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 Post subject: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Fri Dec 11, 2015 1:23 am 
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I'm driving down for the match this Saturday. What's the drive down there like?
Is there any routes that should be avoided?
As a newish driver and someone not familiar with the south coast any advice would be appreciated


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Used to drive down regularly. Take the M1, then the A43 at junction 15 at Northhampton join the M40 then come off for the A34 all the way to Southampton and join the M27 to Pompey.
If you want fuel there's a Tesco at Brackley off the A43 that's handy to top up at there and back.
I tried every conceivable way to get to Pompey (not for football) for many years by car and this was the best option.

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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The a34 going north can be a nightmare if there is an issue on M40 coming back home, I used to live at abingdon so hopefully you dont get stuck in it. Agreed with Snowy that is a good place to stop if you want to go a bit further before take the second junction at Abingdon (sign for Dalton barraces) there is a massive tesco there. Watch out also for the road wroks near Northampton they can be a killer.

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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I'll give that route a go. Setting off at 6am to meet a fellow poolie who is based down there. Hopefully I'll get there in good time for a few sociables. Maybe a pools win is asking too much but we live in hope


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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As per Snowy but consider the M69/A46 as opposed to the A43. Slightly longer in miles but the M1 is a mess south of Leicester so might be an idea to get away from it sooner rather than later.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Watch out for the speed camerss on the A43. If you're going at 6 get the M1 out of the way before you take a break.

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
As per Snowy but consider the M69/A46 as opposed to the A43. Slightly longer in miles but the M1 is a mess south of Leicester so might be an idea to get away from it sooner rather than later.


Good shout. If the 50mph stretch around the Sheffield area doesn't make you want to drive into the central reservation, the one round Northampton will.

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Damn 1-0 down due to the wrong decision of the ref


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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rakxe this gets worse....

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Just get this defeat out of the way and hopefully beat Salford


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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We seem to be right back where we were a calendar year ago... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Game over.
11 points from last 17.

Are Yeovil n Dagenham this seasons Tranmere n Cheltenham from last season.
We hope so!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Sadly, now we are not capable of winning a 'tricky' away game...bye bye Ronnie !


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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I can live with not winning away against teams in the top six - its the points we've dropped against teams that are utterly shite that worry me.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Playing 4-4-2 now and having a really good spell


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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The ref is a joke again, Bingham fouled should have been a penalty but instead he books Bingham for diving ffs


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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3 now!!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:26 pm 
I think we need to change the person who is picking the team and the formation, if you could see a light at the end of the tunnel it would give some encouragement, sadly I don`t! sadx


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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I think we need to change the person who is picking the team and the formation, if you could see a light at the end of the tunnel it would give some encouragement, sadly I don`t! sadx


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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There is no light at the end of the tunnel. 2 wins in 12 tells you all you need to know. If the few teams below us turn the corner then we are fooked. Wonder if Moore will be spouting about "passion, desire, expressing themselves in fron of a big crowd" and then slating them to the media again. Had enough of him and Collins now.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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We cant afford to sack him.
Hope he is man enough to RESIGN.
Hes certainly not earning this long contract.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Our season won't be defined by games away at Portsmouth, it's the crap over the rest of the season that will cost us. Seen bits and pieces on Twitter about the game but it just sounds like same old pools, being unlucky will get us no where. We need to take chances and stop individual errors. Apperently there first was a stunner which you could do nothing about but here's no excuses for sloppiness like not reacting to your keeper making saves.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 5:57 pm 
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Dreading Tuesday now, we are there for the taking!

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Sounds shit again. Honestly now unsure about Ron. Heart says stay head says go. Would an y bright New coach come?


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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I liked the man. But he's pissing in the wind at this club, and he hasn't helped himself by replacing shite with an even runnier version. Will we see investment in January? Doubt it. Will we see more month to month loans? Almost certainly. That's not going to get us anywhere.

