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 Post subject: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:16 pm 
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I know these come up quite often but was hoping someone could give some advice.

Was issued a ticket this morning by Northern Parking Services (NPS) when parking at the cinema in town (where I park quite often when I'm teaching in one of the nearby buildings). I parked up at 9am, they issued the ticket at 9:40am after apparently observing from 9:30am.

The reason given was "non-patron", how can they even prove that? Checked the website with my reference and the pictures taken where just of my car. Nothing to say I wasn't a patron.

So basically I'm going to argue my case, I was hoping some bunkerites could possibly direct me in the right direction with how to do this so I don't have to pay upwards of £100?

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:34 pm 
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This company are the scum of the earth.

They issued tickets a few weeks back indiscrimiately, and if you appeal they just reject all appeals.

Both a solicitor and the CAB warned that they automatically reject all appeals.

I am thinking of starting a social media page to get some case studies on them, and maybe approach watch dog. I know a number of people are thinking the same.

They cant be allowed to win.

I am aslo approaching the cinema to find out if they support the action this company take. If they do, then I will be proposing boycotting the cinema as well.

The people must get together to stop scum like this existing.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:36 pm 
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the photos they take are pointless. As its free to park there for 4 hours. the bloke doing the ticketing is a chancer. I have his car registration number and make and model if anyone wants to chew the c unt.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 1:48 pm 
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It's not legally enforceable, you dont have to pay it.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:16 pm 
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As Yubep said it's not worth getting even concerned about it's private property only local authority can issue legally enforceable parking tickets. These chancers rely on people panicking and just paying. Don't just ignore it write them a letter telling them you have no intention of paying the 'fine' and if they are in the wrong tell them. I got one in Birch services on the M62 over a year ago, I got a couple of letters but after I wrote to them they just stop, they can't do a thing. Ignore the 'appeal' process it's all a load of bolllocks to make them seem all official the ticket is meaningless.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:40 pm 
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If a private company takes you to court they have to prove loss. Given the cinema was presumably closed at this time they will not be able to do so. Just ignore it and they will go away eventually. They will probably get your details from DVLA and threaten you with court action and threaten to ruin your credit history but its all hot air and bluster and they might even send a letter pretending to be from a solicitor. Just ignore it. The only time you have to take notice is if you are actually served with court papers.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:44 pm 
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Thanks for the replies.

Rang the company, got basically palmed off onto their appeal process and told to provide evidence of a receipt of some sort.

This despite the fact that nothing on that site is open til 10am and the ticket was issued at 9:40am, so completely preempting that I wouldn't use the facilities.

Utter wankers the lot of them, especially the operator who issued the ticket. As the Colonel said he's an absolute chancer. No way on earth am I paying it, I'll write to them and explain what happened and tell them that no payment will be forthcoming no matter how hard they try.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:47 pm 
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I wont do it just yet, but I do have a photo of his car, and reg number, and if I get hassled by them, I will put it all over the internet.

He even told me he was doing it topay for his sick kids.

An utter bell end.

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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 2:51 pm 
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Have to say I always used to tell people to ignore them. I now know at least two people who have a county court judgement against them as a result of ignoring it.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
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Yeah I've heard similar stories from people, that apparently they will actually go a long way to try and enforce the fine these days.

Which is why I'm trying to stop it from getting anywhere near that far.


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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 3:53 pm 
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I parked at Stepping Hill Hospital and got a ticket. The ticket had the wrong reg on it. Ideal. I appealed it and it got cancelled.

The threatening letters they send from 'debt revovery' is actually just the same company with a different heared on it (always a PO BOX address to try and fool you).

If you email them, make a new email address up so they don't have your personal email too.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:07 pm 
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I would pay for the parking ticket, next door neighbour received one down at the Marina 18 months ago, took people's advice to ignore the ticket, last week had a bailiff at the door requesting payment for just under £1,200, this charge included letters sent out to his home address court and bailiff cost.

You take the chance.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:22 pm 
Or people could just buy a parking ticket for a couple of quid, don`t park where warning signs are and keep within the law, simples!


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 5:40 pm 
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Or people could just buy a parking ticket for a couple of quid, don`t park where warning signs are and keep within the law, simples!



Is stealing from impoverished families within the law?


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I think the problem is people ignoring the fine. Contest it using the template on Martin Lewis's template.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
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monkeybutt wrote:
Or people could just buy a parking ticket for a couple of quid, don`t park where warning signs are and keep within the law, simples!


And why would anyone do that in a free car park?

Just so you are clear here, as you clearly havent read everything. its a free car park. For 4 hours.

Wwhere they try to catch you out is by leaving the site on foot. There is a rule written in the small print, that if you leave the site without using the facilities you will get a ticket.

