Hignett......

Brian Honour's Left Foot · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:19 pm

Folk talking on mobiles, texting, surfing the net, etc..............as bad as drink drivers..............they worry me more than speeders.......although I differentiate between those who speed in built up areas and those on motorways.....

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

PJ, you're not seriously suggesting that driving up the A19 at 104 mph isn't dangerous are you ? Really ?

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

bresslaw wrote:

PJ, you're not seriously suggesting that driving up the A19 at 104 mph isn't dangerous are you ? Really ?

I think it's too fast, and excessive to be driving at that speed but it's not nessiscarily dangerous in that type of car. It's not that hard to do. I was driving on the M6 a few months ago towards Cumbria on a Monday afternoon , it's always a really quiet section of motorway I had the radio on and was enjoying the scenery I looked down and I doing a 100mph totally obliviously, I shit myself and slowed down straight away. I knew I shouldn't have been driving that fast and slowed down not because I was driving in any way dangerously, because of the consequences of getting caught doing that speed. I don't have any points on my licence but that is more down to luck than judgement as it is with most people I'd imagine. The vast majority of people who drive break the speed limit frequently. I read recently that they were thinking of upping it on Motorways.

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

A 104mph on the A19 when you've already been done twice though. The bloke clearly has no regard for the Law.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

bresslaw wrote:

A 104mph on the A19 when you've already been done twice though. The bloke clearly has no regard for the Law.

'Done twice'

Do you know the facts of his other six points? To get two separate three point penalties suggests he was caught marginally over twice. Like loads of people. To suggest he has 'no regard of the law' is almost laughable, he was driving too fast not shoplifting. Most people get caught at some point, you have to be lucky not to. Things like the average speed checks in 50 mph zones on motorways are there specifically to catch people out and have nothing to do with road safety.

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

..............now you're suggesting that shoplifting is more serious than driving over 100mph in a 70 zone . You are clearly toying here, no one is that stupid.

misterb2001 · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:44 pm

bresslaw wrote:

A 104mph on the A19 when you've already been done twice though. The bloke clearly has no regard for the Law.

Well he is scouse

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

'shoplifting kills !!!'

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

As usual most dont read whats actually been written. Just some of it.

Nothing of what PJ has written is wrong. Yet he is being made out by a few to be a fool.

And as for tjose defending plods use of speed cameras......well I just despair at their gullibility.

Have you ever noticed that there are never speed cameras at well known accident black spots?

Yet you tend to get lots where most assume the limit is 40 but bizarelly is 30. Or right near where roads change from 40 to 30.

If it was to reduce accidents they would be outside schools at 3pm. But no. That will nevwr warn them anything.

And of course you never see clppers speeding maybe at just about the time their shifts are ending. Maybe.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

bresslaw wrote:

..............now you're suggesting that shoplifting is more serious than driving over 100mph in a 70 zone . You are clearly toying here, no one is that stupid.

I'm not suggesting that at all I was laughing at your ridiculous comment that somebody who has 6 points on a driving licence has no regard for the law as if they have an actual criminal record. He's been careless and daft to be caught driving at that speed yes, to suggest anything more is going way over the top.

Plus nobody on this thread has said he deserves to keep his licence, I just don't think that's our call to make.

bresslaw · **Joined:** Sat Aug 19, 2006 10:45 am **Posts:** 2411

careless and daft.................I'll finish there.

Snowy · **Joined:** Fri Aug 18, 2006 12:18 pm **Posts:** 37772

How does it affect his ability to manage the team ? I see no point in analysing or pompously sitting in judgement on his actions.
He has been caught and punished for his regrettable behaviour, can we move on please ?

Mr Ripper · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:09 pm

PJPoolie wrote:

bresslaw wrote:

A 104mph on the A19 when you've already been done twice though. The bloke clearly has no regard for the Law.

'Done twice'

Do you know the facts of his other six points? To get two separate three point penalties suggests he was caught marginally over twice. Like loads of people. To suggest he has 'no regard of the law' is almost laughable, he was driving too fast not shoplifting. Most people get caught at some point, you have to be lucky not to. Things like the average speed checks in 50 mph zones on motorways are there specifically to catch people out and have nothing to do with road safety.

I was with you right up to the average speed cameras in roadworks but have to disagree on that bit. Have you ever worked behind a few cones and noticed the difference between a car doing 50 and one doing 70? Plus in a lot of cases the lanes are narrowed during roadworks, and often realigned through crossovers or generally to allow verge or central reserve works to be done so the road in that temporary state isn't designed for faster traffic. Also the average speed cameras do help traffic flow and reduce concertinaing of traffic and the subsequent tailbacks.

