Whats wrong with misplaced apostrophe's?

I'm not meticulous. I just have an irrational hatred of the half colon bastads.

From the interview on Poolsworld, I think full disclosure has occurred with Mr Jones. Towards the end he said

"It doesn't matter what level you are at, whether you've got money or you haven't got money, you can still have a good house, a clean house, and that's what I'm trying to instill here."

The interview impressed me greatly, he also said all the clubs he's gone into have been struggling, so he has his eyes wide open.

I presume we have the rest of the season to get the fans on board, get the crowds up a little, and see if we can get some momentum. Exciting times.

Very good post and I am sure all pools fans will agree. And its all pools fans want.

Care to elaborate? Have I missed something?

I think the 'Pam' he refers to has been involved with Sage Investments, who the second loan was taken out with. Not sure in what capacity, though.

She also a Director of Rodney Devantes Agency company.

I'm very impressed with the Jones interview on Poolsworld. I like his attitude and am sure he is relishing the challenge.
He is not frightened to take on a team at the bottom of the football league, which tells me he isn't going to stand for anything less than total commitment from everyone employed by the club.
When I see these billionaires and wealthy consortiums entering football club ownership I often wonder why they don't go for a club like Pools. If they are successful with Pools I think the achievement would be that much better and recognisable. Wouldn't it be just fantastic if such an owner could be found.
Welcome to the Club, Davy Jones. I wish you well. Your first challenge is to get us as far from your infamous locker as you can.

I think you'll find you've already had one of those for most of this century and most of you couldnt wait to get rid, I would call anyone willing to lose £15m on you as being a generous benefactor.

I don't agree.
However I am prepared to scrutinize the full accounts for the period you are referring to should you be able to produce them.

What utter bobbins loan start talk about telling not even half a story.

IOR were never a wealthy consortiums or billionaire owners. They were maybe prepared to run at a bit of loss in the early days but their are obvious reasons for a company doing that. We never overspent or offered exorbitant wages the club were doing well, and getting decent crowds at the time probably generating a lot more money than we are now. I don't even think we broke our record transfer fee until the promotion season under Danny Wilson (when we were getting 5,500- 6,000 most weeks during that run) that had been set in about 1992. I remember in that season Julian Joachim getting offered more money by Darlo who were a completely unsustainable club at the time.

IOR didn't really own Pools after about 2009 when the investment from Norway (Berge Larsen) stopped. At that point I doubt anyone wanted to get rid, what people became sick of was Ken Hodcroft and his total lack of communication , constant negativity and total lack of ambition. We have been running at the same level 'investment' as we are now (just about nothing) for a number of years including 'IORs' last five years or so.

I expect nothing less than a win every game from now on and automatic promotion otherwise I'm not going again.

Seriously, however, I'm very, very impressed with the appointment. The guy's record is there to see, he hasn't put a foot wrong and successfully managed to polish Stockport into a decent top half championship side. I'm excited again to be a Pools fan, just wish as a lot of others have said that the club would be a bit more transparent on the finances.

So you reckon they lost the majority of that £15m they wrote off in the first few seasons?



Obviously IOR thought Pools were unsustainable at higher levels too, otherwise you wouldn't have spent the last few years bobbing around the drop zone.

They never lost £15m or anywhere near it.

Darlo fans coming in to give us a lecture on how debt works

You clearly aren't reading what I am saying or choosing not to regarding IOR. IOR didn't really exist in the last few years it was just Ken Hodcroft he was taking his wage for being Chairman out of the club.

Darlo were unsustainable as soon as that stadium got built. I have hardly anything to back this up apart from the administrations then you eventually being liquidated.

Clubs at Football League level get enough outside help now for them to be ok financially if ran properly. When was the last time a club went into administration? We have a big enough fan base and infastructure to be perfectly sustainable at the level we've always been at and a bit higher as much as it irks you.

I was informed in the early days of IOR by a shareholder that they were subsidising Pools up to £500k per season. Anything over that and Uncle Ken would come down on them.
Let's be honest the players we had coming in at that time were paid top wages for our league. I remember reading Dave Penny after the famous Darlo game saying that Pools had one of the biggest budgets in our league.

I'm sure we might have that season, we had come off a season just one before were we'd been 8 minutes away from being promoted to the Championship so I'd imagine some decent contracts were getting dished out plus we'd sold Boydy for half a million to get in players like Barker and Monkhouse. We were getting good crowds, the boxes were always full ad I'd imagine it was easier to attract sponsors.

Yes because we have had plenty experience of debt and dodgy chairmen or hadn't you noticed? However 3 winding up orders in the last few months seem to have been forgotten now that Coxall has committed your club to more spending when it seems to have been struggling to pay its debts already.
Its like the Life of Brian, one minute he's not the messiah and the next he is.

You were on about IOR not Coxall. A subject which you have no fucking clue on and never will.

I am reading what you are saying. The point is when IOR stopped ploughing money in you found yourselves back around the bottom of the league showing that what went before was unsustainable without a nice benefactor making it possible.
If getting 3 winding up orders within a year of taking over a debt free club is running it well then I'd hate to see what sort of a job Coxall would make of it if he was running it badly!

Fair enough, I bow to your superior knowledge

I can assure you that I haven't forgotten the 3 WUOs. (Which now must have been paid as the Football League has come out today and stated that none of their 68 members owe the taxman a penny)

Well I'm pleased somebody hasn't forgotten it already! Just hope the high interest loan get paid off as quickly!

Nobody was even menioned the current owners you were blathering on bitterly about IOR like you did for about ten years.

Fucking hell this forum can hardly be accused of burying its head in the sand about the concerns and questioned raised about the financial state of the club. 'We're so rich it's unbelievable' we have never sang.

