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 Post subject: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 8:48 am 
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No detail just yet but I see a couple of explosions have been heard at Brussels airport, not looking good.

On my commute into work, there has been armed police at Waterloo and on the underground for months now as it seems London is expected to be hit at some point.

I have booked up to go to Turkey on holiday again this year and yet that is getting hit every week.

Is anywhere in this world truly safe confised


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:14 am 
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I wouldn't go to Turkey if it was the last holiday destination in the world at the moment!! Way too volatile.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:24 am 
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Patagonia seems fairly trouble free if you stay away from the volcanoes (cue Tierra del Fuego separatist hostage taking at Ushuaia aerodrome).

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:28 am 
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ElvisC wrote:
I wouldn't go to Turkey if it was the last holiday destination in the world at the moment!! Way too volatile.

Egypt seems to have a bit going on as well, wonder if there's a link!

Thank fook for Seaton Carew and Crimdon Dene.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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I'll stick with Pooley Bridge.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:36 am 
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They're reporting casualties and pretty much saying that there were bombs placed. Can't really predict where and when stuff like that is going to happen.

Having said that I've always thought holidays in Turkey were a bit odd given the human rights abuses that have gone on for years. Nice people by most accounts but at gocernment level they've never been at all keen on Kurds or socialist.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 9:49 am 
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Belgium, and parts of Brussels in particular, are well known Terrorist sympathiser safe havens.

Maybe its time the rest of the world held Belgium accountable for its tollerence of such scum?

Most of the radicaliss people are well known yet the Belgium governemnt have done nothing. They could just take them out, but they havent.

So you end up with freedom for terrorists and dead innocent people all over Europe.

If the Tories and the Yanks had any balls they would come out now and blame the belgian Government.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:09 am 
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I agree with Mr Toulouse. Turkey is a "strange" country, seemingly helping the UN whilst fighting the Kurds and treating them like second class (or less) citizens. Relocating Kurds from their native region to allow other Turks to move in (something to do with oil funnily enough). On the other hand they are helping the Syrian Kurds, who in turn are helping the UN fighting IS.

This problem from memory was caused by er........ us after WW1 or 2. The Kurdish "area" was split into 4 or 5 countries. In the Turkish area the Kurds were treat like shit, at one point the Turkish government wouldn't even consider Kurds for a regoinal/local council, never mind an independent state.. The Kurds in places like Irag, Syria and Armenia, have all been recognised for their customs culture etc and have some local autonomy.

There is calls for a new country/region called Kurdistan, which Turkey is really against, maybe to do with Oil?

Just my uneducated brief and probably wrong view.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 10:29 am 
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I shall no doubt be subjected to feedback from the oversized community of Belgian ex-pats who live here, most of them Sprouts, later today.
TBH I give more of a shit about all those students killed in a bus crash just down the road from here.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:00 pm 
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The Colonel wrote:
Belgium, and parts of Brussels in particular, are well known Terrorist sympathiser safe havens.

Maybe its time the rest of the world held Belgium accountable for its tollerence of such scum?

Most of the radicaliss people are well known yet the Belgium governemnt have done nothing. They could just take them out, but they havent.

So you end up with freedom for terrorists and dead innocent people all over Europe.

If the Tories and the Yanks had any balls they would come out now and blame the belgian Government.


You might just as well blame Tintin. He has a similar level of responsibility for the birth and rise of IS.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:20 pm 
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I was in Istanbul last month for a week and really enjoyed it. My hotel was only 10 minutes or so walk from Isiktal Street, which was the area that was hit last week. Not a great fan of the Turkish government (and definitely don't like their treatment of the Kurds) but I loved the city and would definitely go back. Bad things can happen anywhere, from a drunk driver running you off the road here in Tanzania or getting a sly bat in Hartlepool town centre on a Saturday night. The closest I've been to getting caught up in anything like that is during the Westgate attacks in Nairobi when I was 5 minutes away while it was happening. Never stopped me going back.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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The Colonel wrote:
Belgium, and parts of Brussels in particular, are well known Terrorist sympathiser safe havens.

Maybe its time the rest of the world held Belgium accountable for its tollerence of such scum?

Most of the radicaliss people are well known yet the Belgium governemnt have done nothing. They could just take them out, but they havent.

So you end up with freedom for terrorists and dead innocent people all over Europe.

If the Tories and the Yanks had any balls they would come out now and blame the belgian Government.


Then our government is equally accountable if that's the case.

