http://www.york.vitalfootball.co.uk/art ... p?a=483165

0-1 Jack Orrell so far

two trials, goalkeeper and striker, the latter subbed for Devante Rodney.

Scott Fenwick playing for York.

1-1 now, York sub equalised

Not being funny but if the striker can't prove himself at numerous teams lower down the leagues than us by the age of 22, why are we looking at him? I know there's no harm in a trial but surely in this case there's no need for it either?

The keeper was released by Brentford last summer and is from New Zealand.

According to link Simpson just scored for us despite us not having a Simpson in starting line up or on the bench.

As I say according to the link he want on bench or starting line up...

"Hartlepool United Reserves: Tzanev, Nearney, Martin, Green (L. Orrell 68), Pollock, Fielding, Smith (Smith 74), Elliott, J. Orrell (Blackford 55), Hawkes, Lavelle-Moore (Rodney 46)

subs: Catterick"

Aint one of our assistants from the New Zealand International squad?

tbh id seen they had a Simpson playing for them and presumed they had just got the wrong team.

Winner winner chicken dinner

York 1 Pools 2

Yes. Could be an interesting connection. If there's a Kiwi version of Joel Porter, he'd do nicely.

Blimey, this York City player must have been bad against us !

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39198728

Tut tut, what a joke York City have become, signing players they know virtually nothing about.

Speaking of which, I just had a look at Devante Rodney's Twitter account. Who's the youngish bloke with no hair and a dark jacket with his arm round Devante's shoulder as he's signing for Pools? I'm losing track.

His name is Ant Ryan and his twitter profile says he is a Registered FA Intermediary at FullNinety Sports Management

You mean we might have paid an agent a fee for a lad who can't get a start for the Reserves?

I can hear Uncle Ken's hollow laughter from here.

It reminds me of that Ali Dia (?) years ago who told Southampton he was Gearge Weahs cousin and actually managed to make a substitute appearance in the Premier League.

Fullninety...interesting....

See Scott Fenwick played the full 90 minutes for York Reserves. Has one goal in 11 appearances for their National League side.

Heading back to the Northern League.

That stinks, almost on the same level as that whole Tevez saga. How can Dave Jones sign one of his son's clients and claim to be impartial?
Add this to the list of things to dislike Coxall for. Club is rotten.

Hignett was manager when Rodney signed, plenty rumours were going round at the time that he was not happy about the signing and he wouldn't be anywhere near the team while he was manager. It was about 3 weeks later Jones was appointed though but we're seeing where the link was first established and maybe the initial contact was made with Dave Jones and how he ended up our manager.

Nothing can be proved but maybe Jones coming in was reliant on Rodney being signed. No doubt it would of helped Dave Jones make his mind up at the very least.

....upon checking, it's a Gareth Jones, from Liverpool, but I cannot establish that he is in fact related to Dave. My error, I should have checked source first.

Too late it's been decided the club is rotten to the core, the mob has spoken

Elvis C you have a PM, right track

It's an understandable mistake. Jones is a very rare surname. Both Scousers too! Easy to assume that they must be related.

But they are....

I've never been called a mob before. Always thought a mob was more than one person.

I've done a quick check and Google claims Dave Jones has no sons. That's not to say they're not related but there is definitely a connection as on Gareth's linkedin picture he's wearing the same black jumper. I'm starting to think there may be a Black Jumper Freemason type conspiracy afoot.

They are related.

I presume Yubep was thinking along the same lines....

Funny as fook.

I can't believe anyone would doubt the integrity of a former Premier League manager on a matter like this.

Anybody trying to make an issue of this should look at the facts:

Just before a recruiting a new manager who has carried out a ruthless squad cull/cost cutting exercise the club expanded the squad by signing an unproven youngster who appears to be shite.

His agent, who probably got a fee, is related to the new manager.

The old manager distanced himself from the decision to sign the player.

Pamela Duxbury seems to know everybody.

The new manager can't possibly have been involved because he wasn't the manager when the deal happened.

If it wasn't for that last point you'd be really suspicious that, at best, favours were being done for relatives and business associates and, at worst, that kickbacks were being sorted out via the wage budget and players' contracts. Still, nothing to be concerned about because we can trust the people running the club 100% and there is no way the new manager or Pamela Duxbury could have been influencing anything weeks before Hignett was sacked.

The next game the Reserves play could decide who wins the league, at home to Grimsby on Weds 22nd March (1pm), both teams currently level on 18 pts, Grimsby have played one game less.

I'm really beginning to wish I hadn't asked this.

Great detective work as usual unearthing the Devante Rodney - FullNinety Sports Management-Gareth Jones-Pamela Duxbury- Dave Jones links but just now I'd really like to just focus on what's happening on the field and whether Pools can avoid the drop into the National League.

For all I know the club might to go into administration tomorrow or in the close season but, guys, we're at the sharp end of the season and i'd really rather be thinking about the side Dave Jones puts out on Saturday than ponder his family relationship with another Jones whose company made a bit of commission on a young footballer who is nowhere near ready for the first team and quite possibly never will be.

Not saying it's not at all important but -

It would be easy to dismiss it but how many of the other young players we signed who've got nowhere near the first team have similar links?
Yes we need to focus on supporting the team but that doesn't mean we shouldn't question anything that doesn't sit right at the club.

How much commission do you think the agent would have got for Rodney signing on?

£500? £5,000? £50,000?

If it's much more than £500 you can send for the fraud squad. A bit of a sense of perspective wouldn't go amiss.

Bossy person.
Any road, tell us how we can focus on whether Pools can avoid the drop into the National League, then we can all join in........

Well, speaking personally - which is all I was doing - I find going to matches and shouting encouragement at the team is a big help (for me, if not for them). Then there's staring at the league table, studying other team's run ins and wondering whether Orient will go out of business before May... you should try it, it's loads of fun.

Why does discussing the clubs owners/partners etc stop you doing that?

Very good point well made about perspective, suggestions that a manager joined the club or was finally swayed to become the manager on the condition that we signed an 18 year old kid are with all due respect a bit absurd. Especially when we consider he's not even been a regular starter for the reserves since Jones arrived or made the bench when we only had 6 on it.

I just hope he's the last of these pointless child signings if we are going to continue with this policy we might as well scrap our own youth team.

Oh, it doesn't.

Then again, I think I've seen Chip lay out the Pamela Duxbury connection in very similar terms four or five times now. I don't think I've learned a whole lot more from each repetition.

We're all free to draw our own conclusions about what's been going on behind the scenes at the club. For me, 'manager is related to football agent' is not the biggest thing to worry about the minute.

What about our cowboy chairman of what all of this go's through

Monorail monorail!


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Has Jones signed his contract yet? Coxall was saying it was only a matter of time last week wasnt he?

It probably is a matter of time. Most things are. Trouble is, where Mr Coxall is concerned, that doesn't narrow things down very much.

If Coxall said time exists I'd want proof.

Fair enough Chip, look forward to reading the next installment of the Pamela Duxbury saga - as long as it's not exactly the same as all previous installments.

The Bunker's turning into a battlefield lately. Without WUPs to discuss people are turning on each other.

WUPs, WUMs, same battle.

Is Coxall a WUM?

More a WMD.

And to think they found none in Iraq.