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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:13 pm 
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... getting plenty of publicity in his criticism of Stagecoach over the ending of the subsidised service to james Cook Hospital. Would this service be the same sort he proposes for those who shall have to travel to North Tees in future..... But it isn't them who are causing the problem in the first place is it?, if the the government weren't improving things by shutting them down, we wouldn't need such 'services' would we?

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god what a plonker, he is really showing us up on about buses,the causeway
is this bloke real,or is he just a cardboard cutout, coming out with drivell just to justify his expenses, i got an invite to a coffee morning he is holding to get
to meet with him and give him my views about local and national issues, but unfortunatly i shall be otherwise engaged and so will the misses


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Does he still go to Pools ? I've seen him a couple of times in the millhouse side at half time but that was a few seasons ago. I actually felt a bit sorry for the bloke because he is tiny and whenever I saw him he was on his bill....


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do you want to mother him or suffocate him and put him out of our misery


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do you want to mother him or suffocate him and put him out of our misery


rolfl i would certainly not like to mother him - he is small though isn't he....?


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Its like Albert Pierrepoint complaining about the rope being a bit rough.


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The little shithouse was in The Causeway on Friday!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


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The little shithouse was in The Causeway on Friday!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


take it you didnt get him a pint then mutters


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The little shithouse was in The Causeway on Friday!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


take it you didnt get him a pint then mutters
They don't do draught bleach. :evil:

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The little shithouse was in The Causeway on Friday!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


take it you didnt get him a pint then mutters
They don't do draught bleach. :evil:



are you saying his clothes needed dying rolfl


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townendtimmy wrote:
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The little shithouse was in The Causeway on Friday!!!! :evil: :evil: :evil:


take it you didnt get him a pint then mutters
They don't do draught bleach. :evil:



are you saying his clothes needed dying rolfl
His constitiuents might if they can't get to hospital.

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all this spin you know they are lying cause their lips are moving banghead


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... getting plenty of publicity in his criticism of Stagecoach over the ending of the subsidised service to james Cook Hospital. Would this service be the same sort he proposes for those who shall have to travel to North Tees in future..... But it isn't them who are causing the problem in the first place is it?, if the the government weren't improving things by shutting them down, we wouldn't need such 'services' would we?


shouldnt the little shit be criticising the people who stopped the subsidy.
i know it is very rare we take anybody to the hospital as we just seem to be running pensioners to borer and back as they can have a ride out for free

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chip fireball wrote:
i could walk to boro quicker than the number 36, and the number one stops running to boro about 6 o clock.

theres always the one train an hour. if it turns up, and even that takes over half an hour. last train back from the boro is about half 8.

this labour governments promise to invest in public transport hasnt materialised in hartlepool thats for sure.

then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


last one during the week chip is 8.30pm from the town and 9.28 from james cook 9.45 from boro on a sunday the last one is 6.30 from the town and 7.45 from boro which is before visiting time is over???????????

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this labour governments promise to invest in public transport hasnt materialised in hartlepool thats for sure.



or Saltburn :shock: :uhoh:

"you've just got leccy in the generalfamilyincestareas tho aint yer?!" :roll:

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cross country train prices are very steep, if you don't get a ticket early enough you will miss out on the limited number of cheap ones. After that the prices soon start to get disgustingly high, hundreds and hundreds of pounds- this is absolutely scandalous considering the cost of transport on the continent is far far cheaper. taz

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chip fireball wrote:
as a non driver who spent 16 years living in london i was amazed at just how bad public transport was up here.



newcastle and sunderland have a metro link, and have just introduced a night bus, so at least they are making some effort, but if you dont have a car in hartlepool you are pretty much stuffed.


i disagree chip
obviously i have a vested interest in public transport in the town and i think the public of the town get a good service the headland/central has a bus to town every 10 minutes during the day. clavering/west view every 7/8 minutes and seaton to the town every 15 minutes.fens and the manor are served equally as well.
the problem with buses in the town is more down to the lack of enforcement action taken against cars parking in bus stops.
if buses were able to stop in the laybys and actually pull away from them then buses would move quicker and people would get where they were going with less hassle.
the only thing i would change would be the fare structure and adopt the continental method.
one fare wether you go one stop or the other end of the town it works in places like majorca.

