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 Post subject: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:22 pm 
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Well and truly stitched up by his 'comrades'.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:34 pm 
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More proof of the Toryisation of the Labour Party...

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:39 pm 
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Well and truly stitched up by his 'comrades'.


Remember what the old school Tories did to grammar schoolboy Ted Heath

They also fucked over Maggie Thatcher?, also a grammar school pupil

Equally treacherous Eton not nice people


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 8:52 pm 
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I'm sure. Both of those examples will bring much comfort to Corbyn.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 9:31 pm 
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Corbyn is a dead man walking.

The weird thing is he may still end up as leader.

The labour party is a s fucked as the tories.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2016 10:11 pm 
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Corbyn is there to do a job for a movement. I very much doubt he gives a fuck about the careerist politicians who are trying to do him over. He'll just be sitting with his genuine allies/comrades saying, "Is the left stronger than it was? Is the grassroots campaign better off than it was? Are more people in the Labour Party putting the needs of ordinary people first? Have we got enough rank and file support to press on?" If they can answer yes to those questions he'll be perfectly happy to tolerate all manner of shite being thrown at him.

The idea that you should move to the right to win elections is completely alien to him.Whether you like him or not he genuinely believes in what he says and isn't after lining his own pockets. That makes him a cut above most of the people plotting against him.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:50 pm 
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It appears after the refendum vote Corbyn was more in touch with the electorate than his rebellious MP's were. So after losing they want to depose the man who was right and carry on with the same old losing ways, working on the old principle that the electorates out of touch with them.Oh dear. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:54 pm 
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Funnily, I thought Corbyn was playing a blinder during the Brexit Fiasco, by backing remain quietly, letting the 2 Tory protagonists (and the Prick Farage) take the attention. Labour supporters seemed to back this action, yetthe Labour career Politicians have..... well as Snowy has just put better than I could.

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 Post subject: Re: Poorr old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:06 pm 
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Yeah the highly principled Labour leader packaged away a lifetime of anti-EU campaigning to tepidly support the Remain campaign because that's what the Unions wanted. Bravo Sir !!


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:09 pm 
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Thing is for me, I don't even think he's that decent a chap. Talks a lot about tolerance and listening but what's the point of listening if you never ever change your mind or compromise. How is that helping? Same goes for his cult following whose mantra is 'traitors', 'scum', 'elites' etc. So cliched and massively unhelpful in the situation we're in. There are brilliant people who love him, some of my good friends who worked in pretty f-kd communities but there are also many for whom aspiration is a dirty thing- they would rather drag people to their level than help them up.
And he binned his wife off who wanted to sends his kids to a non state school. Atleast he didn't compromise eh.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:19 pm 
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I don't doubt he'd be hard work on a night out. Shortly after he was elected as leader I was on a ferry to Dublin and read an article where one of his ex-wives said his idea of a good night out was going to the local Labout Party office to photocopy a load of party leaflets.
Whatever turns you on. :laugh:

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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he can never be prime minister. And he will never unite the labour party. he is a caricature of everything bad about labour. So even though he is a decent human being, he isnt really.

But the thought of Labour voting in Angela Egle as leader is just too funny to contemplate. She really is as thick as mince.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:30 pm 
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If he'd stood by his long held beliefs I'd have applauded the bloke. He could easily have told the rest of the party to vote as they wish. Instead he ended up a reluctant leader and lost his way in my eyes.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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SNP ? I give a wide berth to any party with the word 'National' in it.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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Maybe, but they have a switched on leader, who is a proper leader.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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In your opinion. Other opinions are available.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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After re reading my last post,I realise my point never came across correctly. My meaning by Corbyn playing a blinder, was due to the politics of the situation. We all new Corbyns beliefs but as leader of his party he had to begrudgingly sing from the Party Hymsheet, by doing it quietly under the Radar it put the attention on the main protagonists, both Tories. I expected the fallout to tear the Tories in half, whilst Labour came out relatively unscathed as a Party, making them stronger in a next election. However the Career Politicians have seen this a the time to get the knives out, putting Labour in more turmoil than the Tories, and INHO putting them in a weaker electoral position.

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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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Also as leader of a political party he should represent the views of that party and true consensus of what is good for the nation. He chose to not throw his weight behind that approach quite deliberately.

Sturgeon has come across as statesmanlike and is showing leadership, she certainly is speaking well and decisively. I however am going to show some cynicism here until she proves me wrong . A number of cross bench lawyers in the Lords have stated clearly that any Prime Minister does not have the legal justification to activate Article 50 without an act of Parliament. Sturgeon must know this and if she was truly genuine I would like to see her in the House of Commons actively promoting a cross party approach to push this motion. Instead she has gone back to Holyrood and said that she proposes another Scottish referendum. To me that looks like political self interest too. I hope she proves me wrong but the United Kingdom is not really her objective is it?


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
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I think Corbyn is an absolute dude - the wife joined for £3 - but nice bloke isnt enough. He needs to stand aside and let the PLP stick their best, most energetic and televisual candidate forward.


Oh fuck, thats the Eagle lassie.


Ach well, theres always the SNP.


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 Post subject: Re: Poor old Jezza
PostPosted: Fri Jul 01, 2016 6:05 am 
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I don' t like leaders. I don' t like parties. I vote for who offers me the best options in life, I have no loyalty to any political creed. I'm even more astounded by those who join a party or vote for a party for life. Anyone willing to toe a party line, stifle their conscience in the party interest and mouth their platitudes is pitiful.
A politically inflexible thought process in anyone is a poor trait.

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