Yep, Chip, you have the final word and lock it,as per!

A back of the net retort. Have you got anything of worth to offer? And by the way, it's not my country.

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The ordinary Brit has looked the Global Establishment Elite (be they from politics, business, trades unions or the media) squarely in the face and said "my democratic freedom is not for sale".

At the last, that is what yesterday was all about. The ability to elect and/or kick out those who make the rules that affect our lives and a revolution against the patronising "Nanny Knows Best" brigade. From Trades Unions to Big Business, from overseas leaders promising "punishment" and "isolation" to domestic politicians in their Westminster Bubble so far removed from the woman or man in the street it is almost painful to watch, they have been told democracy is not for sale to threats of economic Armageddon.

Memo to those who seek to govern: if you patronise electorates for over forty years, deny them a say and tell them there isn't a problem, don't be surprised when, at the first opportunity, they tell you the Emperor has no clothes and they give you a bloody nose!

My feeling of joy, the sense of freedom that is coursing through me, is tempered to an enormous extent with a sense of responsibility. Ŵe must all now make the most of our new freedom.

The Prime Minister has behaved characteristically honourably and will steady the political ship before leaving the steering to another; the Governor of the Bank of England has implemented the contingency plans already prepared; the markets are already rebalancing (and if you are selling into a dollar-based economy ....... Have a Nice Day!).

The British People will demand no dragging of feet and there should be none. In the meantime it must be "Business as Usual", especially with our EU friends and partners. It is in the interests of businesses on both sides of the Channel for a new set of rules to be agreed soonest, and for them merely to continue the present trading situation. That message should be shouted loudly from the rooftops every day and by UK businesses to their customers and suppliers in the EU....starting today!

We must redouble our efforts to make a reality of globalisation; our market (including the ability to make trade a force for wealth-generating good in the Developing World) is now truly the World. Go for it!

We are not alone; we are now truly part of a globalised economy where the fifth biggest economy on Earth can make its own decisions in its own interests. From quality, skills-based immigration to the supremacy of our Judges, from our secret individual vote really meaning something to no longer belonging to a corrupt, unaccountable, undemocratic monolith, the British Electorate handed (by more than a tiny majority and on a handsome turn-out as well) the British People, British Business and our friends and partners all over the World an oyster............

.........whether we take the pearl out of it is down to everyone of us.

Everyone has their right to voice their opinion, however, you are correct it needs to be a respectful and good natured. I'm not sure if anyone has crossed the line yet, but if they do I'm sure Mr I has the sense to lock the thread.

Mr Poolie Paul, that was a rousing speech. This is not a personal dig, but your rhetoric makes the whole situation we now find ourselves in a little well overly simplified. Lets just make some new rules and carry on? Big Business and Trade Unions telling us what to do, no their opinion as they have good experience in things like say Big Business and representing members. Rome wasn't built in a day and this mess will take quite a while to play out IMHO. I feel you are maybe a little naive or are wearing those Rose tinted spectacles.

Chip your posts on this subject have been informative and IMHO subjective. The Circus we have witnessed would be funny if it were a script for a Carry On Fillum, but its not and the fallout from this is worrying and disturbing, for the Country, Britain, the economy and Democracy. At least quite a few Politicians have been found out for what they are.

It's great all the little surprises we get hour by hour. I like the one where we're losing our AAA credit rating next week, which means debt is paid back at a higher interest rate. A 0.002% rise in the rate means we'll pay back the equivalent to the amount we were paying to the EU. Obviously we get sweet FA back from that but good times are coming, eh!?

Oh and two of the overseas investors we work with have pulled money from projects my company is working on meaning redundancies are likely next week. But that's alright because Britain is now great again and that's all the matters.

I think we will accept unemployment and a few tough years ahead as these are great times as we now have control of our borders*

*Even though we won't and won't have any impact on immigration.