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it is a local service chip and a good one. for out of town trips i agree but this is not a new issue in the seventies you could not go to a gig in newcastle and get a bus/train home at the end you had to leave early to get back home.
the problem is since the goverment done away with local goverment transport and opened it up to private ownership profit comes first.
if a regional goverment was able to provide a local area service with direct buses/trains that ran till 1am then i am all for it.
it would also mean more jobs locally as well

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The local bus service runs at the most profitable times for Stagecoach who are in the business of running buses for a profit. Bus fares are outrageously expensive and it's reached a silly state of affairs when it's cheaper for a family to use a taxi than a bus

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chip fireball wrote:
the main city in the region is newcastle. we have no direct bus link with it and one train an hour.

the nearest mainline rail staion is darlington.again we have no direct bus service with it and something daft like 2 direct trains per day.

regional airports are teeside and newcastle. again no bus or train links with either of them. it would take me longer to get to teeside airport by public transport than it would take to get to hamburg from teeside airport once i got there.

you still cant even get a bus to our sister hospital at north tees from the town can you?

they have also just axed the number 30 bus providing a half hourly service to sunderland.

its not like we are a rural village, this is an expanding town of over 90,000 people and if you aint got a car and cant afford taxis you is virtually stuck.

i seen a sign near where the old bus staion used to be proudly announcing that thet are finally building the new transport interchange.

interchange with what ? theres one train an hour in either direction. if it shows up.

these are things our excuse for an m.p. should be looking at. the town is virtually inaccesible by public transport.


well said, i generally only use the bus in town but a couple of months ago i decided on a trip to middlesbrough, what a mistake, i got the 36 and it took me an hour an a bloody half to get there, won't be using this again

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the main city in the region is newcastle. we have no direct bus link with it and one train an hour.

the nearest mainline rail staion is darlington.again we have no direct bus service with it and something daft like 2 direct trains per day.

regional airports are teeside and newcastle. again no bus or train links with either of them. it would take me longer to get to teeside airport by public transport than it would take to get to hamburg from teeside airport once i got there.

you still cant even get a bus to our sister hospital at north tees from the town can you?

they have also just axed the number 30 bus providing a half hourly service to sunderland.

its not like we are a rural village, this is an expanding town of over 90,000 people and if you aint got a car and cant afford taxis you is virtually stuck.

i seen a sign near where the old bus staion used to be proudly announcing that thet are finally building the new transport interchange.

interchange with what ? theres one train an hour in either direction. if it shows up.

these are things our excuse for an m.p. should be looking at. the town is virtually inaccesible by public transport.


the interchange will only be used by northern/arriva stagecoach have no plans to use it

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oh dear
no 6 - the public transport service in our town is ok to a certain extent during the hours of 8-6 outside of that it's shite.

the lack of the correct application of the law by police and traffic wardens re parking in bus stops etc is nowt to do with the shit service the customer gets - it may hamper your job but does not alter the fact that if you want to get a bus at say six in the morning or 6 at night on the route i use very rarely - i have feet and a car - then then youre fooked. and as snowy says - more than 2 of you going on a bus - get a taxi cheaper and direct and you can even get them to drop you in the bus stop!!

as chip says the service provided to this town by train and bus is bollocks - the times of the last trains and lack of bus services is ridiculous.

the bus prices still rise as the service depreciates - do stagecoach still get a massive subsidy on the amount they pay for their diesel?

i'm not criticising council estates here either but if the powers that be want more people to use public transport then they should offer services past 6 to areas other than those.

really annoys me public transport and those who defend it coz its shit up here outside of office hours

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then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


Why the heck would any self respecting soul want to use public transport and share a lift with chavs, smackheads and pensioners sat pissing in their own pants?

