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 Post subject: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:10 pm 
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Hello all

Tranmere fan here,

Reading the comments/ forum about Ronnie it sounds exactly how it was with us,

Brilliant at the start of his last spell, played good football and was a breath of fresh air, then he signed a new long term deal and it all collapsed, averaged less than a point a game and sunk like a stone, happened at other clubs with him as well

Not sure if he gets complacent, loses his drive or just reverts to type over time but when it starts to go wrong he is very stubborn and I worry about him getting you out of your slump now

All the best for the season, it looks like it could be a long you for you


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:11 pm 
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He does seem rather stubborn in terms of team selection and substitutions e.g refusing to make any at all.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 11:27 pm 
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Something I posted a long long time ago

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Do you know what, I thought Carroll was alright first half yesterday. He signed a winger on loan but was playing a left back on the wing. I suppose what we lack is left footed players and that's why he started Carroll.

I also thought Featherstone was far worse than Walker, he bottled a 70:30 tackle in his favour and they broke away and nearly scored about ten minutes before half time and Moore went mad with him. We were saying at half time surely he'll get hooked, maybe it was a section of the crowd towards Walker who is being properly singled out by the nuggets now.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:03 am 
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Our midfield is that poor, and this is a sad slur on it that Bates should be playing. At least he tackles and gets stuck in which is offering something, others are offering nothing. He could have had a competition with Walton as well to see who looked like they had the best all inclusive holidays over the summer and did the least running.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 12:42 am 
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At the start of the season when Ronnie Moore said he thought Pools could finish second I didn't realise he meant in every game.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 8:27 am 
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trfc2014 wrote:
Hello all

Tranmere fan here,

Reading the comments/ forum about Ronnie it sounds exactly how it was with us,

Brilliant at the start of his last spell, played good football and was a breath of fresh air, then he signed a new long term deal and it all collapsed, averaged less than a point a game and sunk like a stone, happened at other clubs with him as well

Not sure if he gets complacent, loses his drive or just reverts to type over time but when it starts to go wrong he is very stubborn and I worry about him getting you out of your slump now

All the best for the season, it looks like it could be a long you for you


He seems have a good nack of joining a club n giving them an old school kick up the Arse. Long term tho when things like tactics are involved I think he falls short.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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He must be getting Dementia do keep picking Featherweight.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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I Alzimers meant!


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Bougainville wrote:
At the start of the season when Ronnie Moore said he thought Pools could finish second I didn't realise he meant in every game.

haha that was funny :-D

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Our midfield wasn't good enough last season so he signed Tish, this season its the same few players there but this season he deemed them good enough.

What confused me Saturday was what he did when we were down to 10 men. At the end we had a target man in Centre mid, a midfielder at right back, a right back at centre back and then a centre back up front. For the difference it offered he could have just left everyone in position.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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HonestPoolie wrote:
Our midfield wasn't good enough last season so he signed Tish, this season its the same few players there but this season he deemed them good enough.

What confused me Saturday was what he did when we were down to 10 men. At the end we had a target man in Centre mid, a midfielder at right back, a right back at centre back and then a centre back up front. For the difference it offered he could have just left everyone in position.



Being honest we started with a left back on left wing, a striker on right wing and a centre back at left back and a fairy in centre midfield.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Tree_With_Hamster wrote:
HonestPoolie wrote:
Our midfield wasn't good enough last season so he signed Tish, this season its the same few players there but this season he deemed them good enough.

What confused me Saturday was what he did when we were down to 10 men. At the end we had a target man in Centre mid, a midfielder at right back, a right back at centre back and then a centre back up front. For the difference it offered he could have just left everyone in position.



Being honest we started with a left back on left wing, a striker on right wing and a centre back at left back and a fairy in centre midfield.


True, I forgot about Oates out wide and a right back finishing at left back as well


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Interesting thread started by the Tranmere fan. Tranmere were 19th in League One on February 14th 2014 when Ronnie Moore got suspended as manager for the gambling thing. Where were they 14 months later? Relegated from the Football League in 24th place.

As for the dip in form "happening at other clubs as well" - true enough, but everything is relative. Rotherham were 6th (from the top) when he got the boot there in 2011 for not getting them to promoted for the second successive season (beaten 3-2 in the play off final at Wembley the year before). Oh for a bit of 'failure' like that again at Pools!