Whatever PJ, you think what you want. Impossible to have any sort of reasonable debate with you. Fortunately not everyone on here is as arsey as you.

You seem to bury your head, Loughlin style with your tongue up Coxalls arse now he's brought in a new messiah, no doubt on a canny wedge more than Hignett.

I'm not arsey are being arsey it's nothing personal I can just see through your posts.

How much have you had to drink tonight you don't normally conduct yourself like this. My tonge up Coxhalls arse!? I have said from day one that I have a bad feeling about this and don't think it will end well. Nothing that has happened in the last 24 hours has changed that. From a football sense I'm delighted with the new manager though.

Not drank anything! Theres no hidden agenda from me despite what you might think, cant be arsed with arguing the toss like some choose to, just because you were our big rivals a few years ago.
At the end of the day the reason I mentioned IOR was because Derwent thought it would be nice to have a benefactor, despite the fact IOR were exactly that. Nothing to do with me being bitter about it. Don't deny it would have been nice to have a backer like that over a number of years rather than the fuckwits we always ended up with.
As I've said before we have had enough experience with chairmen trying to pretend theres nothing wrong, spending more money when debts were mounting up elsewhere and for the most part we fell for it too. No doubt its interesting from a football point of view but you still need to be asking questions about the finances. From what I have read on here it seems to have slipped the mind of quite a few already.

I disagree about them running the club like a benefactor, they never made outlandish claims or spent exorbitant amounts of cash they ran the club pretty well and very securely. The pitch was always in good nick and manager got decent backing within reason. We were fortunate to have them certainly but they weren't George Reynolds or the bloke at Fleetwood. I doubt they lost £15 million either.

Well we will just have to disagree on that then. For me, anyone who subsidises the club (even if its just for a tax break) so that the club can punch above its usual level, is in my mind a benefactor. Maybe not a a big league type of benefactor, but a benefactor all the same.

A lot of factors contribute to a football team/club having success, we punched above our weight for a couple of years because we got a group of players together who forged a good team spirit and enjoyed each other's success. Players like Micky Barron and Chris Westwood were brought in on free transfers when we nearly going out of the League the likes of Boydy and Sweeney cane through the youth team. Nobody wanted Dimi and Joel Porter they spent weeks on trial before they signed, you talk like we bought success which is rubbish. I reckon in the team that started the play off final we had payed a fee for one player (Nelson) hardly Arab sheikh stuff was it!?

The difference between our benefactor and our former rivals was ours kept his feet firmly on the ground whereas our rivals flew his jet down the runway with the throttle fully open on his epic journey to glory....it flew off the end of the runway and ended up in a field because it had no wings. Bad news all round, especially for the gullible fans clinging onto the wreckage.
Some crash that.

if david jones can,t at least stabalize the club on the pitch i doubt anyone else could. be thankful there,s others in a bigger mess. try notts county and leyton orient for size plus accrington on the pitch.

I never mentioned the word 'benefactor'. I was more specific than that. I said a wealthy consortium or a billionaire owner. You changed that to benefactor in order to bring IOR into the frame.Just to make it more obvious to you......IOR never have been, aren't, or ever will be, anywhere remotely near to the category I was referring to. Myself and many other Poolies chucked money into your collecting buckets, an act that could describe us as benefactors. However we are no where near to being a wealthy consortium or billionaires. The description benefactor is too vague, which is why I went further descriptively. A point that obviously was lost on you.
I don't blame you for being a bitter and twisted loid but don't try and kid us that you come on here to debate anything, because you don't.

You also spent money on Jones and Freestone which all set the ball rolling for the good years. Fair enough they may have gone by the play off final but it was still big money spent which prior to IOR would have been a very rare occurrence.

A billionaire or wealthy consortium still act as benefactors, just on a bigger scale to IOR.
The only bitter and twisted people round here are those that think any Darlo fan mentioning IOR are just looking for an argument.

One bitter Loid neatly dispatched to the boundary for 4!

Jones and Freestone!? Howay Loan Star. I'd imagine Darlo bought as many players as Pools in the same period. I don't think anyone is denying we were fortunate that they chose to buy the club but you appear to trying to cheapen the few years we had when we had decent side. We didn't ever try to 'buy' the League (like Darlo) our teams were generally put together with free transfers. We built gradually improving the team each season. Plenty of clubs around us had as much to offer in wages then when we were League One most the teams had the same and more.

Every club at Football league level would have gone pop years ago without 'benefactors' Darlo more than most it's the way the game was at least now a bit more money is filtering down.

Must just be me but LoanStar seems like a decent bloke to me like!!!!

He is. Known him years.

I'm sure he is I've never suggested otherwise we're only talking about the trivial matter of football at the end of the day I don't agree with him in this instance, that's all.

I don't think anybody from Hartlepool agrees with anyone from Darlington on much, really!

Darlington still has a Binn's and Hartlepool hasn't. And a big M&S. Retail wise they're streets ahead. I like Darlington. I have nowt against the Footie team and wish them all the best. Loan Star is anything but a "bitter loid" (even though I disagree with his points on this post). I'm just sooooo fucking civilised!

Peter bloody lee is streets ahead of hartlepool retail wise.

Hartlepool is the land that time forgot.

If only there was a masterplan.

Oh and I too think loan star is fine.

Thanks for the compliments. I'm not a bad lad really

Unfortunately that was the National League that made that statement yesterday regarding none of its members owing HMRC. Football Legue is 72 members and probably one or two still owe them money. I'd be fairly certain we still do.

I think loan star is a good lad as well but from time to time loids need slapping down !!!!!!

Loan star seems like a decent lad.
Weve probably battered each other in the market Square many years ago.