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The so called interchange is a sick joke...as Chip said..an interchange with what? Train pulls in, 20 people get off and none get a bus... theory well and down the f******g pan. This is the result of letting planners who never use a bus, tell the bus users what's best for them.

What we have is a piece of waste land where a bus station used to be (an empty bus staion, because it was in the wrong place and local buses never used it) and the bright young things thought let's build a bus station there again, ignoring the fact that most people using the bus are travelling to the shopping centre anyway, where it should have been built. In effect we have a bus station..OOPS ...'interchange' that's is going to become home to tumbleweeds because no local service is gonna go anywhere near it as it's off the routes and if they did they'd be wasting fuel for no reason.
AND..if people think they happen to be getting a state of the art bus station they wanna take a close look at the lovely plans....no waiting area, just a big drive through layby with state of the art bus shelters, those modern stylish ones that look groovy but don't shelter you at all, I can see the pensioners fighting each other to cross 6..yes 6 sets of lights from the shopping centre to stand there and wait for a bus and pass where they where originally ...planning?
As for the motorist, there'll be new lights in upper Church Street at the entrance and more outside the Hill Carter/ Station approach junction to let the buses exit.... and the shopping centre will still be surrounded by bus stops .....you couldn't make it up.
p.s ..at least the skate boarders will have a skateboard interchange, because according to the drawings it's gonna be perfect for them with long swooping paths... :roll:

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then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


Why the heck would any self respecting soul want to use public transport and share a lift with chavs, smackheads and pensioners sat pissing in their own pants?
..go on then...tell me?

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then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


Why the heck would any self respecting soul want to use public transport and share a lift with chavs, smackheads and pensioners sat pissing in their own pants?
..go on then...tell me?


Well you could start by enlightening me as to why you would want to share a bus with chavs and smackheads.

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Until that dopey dog gives me some useful advice on his forum then my head is currently on a tarnished chrome plate which is giving me a bit of a headache, so instead of using the excuse of this thread relating to politicians and therefore trying to answer like one just get it all off your chest.

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So that's it........................... ?

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So that's what?

Are you getting a little confused again?

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I could eat alphabet soup and sh*t a better excuse than that.... :laugh:

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John the Baptist wrote:
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then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


Why the heck would any self respecting soul want to use public transport and share a lift with chavs, smackheads and pensioners sat pissing in their own pants?


what you have to realise is that there are some nice decent people in this town who do not drive
there are also some nice decent people who due to just starting out on the property ladder cannot afford the luxury of a car

just because people use a bus it does not make them any less of a person

and are you advocating using selection rules at bus stops

so blue trousers and brown shoes mean a person cant travel
get real

some people have no choice but to use public transport stpid

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no 6 - the public transport service in our town is ok to a certain extent during the hours of 8-6 outside of that it's shite.

but does not alter the fact that if you want to get a bus at say six in the morning or 6 at night on the route i use very rarely - i have feet and a car - then then youre fooked. and as snowy says - more than 2 of you going on a bus - get a taxi cheaper and direct and you can even get them to drop you in the bus stop!! so you want a bus to run past your door between 6am and midnight on the off chance you might use it

as chip says the service provided to this town by train and bus is bollocks - the times of the last trains and lack of bus services is ridiculous. the last buses are no longer used due to the extended drinking hours and the fact that not everybody wants to travel home with slobbering drunks

the bus prices still rise as the service depreciates - do stagecoach still get a massive subsidy on the amount they pay for their diesel? yes

i'm not criticising council estates here either but if the powers that be want more people to use public transport then they should offer services past 6 to areas other than those.

really annoys me public transport and those who defend it coz its shiit up here outside of office hours
mebbes if people used it instead of criticising it then due to more people travelling more buses might run.
it annoys me when people criticise public transport but cannot come up with a constuctive solution to the problem banghead

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then again i suspect our m.p. hasnt spent much time on public transport since he got elected.


