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Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Jesus Christ this is tedious.

You could have read any one of a dozen threads and you would have found Chip, Colonel and a few merrily men repeating the same thing ad nauseum. I think we get it; you votes stay whereas one and a half million more people voted leave. It's done, get over it. No government is going to ignore a national referendum result. That way lies dictatorship.

PooliePaul0211 · **Joined:** Wed Jun 01, 2011 4:59 pm **Posts:** 49

Agreed Mr I. We need to switch attention to football. The Iceland result was just so unfair. We need to start a petition and organise a march to get the result overturned.

mugsy · **Joined:** Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:17 pm **Posts:** 67

I agree with most of what you say. I was undecided right up until the day because I know that what all of the politicians involved tell lies most of the time. As far as the U.S.A and trade is concerned we currently trade with them and will continue to do so. I genuinely believe that when push comes to shove a trade agreement will be agreed with Europe because they can no more afford not than we can. A lot of the staff working in the N.H.S are from outside the EU and mostly from countries that are not as wealthy as our country and it's a disgrace the government's of all parties have not funded enough training to staff our health service and then they recruit staff that another country has paid to train leaving them short of the the professionals they need to care for their own people.
I can also remember the eighties and the shortage of work that's the reason I lived down south for many years. What I don't understand is why there are large populations of Eastern Europeans living and working in areas of high unemployment like around here, or the south Wales valleys and why foreign workers needed to be brought in to construct the new Tyne Tunnel. Probably because large corporation can exploit people from poorer countries by bringing them here and paying lower wages than local people would need.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

I'll deal with this when I get to a computer.

mugsy · **Joined:** Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:17 pm **Posts:** 67

Chip Fireball wrote:

mugsy wrote:

I agree with most of what you say. I was undecided right up until the day because I know that what all of the politicians involved tell lies most of the time. As far as the U.S.A and trade is concerned we currently trade with them and will continue to do so. I genuinely believe that when push comes to shove a trade agreement will be agreed with Europe because they can no more afford not than we can. A lot of the staff working in the N.H.S are from outside the EU and mostly from countries that are not as wealthy as our country and it's a disgrace the government's of all parties have not funded enough training to staff our health service and then they recruit staff that another country has paid to train leaving them short of the the professionals they need to care for their own people.
I can also remember the eighties and the shortage of work that's the reason I lived down south for many years. What I don't understand is why there are large populations of Eastern Europeans living and working in areas of high unemployment like around here, or the south Wales valleys and why foreign workers needed to be brought in to construct the new Tyne Tunnel. Probably because large corporation can exploit people from poorer countries by bringing them here and paying lower wages than local people would need.

Its complex and there are no easy answers, and I don't think we will get those answers while people in power continue lying to us.

There is no doubt neoliberalism and a global economy has driven down wages, for the last 30 years wealth inequality has risen at levels never seen previously in the whole of time. The rich get richer and the rest of us just struggle to get by. We have a fluid and cheap supply of labour going wherever the work is.

I'm not sure closing our borders makes much difference, the reality is that the work, and the cheap workforce will simply move elsewhere. We have created a beast and its difficult to see a way we can effect change successfully. Do we want that cheap workforce here in the UK, paying taxes, boosting the economy, keeping us in the top 5 economies in the world, or do we say no, take the jobs and the cheap workforce and go somewhere else.

This is why I felt from Day One holding a Referendum was a bad idea if we were not going to be given the full picture so people could make an informed decision.

I didn't vote, if I had I would probably have voted Remain simply because I felt the economic benefits outweighed the downside of immigration. Having seen the shambles Brexit has caused, obviously I would be more on the Remain side retrospectively.

I think the real tragedy now is that we will end up with a Brexit lite solution, which essentially pleases nobody, and makes everyone feel like they lost. That wont be the fault of people who voted one way or the other, or indeed the people who didn't vote, it will be 100% the fault of a small number of arrogant politicians.

Totally Camerons fault because he didn't have the bottle to stand up to the right of the tory party. Don't know how any working person could think Farage would work for their interest he's only interested in himself and those like him. There should never have been a referendum

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

Your evidence that I am a 'dyed in the wool racist' ?

You claimed the other day that I had posted something from British first. I have not and despite my challenging you about it you have not pointed out where this is.

As far as I'm concerned it's your standard patter; if you voted out it must be because of racism. Yes there have been incidents but hardly enough to be representative and certainly not by me.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Whoaa come on chaps.

I know Mr I very well, and know he is not racist, but unfortunately he tries to portray himself as one. Thats the problem here.

Though he is not racist, he is very very gay, and shouldnt be trusted. No doubt I will get a phone call with him crying that no one loves him, and asking to be my friend again. Usually happens once a week.

So can we get this thread back on track please?

OK. So, leavers? Why?

dykey · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:51 am

The Colonel wrote:

Whoaa come on chaps.

I know Mr I very well, and know he is not racist, but unfortunately he tries to portray himself as one. Thats the problem here.

Though he is not racist, he is very very gay, and shouldnt be trusted. No doubt I will get a phone call with him crying that no one loves him, and asking to be my friend again. Usually happens once a week.

So can we get this thread back on track please?

