We were told by one pools fans, who had inside info, that we were getting a Jnauary announcement that would have our minds blown.

I have been waiting to be mind blown now for about 6 weeks.

Maybe that Pools fan could give us an update?

Maybe you should let it go. As a supposed pools fan and Trust promoter, shouldn't you/we be attempting to unite the fan base, not continue the shite?

Every member of the Trust has the moral obligation to try and unite the fans for what's looking like one of our biggest tests yet.

Kind of contradicting yourself there Mr I. While they may not be cut from the same cloth, the end result could mean the same for Pools.
As you say Coxall brought in Sage, what reason do they have for wanting the club to stay alive? They have money invested but is that purely a loan against the clubs assets at no risk to themselves? Like I've mentioned previously, if the club goes bust what option do the council have but to sell the ground? While I support the Trust, getting together the funds to make a rival bid for the stadium is a huge ask.

Needless to say I've as much trust for Coxall as I do Goldberg. Not sure why recent events has changed anyone's opinions.

Oh please behave. Its not my job to unite any fooker. Neither am I in the trust. Yet.

But lets give you the benefit of the doubt here, how do you propose "WE" unite the fans? And what fans need uniting?

Easiest way is to stop being a bell end constantly trying to wind people up. Almost impossible for you I would imagine like.

Oh and whilst I am on, Pools fans should be applauding the Detectives, and be forever in their debt. Chipfireball, MrI. ECG, and the others will be regarded as the ones that saved Pools in years to come.

Unlike those others that are still treating them like they are the anti-christ.

Thoughts on that Mr B?

Finding this stuff out is good, we need to know the truth. We also need to not scoff at those who choose not to believe. Your problem is you feel the need to be part of a group and then hammer anyone who doesn't have the same opinion.

The trust needs all the members it can, those who want the best for it should ensure that it gets as many signed up as humanly possible.

If you truly wanted the best for it then why would you constantly stir up animosity?

The ones that will 'save Pools' are those that will do their utmost best to increase numbers of the Trust membership, even if that means holding their tongue on occasion.

Mr Monkeybutt, for example, at the very least has put himself forward to try and help the cause, even though I do believe he does as much harm as good on occasion.

I've done fuck all apart from joining the Trust (only last week) and try to get people to stop with the pathetic rivalry. It hasn't worked, but at least I've tried.

What have you done?

If you truly wanted the best for it then why would you constantly stir up animosity?

What have you done?

He along with many others, have seen through the bull guano.

At least it looks like you're taking you're rose tinted specs off

Yes I did Mr Butt. Keep up the good work

I was one of a few that did the work in getting the thing started and I believe that it will end up as one of the few achievements of my otherwise pointless existance.

The problem with Coxhalls plan, is that the land in question would be of a lot more value if the football ground was wiped off the face of the earth, along with the bowls club, skate park, and Millhouse leisure centre. Flatten that lot and you have a fair amount of land slap bang in the middle of town.

Not many folk want to buy luxury apartments with a big dilapidated football ground next to it, but they might if it was not there.

Don't know how fans stand on this, personally I like the football ground exactly where it is, and I'm not sure I would want a new Chester City style 5000 capacity breeze block replacement up Queens Meadow or on the Wynyard Estate. Perhaps I'm just being sentimental, but I don't think it would be the same. That's assuming we even got that much, they might just give us a patch of land and say to the Trust build your own football ground.

The bottom line is that we have owners who put zero into the club, take a lot out of it, and who seem interested only in borrowing against the club to try and make money in the property market. Anyone who questions their motives is an enemy of the club, or a detective, or an armchair expert.

An armchair expert I may be, but I've forgotten more about Hartlepool United then these people will ever know. I also think I am a pretty good judge of popular opinion.

If GC and Akers Belcher think regenerating the town centre means moving the football club and dumping it somewhere the tourists and street café patrons cant see it, they may be under estimating the strength of feeling towards HUFC.

There is one thing I really don't get about this regeneration of the town for tourism thing. Who the hell goes to Hartlepool?! Imagine coming here for a holiday, the ugly football stadium must be the least of these people's problems. Either that, or the only legitimate reason anyone visits the town, other than drug trafficking.

I find it strange how people will believe Coxall without a single shred of evidence to support what he says, yet when faced with evidence to cast his claims into doubt its not to be believed.

One man has the power to put everyone's mind a rest, he's appeased some with vague promises of a sustainable future from this housing development. He may genuinely intend to do this, but things just don't add up. I don't understand why people think everyone should blindly support him and the club despite the obvious evidence that things are not going well behind the scenes. It just makes no sense to me at all, of course we all want pools to do well, and we all want the team to win but being concerned about the future of the club at the same time doesn't make people any less of a fan, quite the opposite I think.


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they may be under estimating the strength of feeling towards HUFC.

Apart from the odd special event like the tall ships race that did attract visitors (at what cost?), the town center/marina is really just for locals. No-one passes through Hartlepool on their way somewhere else. It's never going to be a destination of choice. Therefore the the football club probably attracts more long distance visitors than anything else.

There are still a few positive things about the current situation along with a shedload of negatives

1. the club don't own the ground
2. historic debts were cleared a year ago
3. they didn't sell Carson and Thomas in the transfer window

All we can do now is to continue to be vigilant. Coxall and his mates own the club. When the annual accounts are submitted shortly we may get a better view of the finances and all shareholders should demand an AGM. Perhaps the trust could try and establish how many shareholders it has and ensure that there is a sufficient call for answers at the AGM.

This has been a fundamental flaw of successive Town Councils - this mania for attracting "tourists". Any "tourist" arriving in Hartlepool must either have the worlds most defective sat-nav or be a fan of post-industrial nightmare desperation. On a recent "Simpsons" episode the approach to Springfield had a sign saying "Springfield 1 mile - lower your expectations", a modified version of this would be very apt on the A689.
The Local Authority never seem to have a plan to make Hartlepool better for the people who live there, just tidying up Seaton or The Headland or the increasing shabby Marina, for instance. The future is always some grandiose, sun-kissed, cafe society bullshit that ends up knee-deep in litter, blood, vomit and broken glass.
The hopelessness of the Football team just mirrors the hopelessness of the town and the last few pounds and pence are in the process of being chewed off that particular carcass.
The future is fan-owned, and the sooner it arrives the better, regardless at what level we'll be playing.

Lot of words written about the divide between two see of fans but it basically boils down to one of two things ....

Anyone who doesn't believe this bloke is a conman and a shyster simply doesn't WANT to believe that this man is a conman and a shyster.

or

Those that support him have passed the point of no return when it comes to admitting they have changed their ideation.