Why the heck would any self respecting soul want to use public transport and share a lift with chavs, smackheads and pensioners sat pissing in their own pants?


what you have to realise is that there are some nice decent people in this town who do not drive
there are also some nice decent people who due to just starting out on the property ladder cannot afford the luxury of a car

just because people use a bus it does not make them any less of a person

and are you advocating using selection rules at bus stops

so blue trousers and brown shoes mean a person cant travel
get real

some people have no choice but to use public transport stpid


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chip fireball wrote:
i think most folk are saying stagecoach provide an adequate if relatively expensive service in the town.

the point most of us are making is that there is no decent public transport to anywhere you might want to go to out of the town, which is worrying if you are moving hospital provision to stockton.

we cant get a bus to newcastle or to darlington, or to north tees, or to either of our regional airports. the number 36 takes an hour an a half to get to middlesborough, the 242 takes an hour and a half to get to durham, and on top of this they are pissing away money on a bus station that virtually no fooker is going to use to get on a bus.

every other town in the north east has an express bus service. the x10 for example. starts at the boro, next stop stockton then up the a19 to peterlee, and then straight to newcastle.

peterlee has an express service to the boro and the metrocentre.

we have nothing. i can ride my pushbike to the boro quicker than the 36 would get me there.

the buses using the new interchange will be :

x35 twice an hour daytime to sunderland. takes 90 minutes and no service after 6 pm or on sundays.

33 to bishop auckland. once an hour. sometimes. but not evenings and weekends.

22 to durham. sort of hourly. but sometimes 2 hourly.

241/2/3 half hourly daytime, hourly evenings to durham via peterlee and everywhere else on the planet. the bus from hell. hourly on sundays.

230 half hourly to sunderland, hourly on sundays and evenings. the least reliable bus on earth. sometimes operated by arriva, sometimes by go north east, so if you buy a return ticket, they may not let you on.

errr thats it. all these buses stop, as snowy says at the town centre, which is where folk get on and off.

so thats about 8 buses an hour, and 3 an hour on evenings and sundays, connecting to trains that run once an hour. at an interchange that will cost about a million quid to build.

you couldnt make the fooker up.


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and will just become a shelter for drunk disaffected youth, smackheads planning their next shoplifting trip to asda, and tramps.


So how will you tell the difference between them lot and any other bus queue?

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the new bus staion at peterlee looked nice for a day. now it looks like a portal to hell. they designed huge glass panels everywhere that the kids were smashing as quick as the authorities could replace them until they run out of coin so now they are either broken or boarded up.

now it looks like something from the bronx and is a virtual no go area from half seven at night onwards.

these things are okay in nice towns where they are in constant use and people respect them. but the one in hartlepool will have 2 buses an hour pulling into it after 7 o clock, and will just become a shelter for drunk disaffected youth, smackheads planning their next shoplifting trip to asda, and tramps.


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and will just become a shelter for drunk disaffected youth, smackheads planning their next shoplifting trip to asda, and tramps.


So how will you tell the difference between them lot and any other bus queue?


most of them are driving round in peugoet 106's and saxos so dont use the buses

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these things are okay in nice towns where they are in constant use and people respect them. but the one in hartlepool will have 2 buses an hour pulling into it after 7 o clock, and will just become a shelter for drunk disaffected youth, smackheads planning their next shoplifting trip to asda, and tramps.




When I worked in London, on the the way back to London Bridge station, cutting through Borough Market, I overheard two 'Harry Ramps' discussing their weekend, and one of them mentioned 'there just isn't enough hours in the day......'!


Hours in the day to do what?, shout at the sun, pi$$ oneself, harrass passers by, sh1te on the pavement?