I would suggest that no one reads the small print. Not when in big letters it says FREE FOUR FOUR HOURS.

You then have to prove that you used the facilities in your appeal.

We did that, as my son kept his receipt from the cinema.

They still rejected the appeal. :roll: :roll:

So I am now appealing to the independant appeals people. Though how independant they are is very questionable.

If that still gets rejected I am going to court.

I believe the burden of proof changes then........... Mr Fat Man??

I can prove my lad used the cinema, but they cant prove he didnt. I am sure the law will see that.

The really bizarre thing is, they used photgraphic evidence of his car against him. But all it showed was the car parked very correctly in the correct car park. He didnt need a ticket as there isnt a ticket machine.

I have not seen any case studies online for this exact issue, so it will interesting as to what happens next.

They want 60 notes for issuing a ticket in a free car park. They issued the ticket within 10 minutes of him parking there. Not sure what the law says on reasonable costs in a case like this.

They most definitely are scum though, the very sort fully deserving of getting painful life threatening illnesses.

I wish the worst on them.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:16 pm 
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By the sounds of your son's case, that sounds absolutely ridiculous that his appeal got rejected. Speaking on the phone to their complaints number, they outright told me if I have a receipt from either the cinema or Pizza Hut, then sending a picture of it to them explaining the case would get the fine removed. Sounds like utter bollocks if your son did exactly that.

I've gone down the route that they issued me with a ticket before the cinema or Pizza Hut were even open, denying me even the opportunity to be a "patron" in their words.

Admittedly, I didn't use any of the facilities, but again I just assumed it was a free 4 hour parking space which I got back to in plenty of time.

If push comes to shove I'll argue I left the site in order to kill time before the cinema opened, then wanted to go into the cinema to check on film listings. This can't be proven to be true or false particularly, but I would assume the onus is on them to prove me wrong, not the other way around. I could well be wrong like.

If I make no progress in the next 2 weeks with it, then I'll just bite the bullet and pay. Can't be arsed with an ever growing fine hanging over me, it's the principle more than anything. Utter robbing bastards they are, amazed it's even legal to do what they're doing.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:23 pm 
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monkeybutt wrote:
Or people could just buy a parking ticket for a couple of quid, don`t park where warning signs are and keep within the law, simples!


And why would anyone do that in a free car park?

Just so you are clear here, as you clearly havent read everything. its a free car park. For 4 hours.

Wwhere they try to catch you out is by leaving the site on foot. There is a rule written in the small print, that if you leave the site without using the facilities you will get a ticket.

I would suggest that no one reads the small print. Not when in big letters it says FREE FOUR FOUR HOURS.

You then have to prove that you used the facilities in your appeal.

We did that, as my son kept his receipt from the cinema.

They still rejected the appeal. :roll: :roll:

So I am now appealing to the independant appeals people. Though how independant they are is very questionable.

If that still gets rejected I am going to court.

I believe the burden of proof changes then........... Mr Fat Man??

I can prove my lad used the cinema, but they cant prove he didnt. I am sure the law will see that.

The really bizarre thing is, they used photgraphic evidence of his car against him. But all it showed was the car parked very correctly in the correct car park. He didnt need a ticket as there isnt a ticket machine.

I have not seen any case studies online for this exact issue, so it will interesting as to what happens next.

They want 60 notes for issuing a ticket in a free car park. They issued the ticket within 10 minutes of him parking there. Not sure what the law says on reasonable costs in a case like this.

They most definitely are scum though, the very sort fully deserving of getting painful life threatening illnesses.

I wish the worst on them.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:33 pm 
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monkeybutt wrote:

Do you walk round with a sign on stating your a wind bag or do you have to be unfortunate enough to find out?


Why not just put me on ignore. Or is that too difficult for you to work out?

Or maybe even join the odd debate. Or again, is THAT too difficult for you?

Or you could just crack on with your insults, like you do with most people.

Which ever you choose I am sure it will be comedy gold.

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 6:39 pm 
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monkeybutt wrote:

Do you walk round with a sign on stating your a wind bag or do you have to be unfortunate enough to find out?


Why not just put me on ignore. Or is that too difficult for you to work out?

Or maybe even join the odd debate. Or again, is THAT too difficult for you?

Or you could just crack on with your insults, like you do with most people.

Which ever you choose I am sure it will be comedy gold.


I joined the debate by stating you could buy a ticket, I could have strung it out to several paragrahs but I would be eating into your singular viewpoint thread hogging time, I like to keep it concise and calling you a bag of wind is quite polite considering.


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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 7:23 pm 
Soma, the issue is if the sign states its for patrons only then no one should be parking there if the place isn't open. You wouldn't park on someone's drive just because they were out. Sadly it's private land and they can do what they want, there's no legislation so each case will be individual.