How many manager is that in the last 2/3 years? Four not including Collins? And we're no better off for it

We're better off using the money it will cost to pay him and his son off and spend it on some players. What manager are we going to get at this club that could turn this shite around?


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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We can't not win comfortably on Tuesday now. As has been correctly pointed out, games away to teams like Portsmouth shouldn't decide a manager's fate but a humiliation at home to a non league side following a big away loss quite easily could.

No excuses on Tuesday, any less than a win and Ronnie will have to look at himself. He can blame the players in the first game but to not sort it out for the replay he can only blame himself.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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We where not expecting a result at Portsmouth but then again if you can't score goals you can't win games I am afraid Ronnie Moore doesn't seem to have any answers in fact he seems to be clueless he can't use the excuse of not his signings I remember tranmere fans last season saying this would happen I would say Tuesday's cup replay against Salford will be one of the biggest games in ronnies career, but then again financially can we afford to let him go


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 7:06 pm 
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We where not expecting a result at Portsmouth but then again if you can't score goals you can't win games I am afraid Ronnie Moore doesn't seem to have any answers in fact he seems to be clueless he can't use the excuse of not his signings I remember tranmere fans last season saying this would happen I would say Tuesday's cup replay against Salford will be one of the biggest games in ronnies career, but then again financially can we afford to let him go


Can we afford to not let him go, look at the alternative!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 8:47 pm 
Moores said" We are miles away from where we need to be", that my fault or his?


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Pools have been in decline for six or seven years, it won't be turned around overnight. And away to Portsmouth..... you expected what?


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Would presume it has to be turned around in January.
But that shudent mean defeats before then should be acceptable especially in a division that is absolute bobbins!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Mr Irrelevant wrote:
Pools have been in decline for six or seven years, it won't be turned around overnight. And away to Portsmouth..... you expected what?


Show a bit of fight? Maybe test the keeper?

Don't get me wrong, Portsmouth were a class above today. They were sharp, quick, incisive and creative. But you go into the game knowing what they are capable of and should try to deal with it. We stood off them and let them do exactly as they pleased.

A team that are struggling should make themselves hard to beat, stop crosses coming in and hustle and harry. But on a day like today you look at the first team and the ones on the bench and wonder how we pick up any points at all!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Chip Fireball wrote:
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Game over.
11 points from last 17.

Are Yeovil n Dagenham this seasons Tranmere n Cheltenham from last season.
We hope so!


I think York are the ones with the biggest problems. They haven't won a game for over 3 months, and I think that's 9 on the bounce they have lost. Have also shipped 16 goals in their last 4 games.

Dunno if the new manager will be able to do for them what Moore did for us last season.


Shocking form for York. Who on earth is in goal for them?

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
PostPosted: Sat Dec 12, 2015 9:51 pm 
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Pools have been in decline for six or seven years, it won't be turned around overnight. And away to Portsmouth..... you expected what?


By overnight do you mean 6 months where we have cleared out the dross, got new players in and still showing no signs of improvement?

If you were the manager of a retail unit with these results, you would be collecting JSA by now, achieve or leave!


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Am not panicking yet but as Chip says, next 3 at home, no win in them and it's time for a change of manager imo.

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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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They've said there is money to spend but with some of the shit we've have signed this season would you trust him to sign more? Especially if his position was actually being considered would it be best to keep some cash aside?

For those who haven't seen the goals ... http://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sp ... hartlepool

The first is a good strike but no tackle comes in. Second is from another cross and the young lad makes a mistake. Fuck knows what Featherstone is doing for the third and we've gave up by the fourth.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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Ronnie wasn't our saviour, when he took over we were 6 points a drift, then it eventually became 12, then think we picked up 3 wins and a draw in 4 games...climbed out of the relegation zone, started losing again, but thankfully so did Tranmere & Cheltenham. I like the bloke, seems like a decent fella, BUT surely the club must be thinking about his position.
I mean, he's nearly as bad as Louis Van Gaal 'the philosopher' with his tactics/substitutions.... :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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People are going on like Portsmouth are real Madrid here. There not twenty points clear at the top. Getting beat their is no disgrace its the predictability of it that is worrying.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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This season hasn't been very good so far, that is very fair to say, the best I've seen us play in a game was when Luton beat us 4-1 Which probably speaks volumes.