OK. So, leavers? Why?

The original post was about people who condemn racist and the hate crimes we have seen since the vote, yet no one seem to condemn threats probably coming from Momentum members to MPs.
The report about anti Semitism ended with a labour Jewish MP being insulted and her walking out, has anyone condemned that.
So now the thread is back on track, but never mind u are hijacking threads so try brainwash others to your opinion, as it's yours that only matters. Change your name to Haw Haw or Goebbels.
I posted somewhere about someone who posted 95 times out of 603 comments, now guess who that was.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

My apologies. I didnt realise your original post had a point.

What is it again?

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

dykey wrote:

I posted somewhere about someone who posted 95 times out of 603 comments, now guess who that was.

Mellish?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:59 am

dykey wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

Whoaa come on chaps.

I know Mr I very well, and know he is not racist, but unfortunately he tries to portray himself as one. Thats the problem here.

Though he is not racist, he is very very gay, and shouldnt be trusted. No doubt I will get a phone call with him crying that no one loves him, and asking to be my friend again. Usually happens once a week.

So can we get this thread back on track please?

OK. So, leavers? Why?

The original post was about people who condemn racist and the hate crimes we have seen since the vote, yet no one seem to condemn threats probably coming from Momentum members to MPs.
The report about anti Semitism ended with a labour Jewish MP being insulted and her walking out, has anyone condemned that.
So now the thread is back on track, but never mind u are hijacking threads so try brainwash others to your opinion, as it's yours that only matters. Change your name to Haw Haw or Goebbels.

Your wasting your time Dykey :doh:

dykey · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:05 am

Oh I know Mr Butt

dykey · **Posted:** Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:08 am

The Colonel wrote:

My apologies. I didnt realise your original post had a point.

What is it again?

Try work it out you thick person.

grabec · **Joined:** Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 am **Posts:** 830

The Colonel wrote:

My apologies. I didnt realise your original post had a point.

What is it again?

I think dykey's original point was the assumption that because no-one here has mentioned threats against MPs, we must somehow condone them. We don't. What has anyone on here said which would suggest s/he supports that sort of aggression?

So that is a red herring, presumably designed to draw attention from the fact that, since the referendum, many 'natives' in this country seem to think they've been given authority to harass and attack 'non-natives'.

By the way, Brexiters, Farage has now resigned from leading his 'party'. He wants his life back. So much for his convictions. If only he'd fucking thought of doing that earlier.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

dykey wrote:

The Colonel wrote:

My apologies. I didnt realise your original post had a point.

What is it again?

Try work it out you thick person.

You wrote that sentence and called me thick.

So tell me again, your opening post, what were you on about?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

well well well. Farage throws the hand granades, causes out utter mayhem, and now slides off, slopes away like the slug he is.

Are there any brexiters left?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

and on the same note, Boris is now telling the MP's to concentrate on the positives of Brexit.

Wasnt that your job you fat pompous Eton bummed fuckwut.

Dalton'sHaircut · **Joined:** Sun Oct 05, 2014 9:26 pm **Posts:** 1013

The other well publicized and ironic news story is that Britain is woefully short of skilled negotiators to work on the necessary legal and trade deals associated with Brexit. We are scouring the world for more bloody immigrants to come and work here and do that job

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

yeh but the leave vot won, so all is good, and we just have to get on with it.

Problem is, no one knows what it is we have to get on with.

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

The Colonel wrote:

yeh but the leave vot won, so all is good, and we just have to get on with it.

Just quoting before you edit. :laugh:

tREE_wiTH_hAMStER · **Joined:** Sat May 19, 2007 11:00 am **Posts:** 20758

Bastard you did it before I got there

grabec · **Joined:** Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 am **Posts:** 830

Dalton'sHaircut wrote:

The other well publicized and ironic news story is that Britain is woefully short of skilled negotiators to work on the necessary legal and trade deals associated with Brexit. We are scouring the world for more bloody immigrants to come and work here and do that job

Exactly. It was clear from the beginning that none of the people leading the Brexit campaign had a clue of how the country was going to proceed if we left Europe. News reporters were letting Gove, IDS and co get away with empty blathering about how the country had the means to work all that out.

I do think there were some Brexiters who had intelligent reasons for wanting to leave, but there were an awful lot who just heard what they wanted to hear and didn't weigh up the consequences or the implications. A good reason for making referenda illegal in future.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

I think the inference is though, that as we didnt say owt, we must think its ok.

But I am still unsure as to what I am supposed to think is ok.

grabec · **Joined:** Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 am **Posts:** 830

The post mentioned a crime. The poster seemed to think that the crime exonerated other, racist, crimes, otherwise why mention it? You can only despair this sort of thinking was ever allowed full rein in a referendum.

The Fat Man · **Joined:** Wed Jun 10, 2009 4:03 pm **Posts:** 2107

dykey wrote:

I find it strange that people were rightly condemning racist comments and incidents, yet are quiet when hate crimes and threats of harm are aimed at MPs. Probably says it all. We had one guy who posted 95 times out of 603 posts on four threads yet is silent.

So, where's your denunciation of the threats made to David Lammy?

It's such an easy game to play...

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