Signing for pools from Bristol rovers so the daughters boyfriend who is lives down there and is a rovers fan tells me

He said he us very fast and can score (scored today ) a very good player according to him

Confirmed by Bristol Rovers on twitter

Lots of unhappy fans on twitter about it.

Unhappy Bristol fans to be clear...

Good signing maybe but what is the point of a months loan. We may as well play Bingham instead. Same old pools

Is this a serious comment or are you trying to be ironic or something?

Well as it was posted on the Bristol twitter account I presumed people would know that

One fan refered to Pools as a ..'load of donkey dollop'...oh dear.

Well he should get 2/3 games before we sign our100k forward on deadline day.








Well thats if Gazza is serious about his promotion(s) ambition to the championship! eh eh

He does sound like a decent player, however unless he is significantly better than anything we already have, I do question the point of signing another forward for a month. We already have Fenwick, Bingham and Paynter (once he's back) vying for one position. And Fenwick has been decent recently, I suspect Thomas might get more out of him.

Or possibly we are taking a look at him to sign at a future point, that's the only other way I can justify it.

so in other words we have bingham and fenwick. two fit forwards. and you're questioning getting another one in ?

He scored the winner for them today so it's a strange one!

I forgot about Oates too, he is a forward after all. I think another winger should be a priority at the moment.

To be honest, I think I'm just slightly annoyed that Bingham is going to fall down the pecking order once again. I can't believe that Bristol Rovers would let this lad out on loan for a month to sit on our bench. So one of our players is going to miss out on game time once again.

I'm possibly being slightly too cynical about the signing, these are just some initial thoughts I had.

Just bizarre all round.

Not complaining though.

He scored 17 for them last season and already had 5 this before October. He just lost his place in there team and wants to be playing games

Lets hope he gets the chance to play a few games. Tuesday must be doubtful already with this cold weather lurking about. Also scored at Wembley so not frightened of the big occassions.

http://www.hartlepoolunited.co.uk/news/ ... 06662.aspx

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Fenwick a certainty to be dropped after his inability to hold the ball up in the second half yesterday

Hartlepool fans saying this signing is bizarre...from Gaschat forum... Ha ha!

Well that's just great, two players called Harrison how on earth are we supposed to tell them apart

Are you been fooking serious or are you just stupid it's very obvious one of them has black hair durrrrrrrrrrrr

Ones Welsh so will be singing miner type choir songs and eating leeks.

I know what with our outstanding scoring record of 21 goals in 22 games and our top scorer out injured for another few weeks it's bloody bonkers signing a striker who can score goals for us for in month when we have 7 games to play!!

You're right to question it, FFS Moore sort your head out

Typical Pools this, bloody typical !!

Much better when FFP and VAT stopped us signing people

If we have 7 games in the month and Paynter is still a few weeks off being fit it makes perfect sense to bring somebody in for that month before one or more of our other forwards picks up an injury and we are left short of strikers.

You're missing my point that I laid out in my next post, and that Chip Fireball has also stated. We don't give enough of our own players chances, there doesn't seem to be any kind of foresight and future planning towards the side he wants to build.

This time last year we had Bingham on loan and everyone thought he was the best thing since sliced bread. 12 months later he's sat on the bench, barely getting any minutes and about to fall further down the pecking order to another clubs forward. What kind of message does that send to Bingham? Further to that, is he going to drop Fenwick to accommodate this lad? Fenwick who has played well recently and just scored at the weekend. If he does it's poor man management.

I just think Moore is a very reactive manager at times which, whilst it can work out in the short term, inhibits a teams growth in the long term. Which is perhaps why we are floundering near the bottom of the league season after season.

I'm just asking a few questions about the signing. If anyone can allay any doubts I have, then fair enough, go ahead.

I just hope and pray RM does not go back to 442 from 451 if he does then really it tells you he is clueless on the correct tactics what best suits our players or we are as supporters who watch the Team week in Week out.

Sadly managers are fired so quickly these days that they cant afford to give youngsters many games etc to develop. Its a results driven business and even more urgent when your ina relegation battle. Im pretty sure Ronnie wouldnt be loaning such players if we were safe in mid table towards the end of the season.

I said months ago the ammount of loanies a season should be limited to a set ammount
This would encorage lower league clubs to use there younger players and save money on wages at the same time.Maybe this will happen somewhere down the line in the future.


There seems to be a lot less younger players making the grade nowadays mainly down to limited opportunities rather than not being good enough not just at Pools but across leagues one and two.

can look at that both ways too about missing out on permanent signings.

it's good that we seem to have a plan c in this case (if it was a case of either and not both failed bids) but we need permanent signings. It's been pointed out a few times how consistently relying on loan signings means we get no chance to build our own team as it gets split up as soon as loans finish. Will be interesting to see how Moore uses Harrison as presumably he has guaranteed Bristol that he is going to be playing.

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Rovers fan here, your getting a fantastic player. Quick and skillfull and can terify defences. Only problem can be his attitude. Hence wanting to go on loan rather than be part of a squad.
Cant blame him for that and im sure he will do well for you.

There's a pretty big difference in pedigree between Harrison and Mandron in that Mandron had never scored a league goal when he joined Pools (and still hadn't when he went back). Personally I don't have any issue with the manager showing some forethought. Supposing anything happened to Fenwick in the next couple of games we'd be down to relying on a striker who hasn't scored since early October or Kudus...

As for getting knocked back on bids for permanent signings - nothing new about that, the important thing is Pools are still in the market for players and it's years since that happened.

There's a bit of a damned if he does, damned if he doesn't attitude to Moore at the minute - the fact is that some of his permanent signings in the summer haven't worked out at all, there is still quite a long injury list and if it takes a few more decent loanees to move Pools up the table, so be it.

We all know that Academy players at Premier League clubs are on stupid money - it doesn't guarantee that they will be effective in the Football League. Harrison's pedigree is that he's scored a fair few goals already at this level.

And saying Moore has shown 'some forethought' in getting him in now doesn't amount to anyone 'banging on' about it. I know what you've said about Moore's year in charge - you've been building the case for the prosecution for weeks, at some danger of repeating yourself.

What we need is quality permanent signings in this transfer window. We supposedly have money to get them so hopefully we will. Thing is with this lad from Bristol is eventually we will be the loser especially if he is any good because he will disappear back to Bristol and we will be left in exactly the same situation as before the transfer window unless we bring in permanent players. The plus point is we might win a few games but it is just a short term fix.

Ellis is someone who divides opinion and is a marmite player.
Personally I find him frustrating as he has bags of talent but he's never really kicked on and when you consider we have Marcus Stewart as a coach, who is someone I would think most lower league strikers could learn from, you wonder if he ever will.
He can certainly score goals and scored alot of crucial goals for us last season, many of which came off the bench.
For me he is more effective coming on in a game, which again I find frustrating as I just don't think he is a 90 minute player.
Like I say he will score goals but he doesn't anticipate enough for me and he is often on his heals. I wish he could read the game a little more but I guess there's not so many of those players at our level.
All that said I wish Ellis and HUFC well and I genuinely hope he does well for you.
I think if he does well there's a good chance you'll have him for 3 months rather than just a month as I'm sure something along those lines must have been agreed between the clubs before he joined you.
Hope Ellis plays his part in getting you some more wins in however long he is with you.

Good post....cheers for that Mr.Gas!!!!

We play plenty of games in his month with us so even if it is just a month lets hope it can be a season defining one. Having players for a month isn't ideal but if he turns out be a game changer this month id rather have that than not have him at all so lets hope he comes here and proves a point that he should be playing week in week out.