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 Post subject: GARY COXALL
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:17 pm 
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Today i had a meeting with the chairman regarding the group i am setting up now i know some may take the mick ,ridicule me for doing so but as fans of HUFC i think it is only right to include all fans and fans group ie : the bunker,the trust,corner flag ,south east poolies ,facebook HUFC page which i am doing so here goes.

FRIENDS OF HUFC 1908 just a name of the group in a embryo stage this may and could be changed if members wish.

joining fee of £5 per adult per year £1 per child £25 per company

soul intention was to raise money for youth team until my talk with GARY COXALL today Gary suggested giving something back to the ie cheap or free coaches ,his idea as been taken on board but that would be a members/committee decision.

Ex player ROB MCKINNON & JOHN HEWITSON have contacted me to offer there help if needed which was gracefully accepted .

At todays meeting with the chairman he as offered the club centenary lounge for a meeting sometime towards the end of september or early october ,hopefully leaflets will be going out for the mansfield game on the 17th of sept,hope you will give this your consideration as other groups have done thanks for your time and effort in reading this.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 7:41 pm 
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Right I'm not going to dish out any insults here or be insulting based on any so called rivalry.

Can you give a legitimate reason why you want to set up a separate group to the Supporters Trust which is well underway and is a nationally recognized structure, adopted by many fans across many teams with legal underpinnings?

Similarly the supporters association has been raising funds for many years that are donated to the youth team.

You talk about unity and fans pulling together yet you seem to want to do something independently from 2 thins already established. Seems very very strange to me so I am very interested in your answer


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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I'm a bit confused to what the agenda is behind this, as has already been said the Supporters Association have been doing this for years regarding raising money for the youth team it seems like a bit of a kick in the teeth to them.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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I'm a bit confused to what the agenda is behind this, as has already been said the Supporters Association have been doing this for years regarding raising money for the youth team it seems like a bit of a kick in the teeth to them.


no ronnie is up for it 100% and this also a attempt to pull all groups together as one,so far HUFCSA,HUDSA,SOUTH EAST POOLIES,FACEBOOK GROUP plus ex players i am on no agenda or ego trip this a attemp to get all fans on one as for spelling hey we are all not einstiens,but i said my peice some may want to look at it some may not your choice thanks for your time and comments.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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So why don't you throw these efforts behind the Trust then as the place for all supporters to unite under one banner for the good of the club? That's what the nationally recognized supporters trust organizations have been established for. Could only be Hartlepool where another group wants to try and do something almost exactly but slightly unlike rather than joining and putting all weight behind the Trust.

Can you answer that question please?


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Fair play to you for doing something for the club. Without wanting to sound mercenary, would do people get for their fiver?

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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Coxall2015 wrote:
PJPoolie wrote:
I'm a bit confused to what the agenda is behind this, as has already been said the Supporters Association have been doing this for years regarding raising money for the youth team it seems like a bit of a kick in the teeth to them.


no ronnie is up for it 100% and this also a attempt to pull all groups together as one,so far HUFCSA,HUDSA,SOUTH EAST POOLIES,FACEBOOK GROUP plus ex players i am on no agenda or ego trip this a attemp to get all fans on one as for spelling hey we are all not einstiens,but i said my peice some may want to look at it some may not your choice thanks for your time and comments.


But we already have the supporters association and the Trust. Do we really need another supporters association which is essentially what this is? I'm not knocking efforts to raise money for the club I'm a bit confused to what it's all about really.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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PJPoolie wrote:
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I'm a bit confused to what the agenda is behind this, as has already been said the Supporters Association have been doing this for years regarding raising money for the youth team it seems like a bit of a kick in the teeth to them.


no ronnie is up for it 100% and this also a attempt to pull all groups together as one,so far HUFCSA,HUDSA,SOUTH EAST POOLIES,FACEBOOK GROUP plus ex players i am on no agenda or ego trip this a attemp to get all fans on one as for spelling hey we are all not einstiens,but i said my peice some may want to look at it some may not your choice thanks for your time and comments.


But we already have the supporters association and the Trust. Do we really need another supporters association which is essentially what this is? I'm not knocking efforts to raise money for the club I'm a bit confused to what it's all about really.


hopefully pulling all groups together could swell trust numbers,but i will say again it is a totally different remit the trust was set up when the waters where stormy this is to raise money to help the youth system ie more money better quality ,but as the chairman said he wants the fans to benefit as well ,so taken is ideas on board and other ideas will also be taken on board.


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Dalton'sHaircut wrote:
So why don't you throw these efforts behind the Trust then as the place for all supporters to unite under one banner for the good of the club? That's what the nationally recognized supporters trust organizations have been established for. Could only be Hartlepool where another group wants to try and do something almost exactly but slightly unlike rather than joining and putting all weight behind the Trust.

Can you answer that question please?


The Trust remit is there as a anchor for the club if it ever sinks at the time IOR,TMH debacle where here now they are not we are hoping to raise money to get better quailty into the youth system and as i have personally been involved in youth football in the past it was a good place to start and JOHN HEWITSON as give this the thumbs up as has CHAIRMAN ,RONNIE HARNISH who as raised money for the youth system so don`t see a problem with it.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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With all due respect that isn't the sole purpose of the trust. I suggest you read up how Trusts work up and down the country hand in hand with their respective clubs raising money/funding/forging links with the community etc


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Actually, I do class myself as somewhat of an einstien.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Isn`t October when the trust have the meeting for nominating board members?


