This terrorist threat

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

A couple of things are bugging me after watching tne news this morning.

First off.

Apparantly the security services in Belgium have said they knew about these suicide bombers from Belgium.

They said it, from what I can gather, to give us all confidence that the security services are on the ball.

But this is just a pisstake surely?

If they knew them, who come they were alive? If they are a Terrorist threat, and the western world is at war with IS, then why werent they taken out......permanantly?

Are the scurity services THAT weak?

The other thing:

It was announced that there are around 500 known Jihadists in the UK now.

Again, if the security service know this, why havent they been rounded up and burried under a few tonne of concrete?

Surely just saying we know who these people are isnt good enough anymore?

If I ever lose a relative in a terrorist attack,a ndthe services say afterwards they knew these c unts, then I would sue the fucking service for their stupidity.

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 10:50 am

You need to be careful here Colonel, there are people on here who think you can't do anything to "suspected" terrorists as its against their human rights.

And apparently our security services know who they all are and have got a grip of their plots to kill and maim innocent UK citizens.

You know, just like the Belgian security services have stpid

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:13 am

Block B Blues wrote:

You need to be careful here Colonel, there are people on here who think you can't do anything to "suspected" terrorists as its against the law

FIFY

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:58 am

Ask yourself if the law should apply to these people.

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:04 pm

Every suspect should be rounded up, dragged from their hideouts by the ball hair and flogged with Susan Boyle :shifty:

born toulouse · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 12:36 pm

Problem is where do you draw the line between a known terrorist and somebody who has sympathies with their political goals but wouldn't commit criminal acts?

The Belgian security forces say that they knew about some of the terrorists. OK so he terrorists probably suspected that and hid. I'm sure they would have been arrested/shot while resisting arrest if they could have found them. Same in the UK - they'd arrest anybody they knew was a terrorist. If they'd broken the law by plotting, possessing explosives and so on they'd be locked up.

I reckon the security forces don't know half as much as they make out, they just like to moan about their lack of powers because they'd like to be able to spy on people, tap phones and hack computers with complete legal impunity.

Montpoolier · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 2:07 pm

The problem is if you start introducing repressive laws you are destroying free society from the inside as well as from the outside.
If there are suspects, put a tail on them, catch them in the act, arrest them, then drag information out of them about the others, whom you are then justified in arresting without contravening Magna Carta or Habeus Corpus or any other of the foundation stones of a free society.

Which is no doubt exactly what they are trying to do, except they don't appear to be as good at it as they pretend, as Mr Louse says above.

grabec · **Joined:** Thu Jun 04, 2015 10:45 am **Posts:** 830

Block B Blues wrote:

Ask yourself if the law should apply to these people.

That doesn't help, though, does it, when you're looking for a solution?
The problem is too complicated. Daesh sympathisers are operating in the fabric of too many countries. Kill off a few here and there, and thousands more are waiting as replacements.

There are Muslim groups working in this country, targeting youths who seem to be influenced by terrorist propaganda, and educating them as to the reality of life with ISIS. Apparently most of the youths tend to have second thoughts when they see videos of what ISIS do, not only to us 'decadent westerners' but to their own people as well.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

You got to follow due process. Locking people up without trial is counter productive, look up Northern Ireland internment. It was a fantastic recruitment advert for the IRA. 'Men behind the wire' and all that.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

These awful human beings deserve to be shot. Taken away and a bullet in the back of the head. No trila, complete denial, and no body ever found.

Rememmebr these lot blow themselves up. They have no moral compass whatsoever.

If you take these scumbags out, at least the next batch would take a while to brainwash, if no one was there to do the brainwashing.

Too many innocent people are being killed for any other solution. And many of them are muslims.

Mr Irrelevant · **Joined:** Thu Aug 17, 2006 8:25 pm **Posts:** 22671

I entirely agree but you need solid evidence not just suspicion. You start taking out innocents and you will radicalise thousands. It will get a lot worse.

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

The biggest problem is it's probably the brainwashed rather than the brain washers blowing themselves up.

It's a very complex situation although ideally you'd like to see these fuckers hung drawn and quartered but stooping to a similar level as these sub humans will probably only succeed in acting as a better recruitment drive for the likes of ISIS than any mentalist preacher would.

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Wed Mar 23, 2016 3:26 pm

Wondered when you'd appear.

Is that the best you can do, label someone.

Not just me saying it, be consistent in your digs. If you have a problem with my views out me on ignore, I'll do likewise.

Hope this helps.

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

I am not suggesting mass murder. But if they know who the 500 Jihadists are then just get rid of them.

If every country did that and said nowt, and kept on denying involvement, there would be no one to tell others.

Its way too convenient to say by doing this will just make others join.

There would be little to join.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 7:33 pm

How do you know this isn't happening already?

The Colonel · **Joined:** Mon Aug 21, 2006 8:49 am **Posts:** 4891

Because if it was, there wouldnt be 500 of the bastards walking freelly around the UK.

