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Managed to get a couple of tickets. International friendlies are not really my thing but I suspect this one will be a bit different.


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My lad in the RAF has a free ticket, escorting one of the teams out carrying one of the flags


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A proud moment for the lad, and I dare say his dad too.


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Will be a surreal moment if everyone does sing the French anthem.

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btw were Bosnia booing the minutes silence last night? Either our sound went funny or they turned it down?

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tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Will be a surreal moment if everyone does sing the French anthem.


Just logged in specifically to post under a new thread heading 'surreal', great minds and all that Tree !

Totally agree and hope it happens.


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Anyone know the words???


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Chesssington wrote:
tREE_wiTH_hAMStER wrote:
Will be a surreal moment if everyone does sing the French anthem.


Just logged in specifically to post under a new thread heading 'surreal', great minds and all that Tree !

Totally agree and hope it happens.



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Wouldnt mind watching it, imagine it will be a strange game but said id take our lass for a meal sadx

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A proud moment for the lad, and I dare say his dad too.


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Extremely proud, given the added circumstances


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Le Marseillaise is one of the best national anthems around anyway, we should always sing God Save the Queen to that tune far more rousing than ours that doesn't really go anywhere.

"God Save, God save the queen, God save, God save the Queen"

"Long to, Long to, Long to reign over us"

"God save, God save the queen"

See it works :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Le Marseillaise is one of the best national anthems around anyway, we should always sing God Save the Queen to that tune far more rousing than ours that doesn't really go anywhere.

"God Save, God save the queen, God save, God save the Queen"

"Long to, Long to, Long to reign over us"

"God save, God save the queen"

See it works :laugh:


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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A better idea. Lets just get rid of that bloody religious shite that implies only the queen is worth saving.

I dont believe in god and have a huge list of people ro save before that nazi sympathiser.

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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Great goal by the way.

And a team full of young players.

Has the penny fiinally dropped.

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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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It was on the radio how kids are only playing a handful of league games before their first call up. Fact is they're the best option.
Just wish Roy would have the bollocks to drop Sterling, worst player for England in many of the recent games. He can't spot a pass, which is probably best as he can't pass 5 yards anyway and also has a habbit of running in other's way. If he couldn't dribble a bit he'd look average in Pools team.


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Did I mention he can't cross too? :uhoh:


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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It was on the radio how kids are only playing a handful of league games before their first call up. Fact is they're the best option.
Just wish Roy would have the bollocks to drop Sterling, worst player for England in many of the recent games. He can't spot a pass, which is probably best as he can't pass 5 yards anyway and also has a habbit of running in other's way. If he couldn't dribble a bit he'd look average in Pools team.

Shite pass for Rooneys goal ha

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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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It was on the radio how kids are only playing a handful of league games before their first call up. Fact is they're the best option.
Just wish Roy would have the bollocks to drop Sterling, worst player for England in many of the recent games. He can't spot a pass, which is probably best as he can't pass 5 yards anyway and also has a habbit of running in other's way. If he couldn't dribble a bit he'd look average in Pools team.


Don't worry, you weren't the only one thinking this prior to his cross for Rooney. :laugh:

We look properly good here. We might just have some cracking young players coming through. Alli and Kane especially.


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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But woy will dwop them for the ewos and replace them with henderson and milner.

Its the english way.

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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Liking that midfield three.

Add wilshire and the pace of walcott and chamberlain and thats a decent squad.

Much better than we normally suffer.

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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Fuck me a thread about England were the words 'good' and 'playing well' are featuring. I suppose with the weeks events everyone knew there were playing.

People will be not picking the bones out of reasons we should be worried about a Pools win next :shock: :laugh:

Some very good young players, Kane's all round game is excellent, Alli looks class amazing he was playing in League One last year. Rooney has played very well as well.

Mind Pogba looks some player, didn't Man United release him!? That's worse than Pools scattering Jonny Rowell.


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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Think I've cracked Sterling, on the break he's pretty good. Running at pace and acting on instinct.

When the opposition are sitting back he isn't bright enough to create a chance.


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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He is clearly talented but not quite the player his transfer fee suggested he is yet. He's quite frustrating to watch but I'd rather stick with players like him than revert back to the likes of Henderson and Milner safety first let's not get beat (but still do) approach. You do have talented young players with technical ability lets play them.


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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England played well against a weakened French team. Much as I enjoyed seeing Alli putting in a proper dynamic midfield performance Pogba did enough to show that if he'd started France would have won. Even with Gignac up front they would still have won.


