some proper support from the Chairman , whether that's in the way of money for players, a mission statement or just verbal backing.

Right , where's me tin hat ?

If you are going purely on results they can't of liked Hignett much either over his last 15 games!

Yeah, I mentioned that on twitter, replying to the posted story, he said that he was only covering the actions that need to be done quickly.

Unless the owners are quickly removed, there won't be a club left to change, and they could bring in the best manager in the world, but without proper backing, it will fail again. But the Mail seems scared to do anything to upset anyone still connected with the club, even if they are screwing the club over.

At least Loughlin is now laying into the people who deserve it.

Agreed
I wonder if our so called journalists are going to get off their arses at some point and investigate what is going on. We know it, they know it, time to print it?

When I mentioned Jones being on a par with Coxall and Goldberg it was in relation to his part in relegation. His disdain for the club, players, fans, staff and the general area is unforgiveable, and he smashed any feel good factor into smithereens quite deliberately I feel.

Why.....I have no idea.

The uneasy financial mess pre Jones and post Jones(relegation aside) lies purely with Coxall/Goldberg.

Remodelling has suddenly become popular recently, to champion of the fans 'Knight in shining armour' from amiable and everything's great 'Shite with lots of Karma'.
It sometimes appears certain parts of the clubs functions are above comment.

Maybe someone lumped on big in January for us to get relegated. .

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Seriously you can't keep putting shite like that on a public forum no matter how odious the people on the end of it are

If the players didn't like/buy into Jones ideas they still should have been professional for the sake of the club.
It was obvious in some games they didn't want to play for him,it's ok being like that when your comfortable in mid table,not when your place in the league is at stake.
The players should take a lot of responsilibilty for the relegation.

I don't any of the players were unprofessional or not try, confidence and belief was zero though.

I'm not sticking up for Jones (who, lets be honest, stunk the place out), but he did allude, after he left, to some things most fans are well aware of. The teams general fitness has been rubbish for years. There aren't many particularly good teams in this division, but even the garbage ones were fitter, faster and tougher than us. We have too many players that seem almost permanently injured, whether that was their fault/attitude or lack of backroom facilities I have no idea, and our players always appear, physically, lightweight compared to other teams. Had we have brought a couple of decent loans in in January we'd have been okay - we know whose fault that was and they're still in charge.

excellent coverage for once of pools on bbc radio tees tonight
interviews with eddie kyle,brian honour,joe allon, micky barron,chris turner and bates
eddie saying hes heard the club is now 1.2 million in debt since being sold debt free a couple of years ago
also calling the bankrupt ex chairman a "coward"
brian stating players have not been giving 100 per cent in matches
even bates saying hes "not sure it was right for the team to be clapped off at the end of the final game"
micky saying he would clear the decks and get rid of the whole squad and start again
all agreeing supporters deserve to know what is going on, who's in charge, whats the plan and the urgent need for a manger to be appointed quickly to take charge of who stays, who goes, and recruiting "real men" as brian put it so we have a chance of coming back next season
these people should know what they are talking about
and what do we get from the mail ????
the crap daily bland superficial schoolboy commentary...no insight..lacking the balls to criticise..allowing the owners a crediblity they patently do not deserve
for example tonight roy the pools journo suddenly refers for the first time to a paul watson as "head of recruitment" at the club
and who the f..k is he exactly ??? what are his credentials for the job ???
this on top of no questions asked about the bankrupt chairman his past and and his pals
and of course has the mail explained anything, or asked anything, about who exactly pam our new chairperson is,whats her background and why has she any financial interest at all in our club??
err no of course not... it might upset someone to ask pertinent questions..maybe it might involve a bit of work ???
maybe just stick to the usual headlines ...five areas that need me to talk bollocks about nothing..
hopeless journalism absolutely bloody hopeless

Brilliant post Poolie1!!!!

Yes great post Poolie 1 but don't despair about poor journalism because we have able, capable armchair detectives with bottle; long may they continue to operate!

Cracking post mr1.

Eddie Kyle on tees sounded genuinely livid with the club on tees. Very passionate.

Micky Barron was also spot on. Why would he or anyone else be interested in the pools job when you haven't got a scooby do whose running the show n where we are financially.


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Know what? I always wanted to be a Journalist.

Never, ever got there, but I've been lucky to be able to do Pools stuff for Fanzines, Programmes, Websites etc .

I never REALLY thought I could ever have actually done the job though.

I do now...