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 Post subject: Another pub bites the dust
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:23 am 
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The Saxon now joins the long list of pubs that are no more. Seems to be on the verge of demolition.

I cant even remember most of them gone, but the ones I can:

The Powlett
The Catcote
The Queen
The King Oswy
The Woodcutter
The Mowbray
The Rossmere?

There must be loads of others, and cant be that many left now.

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Rossmere still going, Mowbray is still going albeit a mini pub that seats around 40.

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Didn't there used to be a pub on seaton lane roundabout?

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 Post subject: Re: Another pub bites the dust
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The Market, The Square Ring, The North Eastern, The Alma (Brewer & Firkin), The Queen Vic, The West Workies gone from when I first started playing Pool from 1990!!!! sadx


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The Zetland and the British Legion

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 Post subject: Re: Another pub bites the dust
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It's a generational and cultural thing. When I was a kid it was normal for blokes to go to the pub for a 'quick one' after work. These days that culture has all but disappeared. Then there is the social side to it; again people used to nip down to the pub for a few drinks with or without the missus on a few occasions a week. I can't imagine ever doing that, I'd prefer a bottle of wine at home as indeed would most of the people I know.

The days of the Rovers Return being the hub of community life have passed. People are busier, have different priorities and the wife more often than not, works too so people do not have their tea on the table when they get home and husbands are just as responsible for childcare. Typically people work longer hours too which all adds up to a lack of footfall in pubs during the week.

The other aspect is the horrendous terms that breweries expect people to work with when they take over a pub. Essentially it means that all the profit goes to the brewery and all of the costs to the tenant. It's nigh on impossible to make it work.


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Some old photos of these pubs kicking about on here.

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 Post subject: Re: Another pub bites the dust
PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:27 am 
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The Zetland and the British Legion


And The Volunteer Arms & The Clansman!!!! sadx


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The Boilermakers who had some good snooker teams.

And that legendry nite club Caspers.


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Red Admiral as well. One of the ones my granadad used to go in regularly, along with the Pink Domino and the West Rugby club. With the Catcote and Woodcutter going as well, that's a vast swathe of the Rift House area very dry. Sad days.

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The fly and jug down park road. Used to be brilliant sitting out on the roof on a summer's day.. Now a 'premier' shop..


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Churchills, also on park road, used to be the place to be for sixth formers, now it's that Chinese all you can eat carry on innit?


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Used to love the fly n jug back in my college days circa 2000.

Pop in for a liquid lunch, condoms were only 50p for 3 from the machine in the bog too.

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You can add the schooner to the list planning permission submitted to make it into shops


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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
It's a generational and cultural thing. When I was a kid it was normal for blokes to go to the pub for a 'quick one' after work. These days that culture has all but disappeared. Then there is the social side to it; again people used to nip down to the pub for a few drinks with or without the missus on a few occasions a week. I can't imagine ever doing that, I'd prefer a bottle of wine at home as indeed would most of the people I know.

The days of the Rovers Return being the hub of community life have passed. People are busier, have different priorities and the wife more often than not, works too so people do not have their tea on the table when they get home and husbands are just as responsible for childcare. Typically people work longer hours too which all adds up to a lack of footfall in pubs during the week.

The other aspect is the horrendous terms that breweries expect people to work with when they take over a pub. Essentially it means that all the profit goes to the brewery and all of the costs to the tenant. It's nigh on impossible to make it work.


Men seem to take more of an active role in looking after kids these days too.

As a youngun me dad would be out at work during the week, friday night pub, saturday playing rugby and pub, sunday football and pub.

Dont think we seem him to me parents seperated.

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Red Admiral as well. One of the ones my granadad used to go in regularly, along with the Pink Domino and the West Rugby club. With the Catcote and Woodcutter going as well, that's a vast swathe of the Rift House area very dry. Sad days.


The Hourglass still open like?!


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yes Hourglass is still open

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Rift house club also gone.
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The central is still there.