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chip i dont wanna sound disrespectful but why cant you ask Mr I to give you a separate forum on Public Transport as this seems your pet hate at the minute. you seem to have a lot of issues on the subject and im sure you could get lots of posts and new related topics on the subject :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:14 pm 
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chip i dont wanna sound disrespectful but why cant you ask Mr I to give you a separate forum on Public Transport as this seems your pet hate at the minute. you seem to have a lot of issues on the subject and im sure you could get lots of posts and new related topics on the subject :wink:


no thats part of the fun on here banghead banghead banghead banghead banghead banghead

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:16 pm 
fun sadx about as fun as question time sadx .... just thought a transport section was required as you all feel so strongly about it


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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:19 pm 
townendtimmy wrote:
fun sadx about as fun as question time sadx .... just thought a transport section was required as you all feel so strongly about it



Well why don't we have one for ill informed EU Workers and illegal immigrants??


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oh dear
no 6 - the public transport service in our town is ok to a certain extent during the hours of 8-6 outside of that it's shite.

but does not alter the fact that if you want to get a bus at say six in the morning or 6 at night on the route i use very rarely - i have feet and a car - then then youre fooked. and as snowy says - more than 2 of you going on a bus - get a taxi cheaper and direct and you can even get them to drop you in the bus stop!! so you want a bus to run past your door between 6am and midnight on the off chance you might use it

as chip says the service provided to this town by train and bus is bollocks - the times of the last trains and lack of bus services is ridiculous. the last buses are no longer used due to the extended drinking hours and the fact that not everybody wants to travel home with slobbering drunks

the bus prices still rise as the service depreciates - do stagecoach still get a massive subsidy on the amount they pay for their diesel? yes

i'm not criticising council estates here either but if the powers that be want more people to use public transport then they should offer services past 6 to areas other than those.

really annoys me public transport and those who defend it coz its shiit up here outside of office hours
mebbes if people used it instead of criticising it then due to more people travelling more buses might run.
it annoys me when people criticise public transport but cannot come up with a constuctive solution to the problem banghead


oh dear a defensive bus driver - they'll be smiling next

No I do not want a bus to run past my door between 6 am and midnight - apparently we have one of those little hoppa type buses that runs along some time up to 10.30 apparently - bugger me.
however like i said i having feet and enjoy walking and will walk most of the time however i may use a bus on the regular bus route (not the one that enters my street - i dont even know what number it is) if its there - i aint gonna stand and wait for one and i aint gonna chase one - if its there i'm on it - if its not i'll walk. If I fancy though I'll take the car. - How cools that - freedom of choice! check me out.

the last buses were cancelled because of extened opening hours - sort of an odd statement as that means then that buses run around the clock as the last one no longer exists!! - surely this aint the case.

i think its astounding that a company as 'big' as stagecoach gets subsidised diesel - why is this, do you knwow?

How the fook can people use it outside of office hours when little or no service exists for a lot of people who don't work or live on the two main bus routes.

It's neither up to me to police slobbering drunks who get on buses nor is it up to me to come up with a constructive solution to how to reform public transport though given the time and resources i sure could.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:23 pm 
TalbotAvenger wrote:
townendtimmy wrote:
fun sadx about as fun as question time sadx .... just thought a transport section was required as you all feel so strongly about it



Well why don't we have one for ill informed EU Workers and illegal immigrants??



ok then a Politics one then banghead
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the last buses were cancelled because of extened opening hours - sort of an odd statement as that means then that buses run around the clock as the last one no longer exists!! - surely this aint the case.ok the last buses were cancelled because of extended PUB opening hours.

i think its astounding that a company as 'big' as stagecoach gets subsidised diesel - why is this, do you knwow? yes in common with all public service operators stagecoach can claim subsidies for their fuel. if this were not the case then bus fares would be even dearer.

to alter the thread slightly the polish bus drivers in stockton have been sharing a driving licence this was found out when the drivers had to present their licence for the 6 monthly check we have.

by the way just because we dont go round grinning like tony blair doesnt mean that we are miserable barstewards we leave that to the public :roll:

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:58 pm 
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and will just become a shelter for drunk disaffected youth, smackheads planning their next shoplifting trip to asda, and tramps.


And don't forget the Niteclubbers for somewhere to shag!!!! :sweeeet: :laugh:


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ok mate feet up and favourite album on time

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