For what it's worth I reckon the speed limit on motorways should be at least 90, they're designed for that with the reduced junctions and interchanges plus as somebody has already mentioned the 70 was introduced when cars had much less useful brakes, suspensions and general safety kit than they do now. 70 is just so last century.

harp321 · **Joined:** Sat Sep 11, 2010 5:55 pm **Posts:** 56

PJPoolie wrote:

bresslaw wrote:

PJ, you're not seriously suggesting that driving up the A19 at 104 mph isn't dangerous are you ? Really ?

I think it's too fast, and excessive to be driving at that speed but it's not nessiscarily dangerous in that type of car. It's not that hard to do. I was driving on the M6 a few months ago towards Cumbria on a Monday afternoon , it's always a really quiet section of motorway I had the radio on and was enjoying the scenery I looked down and I doing a 100mph totally obliviously, I guano myself and slowed down straight away. I knew I shouldn't have been driving that fast and slowed down not because I was driving in any way dangerously, because of the consequences of getting caught doing that speed. I don't have any points on my licence but that is more down to luck than judgement as it is with most people I'd imagine. The vast majority of people who drive break the speed limit frequently. I read recently that they were thinking of upping it on Motorways.

So you were doing 100 mph and admiring the scenery, WOW, what an example for us all :snooty:

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Mr Ripper wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

I was with you right up to the average speed cameras in roadworks but have to disagree on that bit. Have you ever worked behind a few cones and noticed the difference between a car doing 50 and one doing 70? Plus in a lot of cases the lanes are narrowed during roadworks, and often realigned through crossovers or generally to allow verge or central reserve works to be done so the road in that temporary state isn't designed for faster traffic. Also the average speed cameras do help traffic flow and reduce concertinaing of traffic and the subsequent tailbacks.

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No I haven't so you probably make a fair point, it doesn't make them less annoying especially areas were it seems nothing is happening. Obviously you get sections with the narrow lanes (like the A1 near Scotch Corner) were it is tight and you couldn't do more than 50 if you wanted to but you get sections were you feel you are having to 50 for the sake of it.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:22 pm

Does anyone have any stats on the safety of autobahns?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

harp321 wrote:

PJPoolie wrote:

harp321 wrote:

[quote="PJPoolie"]Some of the most dangerous drivers on A roads and Motorways are ones who drive slowly. Driving 50 mph in a 70 is something you would fail your driving test for but loads do it especially on a Sunday. The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket. Rarely do you see a speed camera on a school run or dangerous road. It's were they can catch people and balance the books.

The speeding laws are mainly a money making racket!!!!

That statement shows what a bloody idiot you are, the speed limits in this country are there for SAFETY and speed cameras are there to ensure that happens, balance the books my arse.

I wonder if the parents of a recently killed child who was hit by a dickhead doing 60 in a 30 zone would share your views

You sir are beyond stupid.

If you can't understand my point then God help you.

Doing 60 in 30 zone is clearly idiotic, dangerous driving. You hardly ever see any fixed speed cameras or Police cars within cameras in 30 zones outside of really built up residential areas though. They'd rather put them in areas where they know people are likely to be speeding without giving it much thought. The two popular ones in town are near High Tunstall school coming down the bank from Elwick where you have to brake fairly hard to be doing less than 30 and the roundabout near Lidl facing towards the part of the dual carriageway that is a 30 but loads think is 40. There's been a bobby car pretty permanently sitting at the top end of the A19 near Thirsk for months, it's just before you get to the motorway and probably the quietest section of the entire road. If you think he's there with road safety in mind then you are either naive in the extreme or extremely gullible. It's all about numbers and hitting targets.

And you are the thickest person who ever used a keyboard, it`s always other people who don`t get it, never you, you blinkered self obsessed thickett.[/quote]

You seem to have it in for PJ like your mate monkey butt did. Have a break from here for a bit

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Haha

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Jesus what a sad man.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19975

PJ you,re talking a load of sense don,t let the idiots get you down. time of day, road conditions etc. are never taken into consideration. a couple of months ago a neighbour got caught by a camara van 6.30 on a saturday morning doing 36 in a 30 area and got done. he was the only person on this road at the time. never seen a van their when the kids are going to school and i use this road nearly every day at the time the kids go to school. these vans are appearing all over the country and its just a money making exercise and if people think otherwise they are deluded or the holier than thou types who class speeding and violant crime about the same. i passed my test in 1967 and my old man said to me prepare to join the criminal classes. how true.