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poolieinnottingham wrote:
Red Admiral as well. One of the ones my granadad used to go in regularly, along with the Pink Domino and the West Rugby club. With the Catcote and Woodcutter going as well, that's a vast swathe of the Rift House area very dry. Sad days.


The Hourglass still open like?!


Still open but if you don,t like agro don,t go there!

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I remember going in the North Eastern from the College, also there was the Birds Nest in Mainsforth Terrace. Years ago I remember my Mam and Dad going in the Crown which was over the road from the where the Clansman was, where the College is now.


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I remember going in the North Eastern from the College, also there was the Birds Nest in Mainsforth Terrace. Years ago I remember my Mam and Dad going in the Crown which was over the road from the where the Clansman was, where the College is now.


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Hartleblue wrote:
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poolieinnottingham wrote:
Red Admiral as well. One of the ones my granadad used to go in regularly, along with the Pink Domino and the West Rugby club. With the Catcote and Woodcutter going as well, that's a vast swathe of the Rift House area very dry. Sad days.


The Hourglass still open like?!


Still open but if you don,t like agro don,t go there!


I'll have every fuckin one of them out.


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The station at Seaton too.

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The Schooner was a decent pub when it was run by Hugill who built it. It was sold onto Enterprise Inns, all they did was put the rent up, several people tried to make a go of it but due to the high price for beer etc because the Terms and Conditions in place by Enterprise it was always going to be very difficult to succeed. Enterprise never spent a penny trying to improve the place with the result it ended up a very dull, dingy and dated place.
A smaller pub could succeed, some one with a bit off could build one and sell what's left to build houses or whatever, I doubt the shops will be busy, catchment area too small and they are not on the main drag.


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The Schooner was a decent pub when it was run by Hugill who built it. It was sold onto Enterprise Inns, all they did was put the rent up, several people tried to make a go of it but due to the high price for beer etc because the Terms and Conditions in place by Enterprise it was always going to be very difficult to succeed. Enterprise never spent a penny trying to improve the place with the result it ended up a very dull, dingy and dated place.
A smaller pub could succeed, some one with a bit off could build one and sell what's left to build houses or whatever, I doubt the shops will be busy, catchment area too small and they are not on the main drag.

You end up with a gathering place for local youths and litter.

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Quick question, was The Schooner ever actually decorated? I mean, was it the same when it closed as it was when it opened? That must be a record.


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Excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I've heard of a Hartlepool pub called the Schooner.
Where is/was it? Not on the Marina as its name would suggest, I assume.

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JohnnyMars wrote:
I remember going in the North Eastern from the College, also there was the Birds Nest in Mainsforth Terrace. Years ago I remember my Mam and Dad going in the Crown which was over the road from the where the Clansman was, where the College is now.


I'd forgotten all about the Birds Nest. I can't remember it in detail, except as a hazy memory of mustard-coloured walls! There was a folk club there, wasn't there?


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Excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I've heard of a Hartlepool pub called the Schooner.
Where is/was it? Not on the Marina as its name would suggest, I assume.


It was a little bit when Dave Thorburn had but it was stuck in the seventies with all the dingy brown colours on the woodwork. The majority of the the display lights behind the Bar never worked. Enterprise never spent a penny on it.


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MadJohn wrote:
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Excuse my ignorance but this is the first time I've heard of a Hartlepool pub called the Schooner.
Where is/was it? Not on the Marina as its name would suggest, I assume.

Warrior Drive, a fairly new development north of Station Lane and west of the Staincliffe


The Schooner was built before all the new developments, at the time it was only the self build which was ongoing. It had a good reputation for food when the Hugills owned it.
They got done for bad hygiene just after the Poolie Supporter (http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/lo ... -1-5588987) had it, think he had it for a while, not sure what the kitchen was like, when Hugill built it he bought everything second hand.
There wasn't enough passing trade and it relied on the surrounding estate and as drinking culture changed and people not having liquid lunches it suffered.


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