The idea that by wiping out the 500 would mean another 500 would immediately replace them is too stupid for words.

Take out the 500 brainwashed idiots and the few doing the brainwashing. Sorted.

Its gone too far to allow any sort of freedom of speech for them.

poolieinnottingham · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 9:22 pm

Surely making a handful of the orchestrators disappear will be more effective?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:00 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Block B Blues wrote:

Wondered when you'd appear. Is that the best you can do, label someone.
Not just me saying it, be consistent in your digs. If you have a problem with my views out me on ignore, I'll do likewise.
Hope this helps.

Me labelling someone ? Try reading what you wrote. Heres some of it :

"There are people on here who think you can't do anything to "suspected" terrorists as its against their human rights."

So you are not having a go at terrorists, or the security services, but having a pop at people on here, like its their fucking fault. Not for the first time.

I dont know about other boards you frequent, but I moderate this one, and read most of whats posted on it. NOBODY on here at any point has said that the police /security services should do nothing against suspected terorists as it infringes their human rights. NOBODY. You basically made it up, then had a pop at people on here on the back of a tragedy.

That's pretty offensive, basically accusing people of having sympathy for terrorists based on a lie. You then start bleating because someone has had a dig at you ?

FFS, unreal.

As for ignoring my posts, thats probably wise, given reading them is a bit like a dog listening to classical music. .

Unless it was Bach bbolt

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:43 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Block B Blues wrote:

Wondered when you'd appear. Is that the best you can do, label someone.
Not just me saying it, be consistent in your digs. If you have a problem with my views out me on ignore, I'll do likewise.
Hope this helps.

Me labelling someone ? Try reading what you wrote. Heres some of it :

"There are people on here who think you can't do anything to "suspected" terrorists as its against their human rights."

So you are not having a go at terrorists, or the security services, but having a pop at people on here, like its their fucking fault. Not for the first time.

I dont know about other boards you frequent, but I moderate this one, and read most of whats posted on it. NOBODY on here at any point has said that the police /security services should do nothing against suspected terorists as it infringes their human rights. NOBODY. You basically made it up, then had a pop at people on here on the back of a tragedy.

That's pretty offensive, basically accusing people of having sympathy for terrorists based on a lie. You then start bleating because someone has had a dig at you ?

FFS, unreal.

As for ignoring my posts, thats probably wise, given reading them is a bit like a dog listening to classical music. .

I know exactly what you meant with the comment about me logging on to the wrong board, you know what you meant, in my book that's labelling.

You want to label me a racist, crack on. It's what you're good at, cheap shots at people you know fuck all about then twisting their words with a few inaccuracies of your own. But hey, it's your board isn't it, you're always right and anyone with different views or opinions to yours is wrong.

Hartleblue · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 10:52 pm

Put simply I agree with everything the colonel has said. end of! rakxe

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:23 pm

Hartleblue wrote:

Put simply I agree with everything the colonel has said. end of! rakxe

You do know he thinks he shits out of his elbow

Coxall2015 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:10 am **Posts:** 77

Chip Fireball wrote:

Block B Blues wrote:

You need to be careful here Colonel, there are people on here who think you can't do anything to "suspected" terrorists as its against their human rights.

And apparently our security services know who they all are and have got a grip of their plots to kill and maim innocent UK citizens.

You know, just like the Belgian security services have stpid

You appear to have logged into the wrong Pools forum.

Hope this helps.

Nothing changes does it ,there always one !

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Thu Mar 24, 2016 11:46 pm

Chip Fireball wrote:

Now you are claiming I called you a racist ? WTF ? That didn't happen either.

You are the one having cheap shots and twisting words here. In fact not so much twisting words, more like making them up as you go along.

Its getting embarrassing.

Yes, but the only thing that is embarrassing is your denial.

Come on then, explain what you meant, this'll be fun. Because I, and others know what you think of another certain forum and everyone who posts on it.
Or am I making that up as well?

Coxall2015 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:10 am **Posts:** 77

Maybe his keyboard as stopped working can't talk without it .....

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

Without getting into this petty inter board nonsense again you did make a bit of a daft comment about 'people on here' Nobody thinks what you are suggesting. It's not quite in the same League as these 'do gooders' who are also to blame for Jihadist terrorists. I have read and heard a lot of people blaming these this week! We need to find them and stop them...

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:08 am

What fucking planet are you on?

Reporting back! FFS! Never been on there, never had an account on there and probably only ever looked at it a handful of times. Don't know where you get that one from but it's totally inaccurate and a blatant lie!

PJPoolie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 06, 2013 6:28 pm **Posts:** 15342

At the end of day loads are people are saying daft stuff because they are angry about what these Bastards are doing to innocent people.

Coxall2015 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:10 am **Posts:** 77

Chip Fireball wrote:

I take issue with the fact you have suggested that people on here have sympathies with terrorist scum, or are worried about their human rights. That's deeply offensive not least because it is untrue.