You can't hold anyone accountable apart from the lunatics involved. The scary fact is if somebody had been fucked that much in the head they willing to blow themselves into million pieces in the name of some warped ideology then there's very little anyone can do to stop that.

It's often surprised me though how anyone can just walk into an airport departure hall without going through any security at all. I've been to parts of the World were you do (India and Indonesia) but it makes them a bit of soft target. It's only a matter of time before this happens in a sports ground.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 12:51 pm 
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You can if you know, which they do, that the area of Moelenbeek is a terrorist hot spot. And the authorities know who most of the sympathisers are.

Even the Mayor, or council leader?, accepted the point three days ago.

There is a reeason why so much of the recent attacks have eminated from Brussels.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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I would imagine even the muslim population would want the area cleansed of its scum.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:10 pm 
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It can't be that easy it's taken months to find the missing Paris attacker in this area, and I doubt that potential suicide bombers are high on the food chain as let's be honest it's not a great gig is it?

Obviously questions should be asked why it's taken so long when he was in the area they though he was in all along but at the same time it can't be easy as simply 'wiping them out'


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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Quite a few of them according to the account I heard from an eye witness at the airport earlier as they split up and went to either side of building to maximise casualties. Nice.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 1:42 pm 
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PJPoolie wrote:

You can't hold anyone accountable apart from the lunatics involved. The scary fact is if somebody had been fucked that much in the head they willing to blow themselves into million pieces in the name of some warped ideology then there's very little anyone can do to stop that.

It's often surprised me though how anyone can just walk into an airport departure hall without going through any security at all. I've been to parts of the World were you do (India and Indonesia) but it makes them a bit of soft target. It's only a matter of time before this happens in a sports ground.


By this point Islamic terrorists have hit pretty much every type of soft target at least once - bars, restaurants, concert halls, trains, underground stations, landmark buildings, airports, planes -

They had a go at a big sporting event (Stade de France) but were thwarted by security. No doubt they'll try again.

As Mr Kibber said, life goes on, you don't become a recluse, you carry on living your life the way you want to. They can't 'win' but neither are they going to go away.

I can't decide what irritates me more, the petty inconvenience of increased security, the surveillance state we're forced to live in or the endless politically correct guff about 'faith' and 'faith groups.'

Bollocks to religious fanaticism of any description and bollocks to all the horrible patriarchal religions spawned in the Middle East.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Tue Mar 22, 2016 2:16 pm 
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According to the same Sprouts I mentioned above (one of whom btw was a first-choice goalkeeper for Anderlecht), Molenbeek is anything but a run-down suburb due to the fact it's 1) not run down and 2) not a suburb.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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Would have thought that geographical pockets of radicalisation is how it works. You can have all sorts of propaganda online but I would think building a terrorist cell or cells would have to be done by word of mouth given the level of monitoring of emails and so on. I get the impression that a lot of the young people who have gone to Syria from the UK went in groups


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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According to the same Sprouts I mentioned above (one of whom btw was a first-choice goalkeeper for Anderlecht), Molenbeek is anything but a run-down suburb due to the fact it's 1) not run down and 2) not a suburb.


Maybe they've not been home for a long time?


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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I bet there's shitloads of stuff being plotted all over the UK which is foiled and no-one gets to know about.

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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
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"By this point Islamic terrorists have hit pretty much every type of soft target at least once - bars, restaurants, concert halls, trains, underground stations, landmark buildings, airports, planes -

They had a go at a big sporting event (Stade de France) but were thwarted by security. No doubt they'll try again.

As Mr Kibber said, life goes on, you don't become a recluse, you carry on living your life the way you want to. They can't 'win' but neither are they going to go away.

I can't decide what irritates me more, the petty inconvenience of increased security, the surveillance state we're forced to live in or the endless politically correct guff about 'faith' and 'faith groups.'

Bollocks to religious fanaticism of any description and bollocks to all the horrible patriarchal religions spawned in the Middle East".

Just about sums up exactly how I feel Mr Dawes.
There are good, humane sects in all religions (The Quakers for example, and I don't mean our dearly departed rivals) but it always seems to be the blood thirsty intolerant nutters that thrive.


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 Post subject: Re: Brussels
PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2016 11:04 am 
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How many sucide attacks can they do before there are none of them left alive?
How about setting up honeypots full of showroom dummies brandishing cartoons of the mountain climbing feller. As long as nobody in the media lets the cat out of the bag it could be a win.

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