We're nearly half way through the season now so the table doesn't lie. A few people have said on here that we've replaced bad players with worse players, I'm not so sure I agree with that. Carson, Paynter, Bingham, Magnay, add to that some decent quality loan signings in Gray, Jackson and Naismith. I think they are all good players. So it makes me ask are they playing for the manager?

But at the same time we can't just keep sacking managers every 6 months, Moore is doing no better or worse than any Pools manager has for years (he's done better than most) at some point we need to stick with one and let him end up with a group of players that are all buying into his way, that's never going happen if you keep making the manager the fall guy.

I'd like to see other aspects of the club improve, scouting, coaching, the youth set up. If you get the basics right at this level and a run a club probably you'll turn out a half decent side more often than not.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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PJPoolie wrote:

But at the same time we can't just keep sacking managers every 6 months, Moore is doing no better or worse than any Pools manager has for years (he's done better than most) at some point we need to stick with one and let him end up with a group of players that are all buying into his way, that's never going happen if you keep making the manager the fall guy.



Problem is, does anyone think he's gonna make this group come good? If not then we'd have to back him and bring in even more players.

I'm sure he's working under difficult constraints but I can't help feeling our only hope of excitement comes with finding a good young loanee who can stick around for a full season.

I can't decide if I actually want us to stay up and endure this crap year on year.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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If we go down the crap will get even crapper, see Lincoln, Darlo, Stockport, Grimsby ect.

The chairman has said players will come in during January so I think by the end of this season our side might look very different to what it does now. For turning things around last season Moore has probably bought himself more time than most but as I've said before we will get nowhere while we always sack managers but all the other people at the club in positions were they are making football decisions remain constant.


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We will probably win on Tuesday....but early Jan if results haven't improved ? Give Sam a go, or bring in ? , there are plenty of unemployed managers out there. Personally I hope Ronnie can improve results.....and Billy Paynter is back playing soon.


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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We couldn't beat salford and they only had won a couple of games at home. Salford come to us having won something like 17 away games in a row recently. I'm not sure where we get the confidence from that were going to win this game. We should win it but we have not played well once for 90 minutes this year. Keep hearing about all these good players we have and have signed on loan yet have won 2 games in 12. Maybe they aren't that good after all.


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Salford come to us having won something like 17 away games in a row recently.

yet got beat in their last away game.

Fact is the are 3 leagues below us, if we are professional and determined, we'll win.

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billinghampoolie1908 wrote:
Salford come to us having won something like 17 away games in a row recently.

yet got beat in their last away game.

Fact is the are 3 leagues below us, if we are professional and determined, we'll win.
certainly did but its fairly obvious they are way better away than at home. Have we got the players in the team to score goals to beat them? Can you rely on this team to beat a team 3 leagues lower?


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 Post subject: Re: Portsmouth
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If we did lose this game then surely Moore has to go? If Moore was to go anytime soon then I see that Graham Alexander is out of work still after being sacked at Fleetwood, wouldn't mind seeing him in charge at Pools, without Collins by his side.


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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Chip Fireball wrote:
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Game over.
11 points from last 17.

Are Yeovil n Dagenham this seasons Tranmere n Cheltenham from last season.
We hope so!


I think York are the ones with the biggest problems. They haven't won a game for over 3 months, and I think that's 9 on the bounce they have lost. Have also shipped 16 goals in their last 4 games.

Dunno if the new manager will be able to do for them what Moore did for us last season.


Shocking form for York. Who on earth is in goal for them?

The worst goalkeeper in the league playing for the worst team in the league. Sounds about right to me. And as for sacking Ronnie. No thanks. Not if it leaves Collins in charge. Perhaps bringing in a coach who knows the job rather than one who is learning it would be the solution.


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