Suggesting someone sympathises with those involved with IS, frankly, that's worse than labelling someone a racist in my book.

As well you know, seeing how you log in there every day and would appear to be reporting back, I have stated several times I do not read the other boards. I was told there was a thread or two about me and said at least three times, I don't care what is being said about me, or by whom, I have zero interest in reading it.

Again to suggest that you know what I think about EVERYONE posting on a forum I don't read is another blatant lie. You cant possibly know what I think about everyone, the only person who knows that is me.

Ultimately my life is too short to waste on people I have fuck all in common with and fuck all interest in spending time with. That includes you.

If you want to carry on insulting people, and me in particular, then knock yourself out. However, if you carry on suggesting that anyone on this board has sympathies with IS , or whatever they are calling themselves this week, the post will be removed.

Well you should not listen to what people tell you and report what you see with your own eyes there are no threads about you at all I can tell you for fact your name may have been mentioned along with others ,so in future don't listen to tittle tattle .

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2016 12:24 am

No problem, drop me a PM and we can talk it through.

Coxall2015 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:10 am **Posts:** 77

With respect you have never dissed me to my face on here yes but that is past as is into the Blue it is a new board under new and old moderators ,some people cannot forget the past but as a board we are trying to ,and I am personally seeing to that we have hard mentioned things that where a cause of trouble when it was into the Blue .
We have done away with the so called board rivalry and so call hatred of the trust,we are as a board starting a new with different opinions which hopefully be respected ,there are always a minority who can't leave things in the past,the more we ignore them issues more chance of a happy medium we have never actually met face to face but have been in the same room at trust meetings.
And as I have said we are prepared to things in the past but silly remarks will hinder that but we as a board will try so hopefully the bunker can do the same or should I say it's users .

Block B Blues · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2016 1:44 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

Just grab me at the match or in the pub. I don't want to fall out with you over this because you and I are probably not very far from feeling the same way about this, just express it different.

Probably right Chip, try and catch you tomorrow.

Mill House? Before or after or both?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:11 am

Coxall2015 wrote:

With respect you have never dissed me to my face on here yes but that is past as is into the Blue it is a new board under new and old moderators ,some people cannot forget the past but as a board we are trying to ,and I am personally seeing to that we have hard mentioned things that where a cause of trouble when it was into the Blue .
We have done away with the so called board rivalry and so call hatred of the trust,we are as a board starting a new with different opinions which hopefully be respected ,there are always a minority who can't leave things in the past,the more we ignore them issues more chance of a happy medium we have never actually met face to face but have been in the same room at trust meetings.
And as I have said we are prepared to things in the past but silly remarks will hinder that but we as a board will try so hopefully the bunker can do the same or should I say it's users .

What is the new board name?

Do you need a blogger to report on ladies garden bits?

monkeybutt · **Posted:** Fri Mar 25, 2016 9:43 am

Chip Fireball wrote:

Look if you want to discuss it with me I'd rather do it face to face.

You obviously have issues with me, and I don't take kindly to the inference I or any of my friends have any sympathy with these fuckers, and I also don't like people saying I've called them a racist when I haven't.

Like PJ has said, if you are going to make a fairly serious accusation against " people on here " generally then you either need to back it up with something, or withdraw it. You can hardly complain if people have a go at you about it though can you ?

Never trust a bloke who names his penis and for the record, he calls his `Justin` :hand:

Coxall2015 · **Joined:** Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:10 am **Posts:** 77

monkeybutt wrote:

Coxall2015 wrote:

With respect you have never dissed me to my face on here yes but that is past as is into the Blue it is a new board under new and old moderators ,some people cannot forget the past but as a board we are trying to ,and I am personally seeing to that we have hard mentioned things that where a cause of trouble when it was into the Blue .
We have done away with the so called board rivalry and so call hatred of the trust,we are as a board starting a new with different opinions which hopefully be respected ,there are always a minority who can't leave things in the past,the more we ignore them issues more chance of a happy medium we have never actually met face to face but have been in the same room at trust meetings.
And as I have said we are prepared to things in the past but silly remarks will hinder that but we as a board will try so hopefully the bunker can do the same or should I say it's users .

What is the new board name?

Do you need a blogger to report on ladies garden bits?

No to the request I can trim a bush without garden shear's thanks anyway for the offer.

Hufc1908

Chesssington · **Joined:** Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:36 pm **Posts:** 900

Watch Panorma on catch up if you need any more proof of how incompetent both the French and Belgium security services are confised

Remember the attempted arrests in St Denis following the Paris attacks when those inside eventually blew themselves up.

More than 5,000 rounds were fired by the security services and yet inside they found just one hand gun.

Also I didn't realise that over 700 people were injured in addition to 130 odd dead in the night of the Paris attacks. It seems the police in Paris didn't want support from the French special forces and so the cowards were allowed to continue shooting those in the theatre for over 2 hours. An absolute disgrace.

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