If available who would you rather we appoint

Surprised you haven't gone for an option of Tommy Miller with his Dad as assistant.

Sam Collins for me.

Talking to him yesterday and he wants it.

none of the above

I think you've missed an obvious candidate from up the road. Neil Aspin has done an outstanding job at Gateshead. If he can get the "heed" to eighth place in the National League, I'm sure he could do a tremendous job for us.

Martin Allen ?!?! Holy Mother of God, I wouldn't let him near my lads Sunday league team. Absolute fruit cake.

Craig Harrison, local lad, ambitious, proven, won everything he can where he is, just needs a break. No brainer to me.

Agree

Concurring

These polls mean nothing. Remember a lot wanted Neale Cooper back and it failed. Then a lot wanted Higgy, and that failed as well.

My only reservation is that he's managing in a League that's about the standard of the Northern League and it's completely uncompetitive, TNS win it every year. It's like the SPL without religious bigotry.

Martin Grey

That feller Bignot isn't on the list either.

I'll pass thanks. Don't know enough about the National League, but I imagine somebody who has got a team out of it would be a huge asset.

Who teh fuck is voting for Martin Allen?

He did fucking shit at Eastleigh didnt he and they will have had money to spend.

True but both had shite owners and next to no investment.

Which is what our next manager will have...

None off that list

Sam Colllins: He's the only that could do the retained list so give him the job.

Advantages: Young, he wants the job, he knows the players.

Disadvantages: Young, he's played a part in the overall failure this season.

Anyone got Sam Collins's stats over his various periods as caretaker manager? I seem to remember they aren't that shabby. Or at least, certainly not as shabby as his contemporaries'.

Sam Collins is a good shout ..Giving Daryl Clarke a chance didn't do any harm to Bristol Rovers

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TNS are the only full-time squad in the league, and have a bigger income due to the Champions League games that they play.

However, over the last 6 seasons he's had a win percentage of 72% over 192 games.

On average over a 46 game season that would give 33 wins, 122 goals, 108 points and a goal difference of +87.

What is our record against supposedly lesser part-time clubs when playing them in the in the fa cup recently?

We're going to be in a league next year where our budget, support and professionalism should much greater than a lot of the other teams, so having someone who knows how to deal with that, and create a team who can carry on winning regardless of other teams coming and parking the bus will be vital.

If were going to have next to no money and its a case of making do with what we have then Collins and Bates have both shown they can get something out of them.

We played some decent football under Collins when he was caretaker, the one that sticks out was the Morecambe game.

I doubt we'd be where we are now if he'd been left to it .. Collins and Bates is not a bad idea .. Wonder how much Coxall had on us getting relegated...

They'll have a bigger budget than you lot next season

You might not be wrong but it's absolutely ridiculous if they do, we averaged crowds of just less than 4,000 in relegation season this year, Gateshead get about 800 most weeks and we'll have the parachute payment. If Sage are prepared to sit tight and have any chance of return on the 'investment' they made the best way of doing that is surely giving us a competitive budget that at least gives us a chance of getting back first time? If not everything will just dwindle unless a saviour in some form comes forward.

Plus the club is effectively for sale, anything could happen this summer this is Pools we're talking about. Anyone watching on Saturday will have seen a proper club with great fans who ran properly could have some potential. For the size of us we are have a fairly high profile you never know.

Sam seems to have done well in his times as caretaker. Couldn't do any worse than some we have had.

Should've given him the job instead of Fat Dave, doubt we'd be in the situation we now find ourselves in, having been relegated out the Football League.

Interesting comment Mr Gums. Where does their money come from? Not gate receipts that's for sure.

Their owners seem to like spending money on them. Theres a few teams like that in the non league scene. Fylde are another lot with a big backer although to be fair they do usually get 1800 upwards most home games.

Please put this desire for Sam Collins to return like some Keegan-esque messiah to bed. I've nothing against Sam but his arrival at Pools coincided with the beginning of our terminal decline. During his time at the club acceptance of mediocrity and defeatism have soaked into the concrete and girders of The Vic (currently on sale on ebay), not his fault I'll admit.
We need a manager who is used to success, even if it's at a level below the Conference or whatever the fuck it's called. Someone who is ambitious, hopefully charismatic and can assemble and mould a team on, basically, bugger all - a team with some togetherness, character and bottle. Someone who knows the lower leagues and has some track record of turd polishing. Whether this Cloughy in-the-making exists is doubtful. We have got to get rid of various shysters first and, in effect, start all over again. Harking back to our, let's face it, pretty pathetic past is no good at all.

