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 Post subject: Adam Johnson Sacked
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:07 pm 
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SAFC have sacked him after his guilty plea. Swift and appropriate action. Cannot see him coming back from this as he will probably serve a custodial sentence too.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:23 pm 
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Shouldve been sacked last year..Scum Morals from SAFC...

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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I disagree. Innocent till guilty thankfully. Having said that he has lied for a year. He only admitted it yesterday so they've acted swiftly and correctly I feel.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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alibarthez wrote:
I disagree. Innocent till guilty thankfully. Having said that he has lied for a year. He only admitted it yesterday so they've acted swiftly and correctly I feel.


Agreed. In this situation, Sunderland couldn't have done much else.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:33 pm 
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Fucking hell, his lass is from the town and he lives in Castle Eden

After the trial we're going to have to suffer loads of threads saying we should sign Adam Johnston aren't we banghead


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:36 pm 
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He'll be in prison for a few years first... How can you believe a word he says I'm sure if I was on the jury I wouldn't. ..

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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I can't see him going down to be honest.

I suppose it depends on the severity of the 'grooming' and the nature of the two charges he denies but I'm sure his side are going to argue that he didn't know she was 15.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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He admitted he knew she was 15 didn't he?


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Apparently in some of the correspondence she told him she was only 15. Nailed on to go down purely based on that. Yes there will be threads saying sign him on ....guaranteed.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Oh well I suppose we can delay those threads for a bit then!


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Hopefully his girlfriend will sack him as well !


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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18 year old lads can expect to serve time for this, if prosecuted, regardless of what they 'believed' about the girl's age. You never know, as we don't know all the facts, but I'd be surprised if he didn't.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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This reminds me of the Ched Evans situation, anyone got any thoughts on signing him?


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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The Fat Man wrote:
18 year old lads can expect to serve time for this, if prosecuted, regardless of what they 'believed' about the girl's age. You never know, as we don't know all the facts, but I'd be surprised if he didn't.


Even if he didn't actually have sex with her? I think the 'sexual activity with a child under 16' charge he has admitted to involves kissing her and touching her body, which is bad enough admittedly if he was aware of her age.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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When I was a teacher kids who got caught doing something serious wrong would nearly always confess to a lesser crime in the hope that it would convince you that they were telling the truth - "I looked in his bag and took some sweets but I never stole the money." "I threw the snowball with a stone in it at a bird that was in the yard, didn't know it would hit the staff room window." etc

Supposing you were charged with a string of offences and there was loads of evidence stacked against you because you were guilty, you could try the same trick on a jury. Plead guilty to the lesser charges as a way of appearing honest in your denial of the more serious ones. If the serious charges were also more difficult to prove it might be worth a try - you only have to create doubt.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Wouldn't create doubt on my mind M. ..He's as guilty as sin ..Especially as he admits to "grooming" the victim!

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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You'd have to hear all the evidence and I was talking in general terms. As things stand I wouldn't argue with you though.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
PostPosted: Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:56 am 
Didn't I read somewhere that he knew her family so obviously knew her age?!?! sctatchinghead


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I wouldn't believe anything you've read on it so far personally. Lots of it has been proved to be bullshit.

His legal team must think he has a decent case to deny the fact he's slept with her, wouldn't surprise me if he's back playing football somewhere next season.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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He likes young lasses end of, he needs to be rehabilitated for the safety of other young lasses. He's admitted some of the charges and the rest could yet be proved to the jury. I can't see how it can be anything but jail time and I'm pretty sure no club will go near him again, but with a £3mil house I'm sure he's not overly arsed about that part.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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I am sure he is overly arsed about everyone knowing he is a pervert. He should be locked up for a long time in my opinion, the lass told him how old she was its not as if he was pissed on a night out and pulled a lass who he thought was 18+ is it

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Compo wrote:
I am sure he is overly arsed about everyone knowing he is a pervert. He should be locked up for a long time in my opinion, the lass told him how old she was its not as if he was pissed on a night out and pulled a lass who he thought was 18+ is it

I'm sure I said he won't be overly arsed about not getting another club since he has a £3mil house. Maybe I wasn't clear about that bit but that's how I meant it.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Didn't I read somewhere that he knew her family so obviously knew her age?!?! sctatchinghead


Over the internet and it doesn't appear so RE: family friend. Josh Halliday, the gadgie from The Guardian, is live-tweeting the court case now and it's making for, erm, "interesting" reading...

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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dav9337 wrote:
MutleyRules wrote:
Didn't I read somewhere that he knew her family so obviously knew her age?!?! sctatchinghead


Over the internet and it doesn't appear so RE: family friend. Josh Halliday, the gadgie from The Guardian, is live-tweeting the court case now and it's making for, erm, "interesting" reading...

https://twitter.com/JoshHalliday/


Jesus, what is the girlfriend doing 'standing by him' She wasn't even nearly 16 (not that it makes a difference really) she was in year 10!!

Even if he didn't actually have sex with her he needs serious help.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Well she wont be with him for his looks.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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After reading some of the tweets .......I think he will be too old to play pro football by he gets out


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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maxyboyslim wrote:
After reading some of the tweets .......I think he will be too old to play pro football by he gets out


This is what everyone is saying but we don't actually know much more today than we did 24 hours ago.

He'd admitting grooming and kissing her so we knew there'd be the whole dirty texts and picture thing plus an admission that he'd been in her company.

The crux of the case is whether they can prove the two more serious counts of sexual activity. The bloke defending him is the same guy who has just defended Chris Cairns on his perjury charge and appears to be one of the top QCs in giving pre-charge advise. Would he have told him to plead not guilty if he didn't think he could get him off? It would appear he fancies his chances.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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No club is going to touch him with a barge pole anyway he has admitted grooming a child. I'll happily lay any bet he is playing professional football in England next season.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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If he gets 'turned on by schoolies' despite having a girlfriend that wouldn't have given him a second glance had he been a plumber etc....then there is no hope for him.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Given what many players across Europe have been found guilty of and are still playing happily I doubt he'll have a spot of bother if he manages to get off with it

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Not sure he can get off with it, his two guilty pleas could see him get two years alone.


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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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Sorry was talking in reference to the two not guilty pleas

There's also plenty of non custodial options for his guilty pleas I believe. Part of me can see him getting ten years, the other part can see 3 months.

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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He's as guilty as sin..He won't fool a jury

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 Post subject: Re: Adam Johnson Sacked
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The local rag The Mail has 4 separate articles about him on the online version, WTF has he got to do with Hartlepool ?
Does anybody on here actually buy it ?


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