Saturday was dire and I walked out straight after the second goal - hacked off about the sending off more than anything because it finished the game as a contest (that Pools were still just about in till then).

Moore is struggling at the minute, no question - we probably have a decent first 11 if they were all available at the same time but they aren't and it's embarrassing how little confidence he has in the squad players - what was the point of giving them contracts if they're not judged worth a game even in an emergency? Just how ineffective does Featherstone have to be to get subbed during a game, let alone dropped?

Now that Ronnie has finally recognised that a decent central midfielder is the number one priority I expect him to use his contacts to get one in - then he can go back to worrying about the defence!


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Its just like using sticking plasters on a disaster


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Maybe we should try teh formation he played in the full pre-season? 5-3-2 was it? and actually put people in position?

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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it was worse than this in pre season friendlies though, but friendlies don't count i forgot


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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History is literally repeating itself.

Ronnie in the Mail saying we need a new midfielder. Well fuck me Sherlock, and i'm sure by kick off on saturday we'll be all disappointed to see a midfield of Woods and Featherstone with Carroll on the left, and by full time bleeting on about how shit we are after another defeat.

Paynter will score a consolation goal and still be lambasted on here and elsewhere no doubt.

I'll go one further and say we'll have no Harrison as the club will once again decide against lodging an appeal.

It's like deja vu all over again ain it

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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And bugger all money will be stumped up to buy anyone half-decent, or pay a competitive wage. It's like IOR are still owners.

Still fancy a flukey win at Wimbledon like.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Still.

We've got to look forward to seeing the club unite as we hurtle toward another relegation battle.

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Forget the 8 point buffer between Pools and the two at the bottom.

Pools are in another relegation battle!


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Forget the 8 point buffer between Pools and the two at the bottom.

Pools are in another relegation battle!

I'll contact the Football League and get them to wipe it immediately

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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Before he signed his new contract he said he was going to keep us up then get us promoted.
Now his ambitions are as same as the owners.
He also got his son on the pay roll so hes hardly going to rock the boat about trying to improve the squad.

We going nowhere fast.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Malcolm Dawes Knew My Father wrote:
Interesting thread started by the Tranmere fan. Tranmere were 19th in League One on February 14th 2014 when Ronnie Moore got suspended as manager for the gambling thing. Where were they 14 months later? Relegated from the Football League in 24th place.

As for the dip in form "happening at other clubs as well" - true enough, but everything is relative. Rotherham were 6th (from the top) when he got the boot there in 2011 for not getting them to promoted for the second successive season (beaten 3-2 in the play off final at Wembley the year before). Oh for a bit of 'failure' like that again at Pools!

Saturday was dire and I walked out straight after the second goal - hacked off about the sending off more than anything because it finished the game as a contest (that Pools were still just about in till then).

Moore is struggling at the minute, no question - we probably have a decent first 11 if they were all available at the same time but they aren't and it's embarrassing how little confidence he has in the squad players - what was the point of giving them contracts if they're not judged worth a game even in an emergency? Just how ineffective does Featherstone have to be to get subbed during a game, let alone dropped?

Now that Ronnie has finally recognised that a decent central midfielder is the number one priority I expect him to use his contacts to get one in - then he can go back to worrying about the defence!


Yes we were 19th when he left but when he came to us he saved us then took us to 1st and clear up until Jan the following season and then he signed a contract and we hit relegation form and a 12 month period where we averaged less than a point a game and a home win rate of less than 25% dropped to mid table then relegation form the season after

Last season was a disaster but Ronnie has a big part in our relegation from League One


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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1st and clear up until January and your moaning lol. We would be happy if we could be 15th that's how bad it is. Seriously though Ronnie has disappointed this year but the blame lies with the untouchables in the club before Ronnie. I bet his budget was 3 times bigger at Tranmere than what it is here.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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The same budget that made Neale Cooper look shit 2nd time round and all the other managers from the last six years.


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 Post subject: Re: Ronnie - It's like history repeating itself
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Apart from a certain john Hughes who somehow managed to get wins with the worst team ever. Even in relegation we played one of the best Brentford sides in years and looked decent getting a last day draw. Now Brentford reserves could roll up and look like ac Milan against us. Shame Hughes asked to be able to restructure the team he might of done a job.


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