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 Post subject: Re: England v France
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England played well against a weakened French team. Much as I enjoyed seeing Alli putting in a proper dynamic midfield performance Pogba did enough to show that if he'd started France would have won. Even with Gignac up front they would still have won.


I thought France were pretty poor and yes they may have been a weakened team, it was only a friendly and I have no doubt the lead up to the game will have impacted the performance but all that being said, to use the classic cliche, you can only beat what is put in front of you and England did that comfortably IMO.

On that showing, France could do in euro 2016 what the England rugby lot achieved, or should I say failed to achieve and that is not get out of the group stage.


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We are looking much more positive and youthful which is a nice change from the likes of Gerrard, Lampard and co. Milner needs to be as far away from the team as possible IMO, as dibble says bring in Wilshere, Chamberlain and Walcott and we have ourselves a decent squad. If Vardy keeps up his goalscoring we should have a good chance of doing alright in the Euro's.

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England played well against a weakened French team. Much as I enjoyed seeing Alli putting in a proper dynamic midfield performance Pogba did enough to show that if he'd started France would have won. Even with Gignac up front they would still have won.


What a load of bollocks


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We have a good spine in Hart, Stones, Barkley/Alli and Kane.

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England played well against a weakened French team. Much as I enjoyed seeing Alli putting in a proper dynamic midfield performance Pogba did enough to show that if he'd started France would have won. Even with Gignac up front they would still have won.


What a load of bollocks


Have a look at Chessington's perfectly reasonably way of diagreeing with what I posted and learn something - you can argue about a football match/player by actually putting forward alternative ways of looking at things rather than shouting bollocks.

France were playing a few second and third string players, possibly because of reactions to last Friday. Pogba would normally be the first name on the sheet and you could see why he is widely rated as Europe's best young midfield player. Effortless control and some lovely passing high up the pitch even though a lot of the other players seemed to have lost interest by the time he came on.

Mr Chessington is right to say you can only beat what's in front of you and a lot of people, including me, have said how good it was to see a young players playing well but that was along way from being a full strength France with their minds on the job. If you can explain to me why that is bollocks I'm happy to listen but if you're just going to be abusive why bother posting?


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born toulouse wrote:
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England played well against a weakened French team. Much as I enjoyed seeing Alli putting in a proper dynamic midfield performance Pogba did enough to show that if he'd started France would have won. Even with Gignac up front they would still have won.


What a load of bollocks


Have a look at Chessington's perfectly reasonably way of diagreeing with what I posted and learn something - you can argue about a football match/player by actually putting forward alternative ways of looking at things rather than shouting bollocks.

France were playing a few second and third string players, possibly because of reactions to last Friday. Pogba would normally be the first name on the sheet and you could see why he is widely rated as Europe's best young midfield player. Effortless control and some lovely passing high up the pitch even though a lot of the other players seemed to have lost interest by the time he came on.

Mr Chessington is right to say you can only beat what's in front of you and a lot of people, including me, have said how good it was to see a young players playing well but that was along way from being a full strength France with their minds on the job. If you can explain to me why that is bollocks I'm happy to listen but if you're just going to be abusive why bother posting?


I read your post and thought to myself what a load of bollocks hence why I posted it. Would hardly call it abusive, your post had zero facts and was complete fabrication and guesswork hence why I thought it was a load of bollocks. Hopefully this clears the matter up for you.

Oh and for the record it was far from a full strength England team aswell but last nights result was irrelevant. What happened in the minutes before the game was what it was all about and I was very proud to be English watching it. We get a shitload of stick from events from the 80s but deep down we proved last night we are a good country with good people. Compare is to the events in turkey before there game. In my opinion disgraceful scenes.


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Funny enough, I couldn't give an opinion on who was good or bad. The goals were impressive but at the stadium itself the game was very much incidental.


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We have a good spine in Hart, Stones, Barkley/Alli and Kane.


If everyone is fit is Kane the man to lead the line. He had a lot of chances against Spain and also in the qualifiers before that game but didn't score. He shows he has it at club level but for some reason he seems to be struggling for goals for England. Weird how he's came on and scored but has never scored when he's started despite having a shitload of chances. Thought Rooney played really well in behind and sterling performed better than he did against Spain. Happy with alli and dier performances but a don't think either would start in France if all were fit. Hodgson annoys the life out me and if Milner and welbeck are fit he plays them. It's very frustrating. Stones seems to be the most composed English centre back since Rio burst onto the scene in the 90s.