Everybody of an age that allows them to vote had the opportunity to vote. 72% of them chose to do so and 51.9% of them that chose to do so voted to leave. To me that is democracy. It seems many are assuming everyone who didn't vote would have voted remain. I didn't vote but had I of it would probably of been a leave vote but as I said earlier I didn't feel I had been convinced enough either way.

We can't say it's not democracy because 28% of people didn't use their vote, that was their choice.

Like I said earlier it's no shock that this has happened following a surprise "leave" win, it's more down to uncertainty than anything else. We can't and won't really know the effects until the dust settles and we have an idea of what the deal will consist of. I've been reading a lot of reports and listening on TV to quite a bit of the from economists and one German guy from Alianz said that he believes in two years the UK will be stronger than they were before Brexit. Again no way of knowing how true this is but only time will tell.


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Hey, f@#k you and your reasonable views. This is the hysteria thread. Conform or be a thick racist.

Those French around Calais seem to organising a nice leaving present .Think they'll not be impressed about the jungle relocating to Kent.

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But its alright cos the old people have voted leave to give us back our country and put the great back into britain.

They expect thousands of the kids they are protecting to now go and get an apprenticeship down the pits or in the steel works.

They expext the steel works to suddenly re open or even dafter, be rebuilt.

But best of all they look forward to seeing ernie delivering their milk.

Ah the good old days

Seems like Labour have decided to join in with their own infighting. Its been a kick in the bollocks for the political establishment.

Aye but the establishment will have the last laugh.

And they will make the working class suffer and they will mean it.

But thats nowt compared to what the financial establishment will do when thwy get their heads round whats happened.

Well the leavets wanted a britain like rhey remembered it. I thibk they will get it. Mass stikes and the four day week with power cuts. Bring it on.

4 day week sounds good.
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How ironic the whole thing was stated by a Brexiteer when he thought he was going to lose...karma I'd say

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Chip. you are a self confessed thief who brags about dodging fares on trains. This is against the law. You also brag about not voting. If you don't vote you cannot complain.

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Do you deny it?

The Brexit Boot Boys still haven't told us when to expect the hospital to back and running. .. You have think how many people(especially the old ones doorstepped by these liars ) actually voted leave because of this ..As for "stopping the immigration ' there's more chance of Pools winning the premiership . ..

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Who said anything about the hospital? It was the Labour government who decided to move the services to North Tees. A collusion between HBC and the proposed Tees Valley unlimited wherever that is! Jobs for the boys.

What's pretty sad is that this thread has been by and large a lot of very well made points debated in detail by people who I think by and large care about what's going to happen to the country.

The counter arguments are along the lines of 'fuck you, we voted out, we want our country back, we will make Britain great, this is democracy so stop whinging'.

I wish to god some of the people who voted leave could come on and debate/discuss with points made sensibly and calmly how they think this is going to actually work and why it is better than being in the EU. If not what's the point of posting on this thread other than to call the people who are concerned and trying to have a debate about it wankers basically?

OK here are some facts. Digest them if you can see past your bigoted views.

There were 382 polling areas. 263 voted to leave.

Scotland had 32 polling areas all of which voted to remain.

There were 33 polling areas in London 28 which voted to remain.

So if you discount the London / Scottish areas only 57 polling areas voted to remain.

Also, in London, there was a huge number of foreign born voters. How they were allowed to vote is a mystery.

Camden 42%
Wandsworth 32%
Islington 37%
Haringey 40%
Hackney 38%
Lambeth 33%
City of London 25%

THIS IS WHY PEOPLE VOTED LEAVE

Thanks for that it just proves what we already thought .. Racism is alive and well in the UK

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Nothing xenophobic about me. I am merely posting figures from the Times.

Anyway you never denied that you were a serial fare dodger and encouraged other people to do it

I worked at the same company as you years ago. You have always been a windbag and don't know when to keep your mouth shut.

So Mark you don't have any denials?

Another "foot in mouth" comment by you. I never said that. You should learn how to read.