I'd just pay and not park there again.


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monkeybutt wrote:
The Colonel wrote:
monkeybutt wrote:

Do you walk round with a sign on stating your a wind bag or do you have to be unfortunate enough to find out?


Why not just put me on ignore. Or is that too difficult for you to work out?

Or maybe even join the odd debate. Or again, is THAT too difficult for you?

Or you could just crack on with your insults, like you do with most people.

Which ever you choose I am sure it will be comedy gold.


I joined the debate by stating you could buy a ticket, I could have strung it out to several paragrahs but I would be eating into your singular viewpoint thread hogging time, I like to keep it concise and calling you a bag of wind is quite polite considering.


It's a free car park ffs man. Read the thread!

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 Post subject: Re: Parking Ticket Advice
PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:25 pm 
The suggestion to buy a ticket was aimed at soma, ie buy a fuckin ticket in a designated car park or street with a pay and display, rather than try to find a cheapskate option and end up getting caught out, which has happened.
You get nowt for free these days, if it looks too good, it is generally a rip off, live and learn or be like the colonel, your choice.


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PostPosted: Thu May 19, 2016 8:26 pm 
Oh and read the small print on signs :hand:


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Appeal ,pay the reduced fine when they you get the opportunity but still take it all the way. If you win the parking extortion team have to pay u your money back.. you can't lose .bot like the situation with the theiving bastard council..

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I see Morrisons have got new signs up and CCTV in their 'free' car park. Trying to stop people parking there and going into town I guess.

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monkeybutt wrote:
The suggestion to buy a ticket was aimed at soma, ie buy a fuckin ticket in a designated car park or street with a pay and display, rather than try to find a cheapskate option and end up getting caught out, which has happened.
You get nowt for free these days, if it looks too good, it is generally a rip off, live and learn or be like the colonel, your choice.


Hardly being a cheapskate using what I thought was a free car park. I asked for advice and people have provided some, and I appreciate that. You on the other hand are just acting like a self-righteous know it all, despite everyone on this board knowing that to be far from the truth. Don't bother replying, I'll be sticking you on the ignore list from here on out.


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Soma, the issue is if the sign states its for patrons only then no one should be parking there if the place isn't open. You wouldn't park on someone's drive just because they were out. Sadly it's private land and they can do what they want, there's no legislation so each case will be individual.

I'd just pay and not park there again.


In the new light of day and having had time to calm down a bit, I will most likely just be paying the fine. Fully expect the appeal to get me nowhere.

Not quite sure I agree with parking on someone's drive as an analogy for my situation, but I take your point.

Funny thing is I usually just pay and display at the train station car park, but decided last minute to just park in the cinema as I was only in work for a couple of hours to invigilate. Bloody typical luck. violin


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For someone who one said that life's too short to be too serious about it, Monkeybutt doesn't have get involved in his fair share of niggles on here.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:08 pm 
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Soma wrote:
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The suggestion to buy a ticket was aimed at soma, ie buy a fuckin ticket in a designated car park or street with a pay and display, rather than try to find a cheapskate option and end up getting caught out, which has happened.
You get nowt for free these days, if it looks too good, it is generally a rip off, live and learn or be like the colonel, your choice.


Hardly being a cheapskate using what I thought was a free car park. I asked for advice and people have provided some, and I appreciate that. You on the other hand are just acting like a self-righteous know it all, despite everyone on this board knowing that to be far from the truth. Don't bother replying, I'll be sticking you on the ignore list from here on out.


Just ignore him. Hes just a nark that no one likes. Fullof shit that wouldnt say it to your face.

I understand your position with the firm though and your case. I alsosee why you maybe will just pay up.

I DO have a photo of his car though, which shows the reg clearly. I am defo putting it on here if my appeal isnt sorted properly.

I am going to war the c unt.

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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:52 pm 
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For someone who one said that life's too short to be too serious about it, Monkeybutt doesn't have get involved in his fair share of niggles on here.


You think i`m being serious?

Just shooting the breeze and letting the angry people take umbrage, this early retirement leaves me with far too much time on my hands :-D


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PostPosted: Fri May 20, 2016 1:55 pm 
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monkeybutt wrote:
The suggestion to buy a ticket was aimed at soma, ie buy a fuckin ticket in a designated car park or street with a pay and display, rather than try to find a cheapskate option and end up getting caught out, which has happened.
You get nowt for free these days, if it looks too good, it is generally a rip off, live and learn or be like the colonel, your choice.


Hardly being a cheapskate using what I thought was a free car park. I asked for advice and people have provided some, and I appreciate that. You on the other hand are just acting like a self-righteous know it all, despite everyone on this board knowing that to be far from the truth. Don't bother replying, I'll be sticking you on the ignore list from here on out.


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