One thing for sure though is we have the makings of a very good squad and it's no surprise we won all 10 group games. A lot of supposed minor countries are starting to perform very well and beating the supposed big boys but we came through it very well. Wether we can do it at a torny and a penalty shoot out though still worries me.


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Herre is how the French paper 'Liberation' reported it. Translated through google.... and they're right, there was something truly profound in that stadium last night.

Scoop: the British love us

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It's a bit of a surprise, almost a revelation. It is especially good news, a nod smile in a sad face. All French-bashing ridiculous, these multiple spades on our cheeses and our smelly breath that stink of garlic, all this was a joke, a profound misunderstanding. A bit like the battle of Agincourt or even the unfortunate episode of Joan of Arc. In fact, it was a terrible mistake. Because we now know it, we are sure since Tuesday evening: the British love us! And what it feels good!

Already hear the cynics of all stripes to cry out, criticize these hypocrites rosbeefs. And no. In fact, you do not hear them. Perhaps precisely because this Tuesday evening, for once, they preferred to remain silent. Because there was really no place for cynicism in this almost packed Wembley Stadium. We can say what we want, but the English know how to receive.

The arrival to the immense arch of Wembley illuminated in blue, white and red, underlined the words "Liberty, Equality, Fraternity" had something breathtaking. An hour before kickoff, William Marcotte, 37, came with a team of managers of Saint-Martin Decathlon Boulogne-sur-Mer was amazed: "This is crazy, I have the feel at home. I am so, so proud to be there. " At his side, William Leburge, 35, as saying. "We came to London for work and the match was to be a surprise for the team, but we had to tell them Saturday, ask them if they really wanted to come, if they were not afraid, and they all answered present. "

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Prince William, British Prime Minister David Cameron, the leader of the Labour opposition Jeremy Corbyn, the Mayor of London Boris Johnson had also responded and were in the stands. All had decided to come "in solidarity". If this is not love, it's at least a serious sign of tenderness.

By Saturday, the Christmas Graët, president of the French Football Federation, had reported to his counterparts of the English Federation (FA): in spite of the attacks of Friday, November 13, the team of France wanted to play this game. All weekend, the two agencies worked with the authorities to strengthen security. So yes, around the stadium teeming with armed police. The bags were searched more than usual, security announcements in speakers-ups have increased, especially after the announcement of the cancellation of the match Germany-Netherlands in Hanover.

But ultimately, this Tuesday night, he was so little about football. The stakes in this friendly match really had nothing to do with the assessment of competence of one or the other before the next international deadlines, before that famous Euro-2016, which will be welcomed by France, in June. They were all there, the twenty-three players present Friday, November 13 on the lawn of the Stade de France. Even Lassana Diarra, who lost his cousin in the attacks, and Antoine Griezmann, whose sister survived the attack against the Bataclan. Both players were substitutes, but entered the field in the second half. "By playing the terrorists proves that France is standing strong in front of them and we must support it. Sometimes when terrible things happen, football is a place to feel comfortable, relaxed. This unit will be a great evening for all to see. It will show the terrorists that the world continues to live and keep their head, "warned striker Wayne Rooney and England captain. And that's exactly what happened. A beautiful evening.

English fans sing La Marseillaise
A few minutes before the kickoff, the flags of the two teams were deployed in the field. Then the teams are entered. In the tunnel, just before arriving in the light of the stage, the English captains Wayne Rooney and Hugo Lloris French gave themselves a long hug. All players wore black armbands. On the lawn, they are placed facing the grandstand of honor. As usual. Except then, nothing went as usual. Both coaches, Didier Deschamps and Roy Hodgson have advanced, surrounding Prince William. The three men wore wreaths, they have registered on the sidelines, in tribute to the 129 victims of Friday's attacks. And the hymns rang. And unlike the usual, not that of the nation invited that was played first. God Save The Queen gave the kickoff of national songs. And a breath crossed the stage. British media had launched the idea, the FA had taken for himself. English fans had been invited to sing the Marseillaise.

The Daily Telegraph had published on its front page the words, a Sunday Times journalist, India Knight, had even tweeted a phonetic version of the French anthem. Large screens at both ends of the field also showed the lyrics. This long awaited Marseillaise suddenly sounded, sung by 72,000 spectators, of which a large majority of English royalists. Chills and goosebumps guaranteed. If this is not love that! On Twitter, some even bet on the Marseillaise at the top of all the charts at Christmas..