ElvisC · **Joined:** Mon Aug 15, 2011 9:55 am **Posts:** 4504

I got done in Sunderland last year on the hospital road, 7am on a Saturday Morning, doing 34 in a 30 zone. Was going up there to pick my Daughter up, she'd been out in Sunderland, stayed in the Premier Inn with her mates and needed to be back in town by 8 for work. I was literally half asleep and realised about 100 yards into the 30 zone. Slowed down to 28 but was too late. It's a horrible feeling, bloody stupid. £60 fine and 3 points accepted.

accrington fan · **Joined:** Wed Jan 20, 2016 3:22 pm **Posts:** 19975

once you seem em its too late now as the techie bits about them has improved. supose they would have called it an unnecessary journey as she shouldn,t have gone to sunderland in the first place.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Definitley too late when you see them as you say, when I was on a speed awareness course last year he showed some videos of how far away they can now get you from-lots of them werent even in sight yet even on a clear day etc.

Was quite an interesting course and got plenty of biscuits dished out.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

I hate these jobsworth c unts that do this.

Someone somwhere is getting murdered. Soneonr else is being robbed. Houses and businesses are getting burgled.

Yet hundreds of coppers are hiding in vans making criminals out of easy targets and them some dumb bastads making out its all to make the roads safer.

I cant really say what I would like to jappen to these coppers. And I am usually pretty graphic.

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

ElvisC wrote:

I got done in Sunderland last year on the hospital road, 7am on a Saturday Morning, doing 34 in a 30 zone. Was going up there to pick my Daughter up, she'd been out in Sunderland, stayed in the Premier Inn with her mates and needed to be back in town by 8 for work. I was literally half asleep and realised about 100 yards into the 30 zone. Slowed down to 28 but was too late. It's a horrible feeling, bloody stupid. £60 fine and 3 points accepted.

I got done in the exact same road back in january, went to 33 n back down to 30 almost immediately, but it was too late n i got clocked, done the speed course n avoided the points.

That rate is purely a cash cow, just like easington road its not a dangerous road, you could go faster on it with no problems, but they know they are getting people coming just off a motorway who will be adjusting from going fast to slow.

Wommers · **Posted:** Fri Aug 26, 2016 12:48 pm

Someone at work told me recently they got done on the motorway with an average speed camera. They had come onto the motorway off a slip road, with no signage whatsoever to indicate there were average speed cameras, accelerated up to 70mph and only realised when they saw the next camera in the series that they had been "speeding". The guy got a fine through the post, so he appealed, saying there was no signage etc to indicate the speed limit on the slip road. The response he got was something along the lines of "well take us to court then". As the guy's got three kids and a chewy job he couldn't be arsed with the hassle so "accepted" the 3 points and fine or whatever he got. Unreal.

demented twig · **Joined:** Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:09 pm **Posts:** 1043

he`s not the messiah,he`s a very naughty boy

Grayhoundend · **Joined:** Tue Aug 19, 2014 12:13 pm **Posts:** 7669

the courts and the chairman have done him no favours

lets HOPE he doesnt kill some one next time and end up behind bars

and if you think theres not going to be a next time your kidding yourself

TalbotAvenger · **Posted:** Sat Aug 27, 2016 2:22 pm

The Colonel wrote:

I hate these jobsworth c unts that do this.

Someone somwhere is getting murdered. Soneonr else is being robbed. Houses and businesses are getting burgled.

Yet hundreds of coppers are hiding in vans making criminals out of easy targets and them some dumb bastads making out its all to make the roads safer.

I cant really say what I would like to jappen to these coppers. And I am usually pretty graphic.

Is speeding classed as a criminal offence?

Has the murder rate gone up since coppers started hiding in bushes with speed cameras?

Just asking for a friend

Blue Beard · **Joined:** Fri Jan 06, 2012 4:12 pm **Posts:** 694

Irresponsible, reckless and stupid.

Can't believe anyone is attempting to defend him.

Let's not forget how much crap McCromack gets. Hignett was simply lucky he didn't hit anyone.

Chesssington · **Joined:** Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 pm **Posts:** 900

As I see it, he should have been banned, no debate.

However, he went to court, pleaded his case and got away with it. The law sometimes is 'an ass' but so be it, we move on.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Blue Beard wrote:

Irresponsible, reckless and stupid.

Can't believe anyone is attempting to defend him.

Let's not forget how much crap McCromack gets. Hignett was simply lucky he didn't hit anyone.

You mean someone who was driving, pissed as fart and fell asleep at the wheel and killed two kids and paralysed their Dad.

Yeah that's really similar to someone caught speeding.

What the fuck, seriously?

Yubep · **Joined:** Wed Jan 31, 2007 6:35 pm **Posts:** 25266

And that's the end of that chapter!

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