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Dalton'sHaircut wrote:
With all due respect that isn't the sole purpose of the trust. I suggest you read up how Trusts work up and down the country hand in hand with their respective clubs raising money/funding/forging links with the community etc


I went to most of the meetings and i thought ours was set up after the IOR & TMH debacle ,and to raise money in case it went tits up in the future to safegaurd the future of the club,or as that changed ?


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 9:36 pm 
With all due respect this is not a rival to the trust, or the supporters club,it is just a group of pools supporters trying to raise money for the youth team.some of them are trust members and some like myself are casual members of the corner flag.But the vast majority have nothing to do with either of them.so surely the fact that these people are prepared to get together in an attempt to raise funds to help the youth set up is a good thing.


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harp321 wrote:
Isn`t October when the trust have the meeting for nominating board members?


I did say september or october if it clashes with the trust then out of respect i will move it.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Yes it does directly clash with the elections. I'm not sure what this new group brings to be honest but crack on.


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Valiant wrote:
pooliestreetband wrote:
With all due respect this is not a rival to the trust, or the supporters club,it is just a group of pools supporters trying to raise money for the youth team.some of them are trust members and some like myself are casual members of the corner flag.But the vast majority have nothing to do with either of them.so surely the fact that these people are prepared to get together in an attempt to raise funds to help the youth set up is a good thing.




Why don't they just fundraise then instead of spouting off on social media, and badgering the Chairman on Twitter, who I'm sure has better things to do with his time?
I'm not going to pull out a fiver to join yet another organisation, would rather just give the money direct to HUFC. At least that way I know they will get it this season.



So your not interested then fair enough,as for badgering a chairman firstly he put himself on twitter....and have you seen his private messages to me NO so therefore you can only comment what is on facebook but if it makes you happy to diss it then enjoy,you made your point when you where the first to reply .


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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2016 11:58 pm 
It's something the S.A. have been doing for years so I can't see the point in it!!!! confised
Why not just join the S.A. and help them out with ideas and fund raising for the youth team???? sctatchinghead


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Is it because they want their "own " trust
...A bit pointless really

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 Post subject: Re: GARY COXALL
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Are the people starting this new group the same people who were slating the trust and the steering group?

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I think the point that is still being missed is that when the Trust is up and running it's about working with the club to do exactly the sorts of things this new group is proposing not only to safeguard or prop up the club if the owners bail out.

It's what Trusts up and down the country are doing in conjunction with the club. A Trust is also meant to be all encompassing open membership with one man one vote. I applaud the efforts of people trying to do something for the club but wish they would have put those efforts behind the Trust which is just about to get up and running and has a structured constitutional/legal mandate used by many other fans up and down the country.

This for me is just a different group trying to do things the trust should end up doing in conjunction with the Supporters associations.

ive made the same point about 3 times already on this thread so won't repeat myself again after this but the duplication seems a waste of effort and divisive to me.

Ripper got it right, it's like The Judean People's Front


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Fair play to you for doing something for the club. Without wanting to sound mercenary, would do people get for their fiver?


I once asked something similar and got a whole wave of abuse.

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Fair play to you for doing something for the club. Without wanting to sound mercenary, would do people get for their fiver?


I once asked something similar and got a whole wave of abuse.


Was it this one?

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Are the people starting this new group the same people who were slating the trust and the steering group?

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Yes. The same people who have been anti trust from the start.


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
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Are the people starting this new group the same people who were slating the trust and the steering group?

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Yes. The same people who have been anti trust from the start.


Slated the TRUST ? enlighten me i was every meeting i believe the trust is good thing it was set up for the reason at the time seems those reasons have change .

As for same people NO just me and me alone !!!!


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Gerry Mandrake wrote:
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Fair play to you for doing something for the club. Without wanting to sound mercenary, would do people get for their fiver?


I once asked something similar and got a whole wave of abuse.


Was it this one?

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Are the people starting this new group the same people who were slating the trust and the steering group?

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Yes. The same people who have been anti trust from the start.


Slated the TRUST ? enlighten me i was every meeting i believe the trust is good thing it was set up for the reason at the time seems those reasons have change .

As for same people NO just me and me alone !!!!


Whats changed like?

Yes I know the obvious. But whats actually changed for you now to be not 100% behind a nationally recognised and supported trust?

Surely it wouldn't be because its the bunker trust now would it?

I have had a good read of your board and this place and the bunker trust (or hilda - whatever the fuck that is meant to be) slag this place off regularly. And that from a board that claims all views are valid.

You dont appear to do much stopping of it.

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this is bob right?


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Coxall2015 wrote:
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Are the people starting this new group the same people who were slating the trust and the steering group?

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Yes. The same people who have been anti trust from the start.


Slated the TRUST ? enlighten me i was every meeting i believe the trust is good thing it was set up for the reason at the time seems those reasons have change .

As for same people NO just me and me alone !!!!

Just you and you alone? So what will your £5 be spent on to improve the youth team? Sounds more like a donation than a trust.


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Basically, this is like saying I support all animal charities so ......l'll start an animal charity. What is the point ?
Taken to its logical conclusion we'd all have our own individual club charity. I'm off to start Can all the seats be different colours in the stand 2016 and why not ?

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Good luck to the bloke starting a Poolie group, whether it is the same as or different to other groups.

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ed-t-ball wrote:
Good luck to the bloke starting a Poolie group, whether it is the same as or different to other groups.


Thankyou


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