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Fair point about the England team being weakened too but to be honest I thought some of the younger replacements were better than the regular starters.

Can't understand the rest of your answer though:

My opinion 'had zero facts'. Does that mean you disagree or have you got a hidden stash of facts to reveal that means that everybody has to think the same as you?

'Complete fabrication and guesswork' What did I fabricate? What did i guess? I watched the same match as you did but seem to have noticed different things. Therefore you decided it was easier shout bollocks. Fair enough, but why would you bother?

The you just do some odd nationalist rambling and I'm not getting drawn into some argument about whether you should be proud to be British or not. If that's how you get your jollies you go ahead, I was just trying to have an online chat about football.

Finally, just saying bollocks to people is obviously abuse. Not terrible abuse or anything, nothing that would bother me unless the person saying it was being aggressive in other ways at the same time, but not a constructive way to discuss things either. If you just shouted bollocks every time you disagreed with somebody you'd have a strange life and more than your fair share of fights.


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That was an almost perfect Englsnd team. Unless people want to give the usual suspects another chance to underachieve in the finals?

Englane should pick a team NOW full of these younsters, even if its not quite eady for euros.

It would be ready for the next world cup though.

But no. England will drop some of them for the old guard, like they always do.

Stick with the young players and show some balls.

Germany did it one year and won the following world cup.

We actually passed the ball around last night and kept possession.

Can you imagine a team with Milner in it doing that?

Even Gerrard, one of the most overated palyers ever, used to give the ball away all the time, with his so called, brilliant, long range passing.

I enjoyed that last night. The first time in years.

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all aboard the outrage bus.

I shouldn't but I will you wrote........

If pogba started France woukd have won.

Now how do you know this?? To me it's a fabrication and complete guesswork. No evidence or anything to back this up.

In reality he played 45 mins. During that time England won 1-0. Now to suggest France would win the other 45 2-0 or better to me seems like bollocks. I remember them having 1 shot at butland in this time. Pogba set this up. Pogba put 1 over the bar and we missed chances also. If somebody wants to suggest my countries football team wouldn't have won a game that they comfortably did, on a English football forum then personally I think I'm allowed an opinion on that and my opinion was that it was a load of bollocks. If you are offended by this then I think you have issues. Everyone talks bollocks it's hardly a shock. No doubt you think this is a load of bollocks but I certainly wouldn't get upset about it.

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if people like milner n jagielka come straight back in for ali and stones then we may aswell not bother going because last night we seen enough in these younguns too see that this is the way to go.

Stones is fantastic on the ball, always looking to keep it n play football, and a brilliant defender too, ali has the lot, bite, he can pass, he can shot, with every game he looks better.

Dier screened the back 4 and kept it simple, allowing ali n barkley to play with freedom and express themselves.

I think sterling started poor on the left, but when him n rooney swapped we looked better. #

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I shouldn't but I will you wrote........

If pogba started France woukd have won.

Now how do you know this?? To me it's a fabrication and complete guesswork. No evidence or anything to back this up.

In reality he played 45 mins. During that time England won 1-0. Now to suggest France would win the other 45 2-0 or better to me seems like bollocks. I remember them having 1 shot at butland in this time. Pogba set this up. Pogba put 1 over the bar and we missed chances also. If somebody wants to suggest my countries football team wouldn't have won a game that they comfortably did, on a English football forum then personally I think I'm allowed an opinion on that and my opinion was that it was a load of bollocks. If you are offended by this then I think you have issues. Everyone talks bollocks it's hardly a shock. No doubt you think this is a load of bollocks but I certainly wouldn't get upset about it.

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He's allowed an opinion as well and the word 'fabrication' means that someone is making something up, an untruth, a lie basically.

He's not lying is he? It's completely subjective. If Pogba started you can't say they definitely would have or definitely wouldn't have won. I certainly think he was very good I'm looking forward to watching him in the summer.


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all aboard the outrage bus.

I shouldn't but I will you wrote........

If pogba started France woukd have won.

Now how do you know this?? To me it's a fabrication and complete guesswork. No evidence or anything to back this up.