Yes you did, read page 11.

https://youtu.be/sRJby3PCfbo

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Well Mark, you don't know anything about me. I have worked for half a dozen of the biggest companies in the world. I have also been company director of 3 companies. 2 grand a week was not unusual for my travel. I thought you had been made redundant.

How many times have you been made redundant.? You seem to have had an awful lot of jobs.

Now it's time to lock the thread.

Suvin, I hope when you read this your head doesn't explode, but I read that Gays and Women were allowed to vote!!!!!!

After a page and a bit from some 70's sit com I will make the mistake of getting the decent thread back on track I have read that China has revealed concerns over Brexit. The Japanese and South Koreans too. There appears to be concerns from Asia about the Global Economy. Again this is due to the uncertainty of what will happen next.

What about Gypsies? ?? They can't vote as well can they..

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Chip, I love you to bits but FFS give up will ya. I'm getting to the point where I want to put you on ignore and I don't really want to do that as I've never done it before with anybody. Give it a rest mate, it's boring the arse off me. Please take this as friendly comment as I don't really want one of your smart arse replies. Go on you can do it, there's a good lad. just for me........please......pretty please.

That's a double request.

I would guess one of those biggest companies in the World was Mcdonalds.

Have a nice day!

There was a program on Channel 4 tonight showing footage of the Chindits in Burma. This is one of the many reasons why people voted to LEAVE. They don't want to be subservient to a foreign power.I don't suppose you watched it.

And for your info, companies I have worked for include Apple-IBM-Microsoft-LSE-HSBC- and Hartlepool Borough Council.
I have never eaten at Macdonalds or any other fast food outlet, which is why my brain functions normally, unlike yours

What you are forgetting is we never where subservient to any country (well apart from America ) As for voting out because of the 2nd World War ..Bullshit. .What next you'll want those slant eyed fellows at Sunderland to fuck off ..You are a dinosaur. Your FACIST views would make those brave lads in the war who fought against it skin crawl ...Now jog on and crawl back under your stone

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I know what those lads in world war 1 and 2 would have voted for, it certainly wouldn't have been remain.

you seem to have chip on your shoulder.

Well they couldn't vote remain could they, but I suppose but there were plenty still around in the early 1970s who might have voted in.

And you think they would have voted to leave the door open for yet another bust-up?

Seriously, what the fuck.

Whoever it was trying to make a point of the regional differences in voting, Scotland is no a longer a region. It's a country with its own parliament, all above board, legal, and constitutional.
They could have gone even further and had independence, but certain key arguments convinced them not to vote that way. One of those was that they would have to also leave the EU. Understandably, they are very pissed off about being cheated. Understandably many people who voted leave on the strength of NHS getting more money are also pissed off about being cheated.

WW1 was the war to end all wars until a lunatic racist came along and kicked off the sequel.

If you have learned anything from history you should've learned one thing..

When you have extremists of any colour creed or religion you have trouble.

I loved this board from the start, never went on another board, but it's time to call it a day for me. Bye bye.

Why?

This is of the best threads ever. Being spoilt by a couple of idiots now.

And I have no idea what derwents issue is. But he said the same to me a couple of weeks ago.

There is much to talk about not least the actual legitimacy of the vote anyway.

And so it goes on.

George Osbourne is now saying the armiggedan he predicted on Thiursday is now an OK situation in which he will carry on being Chancellor.

Personal politcal ambition over any sense of right or wrong.

And whilst he holds the purse strings you can all kiss goodbye to ever seeing the £350m a week forthe health service.

Carry on regardless..................nothing to see here.

In other news, the Labour party continues to press the self destruct button.

4 more leave in the last hour.

Oh what a joyous decision was made on Thursday.

Politics has never been funnier, yet tragic.

The ones laughing here will be the Lib Dems, who are about to rise like a phoenix from the flames.

The thing is people keep mentioning this £350m promised to the NHS. As far as I can see it never was. The slogan said "we give the EU £350m per week - let's fund our NHS instead".

It's left for people to interpret however they wish, and they did want people to think it said they would give the NHS £350m per week, but that's not what it says.


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