I concur.

What we need is a young up and coming manager like Dan Cowley at Lincoln. Dan when at Concord Rangers got them promoted through the Ryman leagues to the Conference South. He was then snapped up by Braintree and got them into the National League play offs. He then went to Lincoln and look where they are now on an average budget. The next up and coming manager has had 3 promotions in 4 years and has had a fairly good season in the National League on one of the smallest budgets and part time. He improved the squad on each promotion and the success continued. From certain relegation in february he turned things around and they won 8 drew 4 and lost 2. In 7 days during that run they covered 1700 miles winning at Gateshead on the saturday losing at Macclesfield on the tuesday and winning at Wrexham on the friday with part time players. Could Jay Saunders at Maidstone be the next Dan Cowley. Don't get carried away we couldn't afford him our managers aren't that greatly paid. There is no way Yogi would come back without there being a really good budget and salary to entice him and that won't happen.

any manager with a brain would not go anywhere near Pools whilst this lot are still in charge.

Agreeing with Bossa Nova and Williewonker. Playing on a Saturday, Tuesday, Saturday on an almost weekly basis , on poorer playing surfaces, ramshackle stadia in front of sparse grounds will require players with a higher degree of mental toughness and desire than the players we have had in the football league over the last 5 or so years.

On the manager issue, I think it is time we gave some serious consideration to giving a young up and coming ex player , or manager , a go. It seems to be where the game is heading. People go on about Darrell Clarke at Bristol Rovers, but probably forget prior to that he cut his teeth, successfully at Salisbury City, so not a total shot in the dark by BRFC.

As for part time players and fitness, I think a lot of the better players in the National League are actually stronger if not always fitter than most of the pros in league 2, probably go down the gym in their own time after work 4 or 5 times a week as well as training , whereas our players just seem to spend a couple of hours running around a few training cones and that's it.

In my opinion, if ever we needed a manager with a bit of experience (of non league) it's got to be now. Much as I appreciate what the likes of big Sam, Ritchie Humphreys or whoever have put into to club, we're headed into the great unknown of non league - someone who knows the Conference or lower leagues is a must for me.


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Remember our last cast-iron, couldn't-have-hoped-for-better managerial appointment? All managers come with a 0% guarantee even if they've done it all before.

It's not in-depth knowledge of the Conference we need. It's somebody with footballing acumen to spare, someone who can suss out this league in five minutes flat then crack on to the next level.

Somebody I know who follows non-league very closely calls it financial doping. Put a fair bit of cash into the playing budget at a club like Forest Green Rovers and the impact is massive. it effectively ends fair competition until they're at the top end of the conference where clubs with bigger crowds and/or parachute payments have similar full time squads. No wonder the conference is hard to win.

Yes I take your point although Jones didn't have any recent experience of league 2. I just don't think, especially with everything else going on, that now is the time to take a punt on someone without some experience. And if it includes some experience at non league level, that would be a bonus. But it's all about opinions and unfortunately we won't get a say in it either way....!


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Hope the next manager doesnt eat a sausage sandwich or the local rag will be all over it. (Once he is sacked)

Managed to get £12 on (all Betvictor would let me) and market now shut

Who's got the job?

All this talk of fitness is it just me.....2 games a week is 3 hours.

An average player runs 5 miles per game....that's a mile every 18minutes...hardly legging it.

Always assuming he lasts the 90 minutes....whats wrong with them, its hardly graft.

Never heard my boss ring me up and say you're looking jaded take the day off you're rested.

I've seen tennis players in temperatures up to 120 degrees playing up to 5 hours, then back out the next day.
Sometimes not knowing the start time, when to eat, never knowing the finish time, sometimes 2am finish if last on.

Seriously don't know they're born modern day footballers.

Collins still 1/2 on Bet Victor mobile app...

If you get Allen I would feel sorry for you
For Barnet in the Summer he signed all these skilful players such as Jamal Campbell Ryce but then barely ever played them and just played long ball

Looks like we're getting Sam Collins.

Gutted.

Il be very disappointed if my bet wins.

I like Sam he seems a likeable bloke but I definitely don't think it would be a good move appointing him. What is it with some pools fans always wanting people from the past even when they've failed. Read people wanting Collins, moore, James,Nelson, Fenwick and even spoke to a bloke wanting flinders back if Carson goes, think we need to look forward not back.

Doesn't matter anyway, with our track record he'll be lucky to last six months.

I wonder if it'll be announced today. Sam wouldn't be my choice but it wouldn't be a great surprise.


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