In reality he played 45 mins. During that time England won 1-0. Now to suggest France would win the other 45 2-0 or better to me seems like bollocks. I remember them having 1 shot at butland in this time. Pogba set this up. Pogba put 1 over the bar and we missed chances also. If somebody wants to suggest my countries football team wouldn't have won a game that they comfortably did, on a English football forum then personally I think I'm allowed an opinion on that and my opinion was that it was a load of bollocks. If you are offended by this then I think you have issues. Everyone talks bollocks it's hardly a shock. No doubt you think this is a load of bollocks but I certainly wouldn't get upset about it.

Enjoy the rest of your day mr Toulouse


He's allowed an opinion as well and the word 'fabrication' means that someone is making something up, an untruth, a lie basically.

He's not lying is he? It's completely subjective. If Pogba started you can't say they definitely would have or definitely wouldn't have won. I certainly think he was very good I'm looking forward to watching him in the summer.


Haha Iv been waiting for this. You never fail to disappoint.


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Waiting for what?

I'd actually side with you on this I don't think it would have changed with the result even though I thought he looked a hell of a player. As you say we won the half he was on.


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Ritchies birthmark wrote:
all aboard the outrage bus.

If somebody wants to suggest my countries football team wouldn't have won a game that they comfortably did, on a English football forum then personally I think I'm allowed an opinion on that and my opinion was that it was a load of bollocks. If you are offended by this then I think you have issues.



Looking at this response to somebody saying that Pogba is a good footballer and a game might have finished differently if he'd played from the start makes me think I'm not the one with issues.

Truly bizarre that you think the nationality of the forum makes a difference to whether somebody's opinion is bollocks or not. Do you think it is somehow un-English to suggest that different line-ups and circumstances might have lead to a different result. In your mind is it unpatriotic to think that if Pogba had played from the start the first half, and consequently the second half, might have panned out differently?

Best of all is your belief that any of this has anything to do with an outrage bus. It isn't political correctness to ask why you think something is bollocks is it? Who are suggesting is outraged? Is there a widespread anti-Birthmark movement being organised by Jeremy Corbyn and a host of gay muslims? Or is it the trans-gender Trotskyists who only like foreign players with iffy haircuts?


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all aboard the outrage bus.

If somebody wants to suggest my countries football team wouldn't have won a game that they comfortably did, on a English football forum then personally I think I'm allowed an opinion on that and my opinion was that it was a load of bollocks. If you are offended by this then I think you have issues.



Looking at this response to somebody saying that Pogba is a good footballer and a game might have finished differently if he'd played from the start makes me think I'm not the one with issues.

Truly bizarre that you think the nationality of the forum makes a difference to whether somebody's opinion is bollocks or not. Do you think it is somehow un-English to suggest that different line-ups and circumstances might have lead to a different result. In your mind is it unpatriotic to think that if Pogba had played from the start the first half, and consequently the second half, might have panned out differently?

Best of all is your belief that any of this has anything to do with an outrage bus. It isn't political correctness to ask why you think something is bollocks is it? Who are suggesting is outraged? Is there a widespread anti-Birthmark movement being organised by Jeremy Corbyn and a host of gay muslims? Or is it the trans-gender Trotskyists who only like foreign players with iffy haircuts?


Another load of utter bollocks. Your playing better than the French team did last night


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Another load of utter bollocks. Your playing better than the French team did last night


Another fluent and persuasive argument. I give in, you're right. It was unpatriotic of me to rate Pogba so highly when English footballers playing in your England teams and being assessed by you on English forums have demonstrated their superiority in tournament after tournament. I don't know why I thought it was OK to have my own opinion when you already had the correct English opinion.


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All ifs n buts are irrelevant, it finished 2-0 and deservedly so. Both teams weakened and one probably, understandably not at their best. It was a friendly and if nothing else proved losing to Spain could have been the best result in he long term because there were vast improvements in all areas. Having an unbeaten qualification stage breeds complacency and being brought back down to earth could not have been better timed.


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how was the england team weakened? sctatchinghead

I can only think of Jack Wilshire and tHEO wALCOTT.

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how was the england team weakened? sctatchinghead

I can only think of Jack Wilshire and tHEO wALCOTT.

In that case you've answered your own question.

England didn't have a striker on the bench also. I'd agree with you that the team last night seemed to work really well but fact is that wouldn't have been Roy's first choice. Maybe weakened is the wrong word, both teams were missing regular starters.


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But the point is englands regular starters makes them worse.

Not sure either player I named above would get in. But would strenghten bench.

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Concurring with dibble n crab. If Roy reverts back to type and puts Milner back in I'll be fuming n sack the euros off


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